kismat ka dosh...

Good Morning/ Evening Ladies,

After a turbulent evening where the episode was not updating we all finally watched and i sure rewatched the episode.

So lets begin..

The episode directly dives into vitriol of Anu towards Mithi and people from different class.. i really dont want to repeat her language here.. it just give you window into her thinking.. she is a narcissistic coward who will not think even once before hurting others..

mithi was graceful and classy between the two.. She even acknowledge the pain they share is same.. both been cheated on.. both left hanging without any explanation.. none of them ever had any closure for 20 years.. but how they let them shape it its completely different story. Fierce defence of Mithi for imlie was also something had my heart.. how much they love and protect one another.. they only had one another for longest time and the bond they share is so beautiful..

Mithi left her self respect for Imlie.. fell down in Anu's feet and begged for not letting truth out.. I hated that scene.. it was gut wrenching to see a mom who will go miles before harm will come to her child.. the difference between two women is the love they have for their children.. Anu's love where she confuses her self obsession with love for for malini and Mithi's love which will go above n beyond to protect imlie as she has endured enough for 1000 lifetimes... a blind man can differentiate between these

Aditya and imlie enter the scene where Anu is still be her worst self. Imlies staunch defence of Mithi was good.. but then the truth comes out and the switch flips in Imlie.. her world actually comes crashing down. i am going to go little further and say hope died inside her. She had said for mithi that she has false wit in her destiny.. same was true for immlie.. but when ur wit ends it might not be what you imagined it to be..

I felt i wanted more energy from Aditya in Imlie's defence it was good but i wanted more.. (That's just me.. you are free to disagree) he also took out of Air from Anu's threats when he was all ready to to go to trapathi's and explain everything. The false class reasoning helped and Anu just decided to move out..

I am just disapoointed with Dev. He enever looked at mithi after leaving PD. He never gave closure to AC. He couldnt muster courage to accept his daughter.. he ruined more lives than imaginable. If class, society was so important why would you lie to women who were innocent till that nexus point. His self loathing needs to be 1000 times more and he doent get redemption.. he doesnt deserve redemption. He is a worm and nothing more nothing less

I will come to my fav scene of the evening.. Rain scene..

Imlie fell in kichad.. thats the lowest she is ever gonna be.. this is her identity which she craved but never had.. there is nothing worst thats gonna happen to her in her life.. she is a fighters.. she will rise and shine brighter than ever... Mitti tilak banegi.. maathe pe sajegi..

Her breakdown is justified and i the dream she had i interpreted it in different way.. last time she felt T's anger it was from didi's perspective.. ruining malini's life.. but this time she felt was from loosing Aditya... it felt she is loosing her home... her center of the world.. her soul mate.. that breakdown was for her and Aditya both.. again my opinion.. ready to listen to other perspectives..

I am gonna ignore Kunmun completely.. only 2 things i found ammusing .. kunals outburst at malini (well justified) and malini's mention of Aditya loving someone else(I think she is just being honest there.. he loves imlie and thats the first thing he told malini... she even asked him if you wouldc ontinue social marriage and he refused.. so she not mentioning Aditya's marriage doesnt affect me)

A dhamakedaar episode.. ST you are a star born to rise n shine.. you will go places.. load of love and prayers for your future..

tagging few more..

Originally posted by: _Seera_

Good Morning/ Evening Ladies,

After a turbulent evening where the episode was not updating we all finally watched and i sure rewatched the episode.

So lets begin..

The episode directly dives into vitriol of Anu towards Mithi and people from different class.. i really dont want to repeat her language here.. it just give you window into her thinking.. she is a narcissistic coward who will not think even once before hurting others..

mithi was graceful and classy between the two.. She even acknowledge the pain they share is same.. both been cheated on.. both left hanging without any explanation.. none of them ever had any closure for 20 years.. but how they let them shape it its completely different story. Fierce defence of Mithi for imlie was also something had my heart.. how much they love and protect one another.. they only had one another for longest time and the bond they share is so beautiful..

Mithi left her self respect for Imlie.. fell down in Anu's feet and begged for not letting truth out.. I hated that scene.. it was gut wrenching to see a mom who will go miles before harm will come to her child.. the difference between two women is the love they have for their children.. Anu's love where she confuses her self obsession with love for for malini and Mithi's love which will go above n beyond to protect imlie as she has endured enough for 1000 lifetimes... a blind man can differentiate between these

Aditya and imlie enter the scene where Anu is still be her worst self. Imlies staunch defence of Mithi was good.. but then the truth comes out and the switch flips in Imlie.. her world actually comes crashing down. i am going to go little further and say hope died inside her. She had said for mithi that she has false wit in her destiny.. same was true for immlie.. but when ur wit ends it might not be what you imagined it to be..

I felt i wanted more energy from Aditya in Imlie's defence it was good but i wanted more.. (That's just me.. you are free to disagree) he also took out of Air from Anu's threats when he was all ready to to go to trapathi's and explain everything. The false class reasoning helped and Anu just decided to move out..

I am just disapoointed with Dev. He enever looked at mithi after leaving PD. He never gave closure to AC. He couldnt muster courage to accept his daughter.. he ruined more lives than imaginable. If class, society was so important why would you lie to women who were innocent till that nexus point. His self loathing needs to be 1000 times more and he doent get redemption.. he doesnt deserve redemption. He is a worm and nothing more nothing less

I will come to my fav scene of the evening.. Rain scene..

Imlie fell in kichad.. thats the lowest she is ever gonna be.. this is her identity which she craved but never had.. there is nothing worst thats gonna happen to her in her life.. she is a fighters.. she will rise and shine brighter than ever... Mitti tilak banegi.. maathe pe sajegi..

Her breakdown is justified and i the dream she had i interpreted it in different way.. last time she felt T's anger it was from didi's perspective.. ruining malini's life.. but this time she felt was from loosing Aditya... it felt she is loosing her home... her center of the world.. her soul mate.. that breakdown was for her and Aditya both.. again my opinion.. ready to listen to other perspectives..

I am gonna ignore Kunmun completely.. only 2 things i found ammusing .. kunals outburst at malini (well justified) and malini's mention of Aditya loving someone else(I think she is just being honest there.. he loves imlie and thats the first thing he told malini... she even asked him if you wouldc ontinue social marriage and he refused.. so she not mentioning Aditya's marriage doesnt affect me)

A dhamakedaar episode.. ST you are a star born to rise n shine.. you will go places.. load of love and prayers for your future..

I completely agree with your analysis just that when Imlie got these visions of being blamed for being involved with Adi .. I did not understand Malani’s blame bcoz irrespective Imlie is her sis or not .. Malini is not Adi’s love.

DC’s blame should not matter was she considering to take him as her father so his blame mattered ?

I can understand Apu’s blame but everyone knows that her father left them so Dev being her father how does she gets blamed …

I understand she is 19 yr old and her insecurities basically just spelling out my reasoning

The Precap put me at peace but hope it is for Sat episode as I seriously want a conversation between Adi and Imlie …

I hope the markers don’t give other couples more screen space …

btw saw that TRP dropped.

Reposting my thought from AY's thread:

Thank you for the thread AY. Was waiting for your thoughts and thought the entire Hotstar issue must have also played into the delay.

Like Adi and Aparna are same same, Imeliya and her Amma are also same same. But ST and KK elevated the material to the point that you could truly feel that bebasi at being in a situation going so much out of control that you do not know where to start.

I loved how despite not being wrong, Meethi listed to all the taunts given to her because it was Dev's wife and somewhere she was almost resigned like I have listened to much worse the last 19 years. It was also heartening to see her even almost empathize towards AC that both have been betrayed and she never knew he was married till very recently. While AC ke pale woh baat kabhi padti nahi, but somewhere Meethi could understand AC's keen sense of pain and kept quiet till she came to her daughter. One line about Jyoti Gauba as well. She really evoked that sense of wanting to throttle someone with the vile she was spewing. Kudos to both to make us really hate AC's character.

Jaise beti ne tab react kiya tha, aaj maa ne bhi waise hi react kiya. She went all territorial and put her point very succinctly that I agree what I may have done was a mistake, my daughter is no paap and neither a mistake. Dono tab tak seh sakte hai as long as the other is not dragged into the conversation, jo aaj hua. When AC targeted Meethi by threatening her to tell the T family the truth, she was willing to literally grovel to save her daughter. Seeing that brought such a visceral reaction in Imlie that she showed her fierce PD style tigress ka andaaz. Matlab alag level ka tashan was shown to AC to protect her Amma from AC.

Here I actually felt a parallel of this scene to the sindoor wala scene where Malini humiliated Imlie and bechari she was on her knees trying to sameto her sindoor when Adi walks in. The way he went at Malini then and the way Imlie stood up to AC for her Amma today, they both literally mirrored each other.

Then when AC revealed DC's name, the utter shock, confusion running through Imlie's face. The way she just turned a bit to confirm with her mom that what she was hearing was correct and then the myriad of emotions on her face. Disbelief, shock, anger and finally just numbness. She really went numb while watching what was going on around her while processing the revelation just thrown at her.

Loved the way Adi pulled AC down a peg today. AC chose the wrong person to chedo with threatening bto tell the truth. he does not know that one he already knew and has processed through this and more importantly he is the least bothered about this truth as it never mattered to him. How easily he called her out by saying that the truth reveal will hurt her reputation more than Imlie, him or his entire familysmiley36. The utter shock on AC's face was gold. Adi is made of sterner stuff and someone like AC will not be able to blackmail him about the truth, that too something he feels has no affect in his life in anyway. Matlab yeh banda Jainendra se nahi dara jab 2 biwia ka sach bahar aane wala tha, yeh AC ke aise piddhu se sach bahar aane se thodi darne wala hai.

At that point DC tried to show misplaced concern and go all "I am your baba" and that finally broke Imlie out of her trance. She just ran away from there to make sense of what she just saw. And the way she broke 👏🤗. I really wanted to just go into my screen and give that girl a tight hug. She literally just collapsed into her mitti wali maa to gather her thoughts on what just happened with her. Then the way all those insecurities that she had to an extent overcome or pushed to the back of her mind just came tumbling out. There also those insecurities were voiced by the 3 people whose opinion mattered to her (Dev just being her biological dad and actually spawning her) and could change because of the truth. Loved that she never once doubted Adi's feelings for her in the entire process. She knew in her heart that Dev being her father will not matter to Adi in anyway.

I am really glad that at this point it was no one else except Adi and Imlie. No one else mattered because then he was the only one who could reach out and understand what her guilt and insecurities were. And he correctly started with addressing that only. People assumed that Adi will not tell her he knew. I was ure that would never happen because he cannot hide anything from his Jhalli. No matter the consequence, he will always be honest with her because she has always known his whole truth and accepted him the way he is and he does the same for her as well. It was good to see how he was explaining to her how he found out and I am somewhat glad they stopped at that, because any more and they would have had to either cut the scene at a further junction else not have it fully play out, which would have been worse.

By the remaining part of the episode, looks like there will be parallel conversations tomorrow. Today I am just going to revel in the way ST proved that she deserves to headline her own show and will continue to do so till the end, naysayers jaaye bhaad mein.

Originally posted by: Dreamer007

I completely agree with your analysis just that when Imlie got these visions of being blamed for being involved with Adi .. I did not understand Malani’s blame bcoz irrespective Imlie is her sis or not .. Malini is not Adi’s love.

DC’s blame should not matter was she considering to take him as her father so his blame mattered ?

I can understand Apu’s blame but everyone knows that her father left them so Dev being her father how does she gets blamed …

I understand she is 19 yr old and her insecurities basically just spelling out my reasoning

The Precap put me at peace but hope it is for Sat episode as I seriously want a conversation between Adi and Imlie …

I hope the markers don’t give other couples more screen space …

btw saw that TRP dropped.

+bold 1 - We know that she is not Adi's love, but at some point for Imlie, she was. All that Moon jaap played into her insecurities, which was voiced by Malini today.

+bold 2 - Dev was just spouting what she has heard from people about why her father left her. It was society talking in Dev's voice

+bold 3 - Apu's blame is more on hr being unfit for Adi being illegitimate along with Dev's progeny, jiska ek example already T family bhugat chuki hai. Jokes aside, again it was just playing with her mind that Aparna will again think she is not worthy of Adi because of all this (why do not ask, her insecurities sometimes baffle me as well)

Have given a detailed explanation of that, but in short - Last to last week we got 3 epis of Adilie, last week we got only 1.5 epis worth of Adilie scenes. So TRP dropped. Also all TRP ladies must have echoed our feeling seeing the "gehri dosti speil" & didi waapsi program setup by Adi & Imlie, hence the drop as well.

Originally posted by: Dreamer007

I completely agree with your analysis just that when Imlie got these visions of being blamed for being involved with Adi .. I did not understand Malani’s blame bcoz irrespective Imlie is her sis or not .. Malini is not Adi’s love.

DC’s blame should not matter was she considering to take him as her father so his blame mattered ?

I can understand Apu’s blame but everyone knows that her father left them so Dev being her father how does she gets blamed …

I understand she is 19 yr old and her insecurities basically just spelling out my reasoning

The Precap put me at peace but hope it is for Sat episode as I seriously want a conversation between Adi and Imlie …

I hope the markers don’t give other couples more screen space …

btw saw that TRP dropped.

I have a different take on it.. Her insecurities were not about herself.. it felt more like she is being blamed for Aditya's behaviour.. it also felt like she is scred that after all this she will loose him.. thats something she is not ready for.. her only priority is Aditya.. when her reltiohship with him is revealed wwith the this dev truth she will be morally forced to let him go.. and she cant.. ever...

Thats the breakdown was... i mean i felt it that way.. also a 19 year dealing with mariyad of problems all alone is unimaginable thing.. she is brave but every damn has its breaking point this was her's ..

Pre-cap is awesome.. but whats your thought why Anu is there? or is imlie at C house?

TRP drop - test match.. we had good content last wek and we still number 3 so i am happy..

Originally posted by: Dreamer007

I completely agree with your analysis just that when Imlie got these visions of being blamed for being involved with Adi .. I did not understand Malani’s blame bcoz irrespective Imlie is her sis or not .. Malini is not Adi’s love.

DC’s blame should not matter was she considering to take him as her father so his blame mattered ?

I can understand Apu’s blame but everyone knows that her father left them so Dev being her father how does she gets blamed …

I understand she is 19 yr old and her insecurities basically just spelling out my reasoning

The Precap put me at peace but hope it is for Sat episode as I seriously want a conversation between Adi and Imlie …

I hope the markers don’t give other couples more screen space …

btw saw that TRP dropped.

This is what i was thinking too. The entire t family including apu knows her father left her and her mom. They have never judged her adversely for it. Maybe they dont know the illegitimate part of it since imlie herself was unclear on that minor detail, even tho nakli nani keeps repeating the bin byaahi maa jaap. So that part of her dream was probably her imagining apu deriding her out of the fear of losing adi , the love of her life. Par dev aur malini ka deriding dikhaane ki kya zaroorat thi? Malini now knows the truth of the first marriage right. That she always refuses to see and accept facts is a different story. Dev ka dikhaane ka tho justification hi nahi tha.

Pucha nahi kisi ne but my perspective I will chepo😆

Bas sirf Malini ka😎

Since Imaliya doesn't know that Malini knows this half sister truth as such her thought of Malini uttering those dialogues come from the fear that she may think this way once half sister truth comes out in front of her that Imaliya did this with an intention of venegnance.😭

Thanks _seera_ for opening a thread for quite a deserving episode! I think today will be even better!

Mera kal ka take after the most frustrating night of trying to get to Hatooostar!

*****************************************************

The episode truly belongs to Sumbul today. Her stance when she just listened and the overflow of emotions when she finally broke down. What a refined young actress! Kudos and only more power to her...So true to her character, Imlie is now in a fear to lose her loved ones, she has questions on how this is her mistake and also painfully reassuring herself that it is not...such a plethora of emotions the poor girl has at this point..Sumbul just aced it all! Sheer brilliance!

Loved how Adi gave Anu her own medicine...ladies first towards the downfall of her own status!

DC less said the better...because no it was not about him at all today...so Hatttoo!

I do have my usual qualm..why does every emotional moment for Adi and Imlie ends so abrupt with Malini's narrative! This was Imlie's biggest truth..and the way they switched the scenes was just plain inapropos! Malini can have a her own story...but why does it always intersect on a high Adi and Imlie moment..freaking unbelievable the makers are! I am hoping to see a continuity in Adi and Imlie's scene tomorrow...too much to ask from these makers...but umeed pe kal ka episode kayam hai!

Baki aaj Hotstar ko sabse bada wala Hatttooo!!

**********************************************************

- It has become a drill now for Adi and Imlie scene

First watch: Get excited there is a scene between Adi and Imlie

Second watch: Gash looks so good..oh wait..his hair is too long..but wait gash looks so good. Sumbul is so good in this scene..they are so perfect as Adi and Imlie. Sigh!

Third watch: Dialogues and their entire demeanor, their expressions and then be in awe of what talented pair and team work looks like

Fourth watch: The lighting, the setting, the BG music, other nuances like how he comes and puts the jacket on her for this particular episode. How Imlie first slips and falls but then gets back again to sit down..

Fifth watch: Mostly strictly for this scene- the scenes that are an extension of her mind in this scene were quite random! She knows Devil wants to give her his name..but in her though process he was rejecting her?! Kisne likha hai yeh? I guess the entire sequence was more towards the fear of her losing Adi and her other loved ones i.e T;s and Malini didi! But screenplay walon ne kuch toh bhi jugaad kar diya wahan..

But in short the above has become my drill for every few minutes scene that we get for Adi and Imlie...!!

😆

Some rather mediocre things also get elevated with them!

Vaise T's kaunsi samadhi laga ke baithe the jo inko kuch pata nahi chalta ki ghar mein kya ho raha hai!! Hadh man! Vaise toh herd main ghumte rehte hain...😆

Another thing that I really hoped was that SK should have witnessed this. All the key people of that truth were there, why not SK and his tamancha?! 😔

Forgot tagging _seera_

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

Reposting my thought from AY's thread:

Thank you for the thread AY. Was waiting for your thoughts and thought the entire Hotstar issue must have also played into the delay.

Like Adi and Aparna are same same, Imeliya and her Amma are also same same. But ST and KK elevated the material to the point that you could truly feel that bebasi at being in a situation going so much out of control that you do not know where to start.

I loved how despite not being wrong, Meethi listed to all the taunts given to her because it was Dev's wife and somewhere she was almost resigned like I have listened to much worse the last 19 years. It was also heartening to see her even almost empathize towards AC that both have been betrayed and she never knew he was married till very recently. While AC ke pale woh baat kabhi padti nahi, but somewhere Meethi could understand AC's keen sense of pain and kept quiet till she came to her daughter. One line about Jyoti Gauba as well. She really evoked that sense of wanting to throttle someone with the vile she was spewing. Kudos to both to make us really hate AC's character.

Jaise beti ne tab react kiya tha, aaj maa ne bhi waise hi react kiya. She went all territorial and put her point very succinctly that I agree what I may have done was a mistake, my daughter is no paap and neither a mistake. Dono tab tak seh sakte hai as long as the other is not dragged into the conversation, jo aaj hua. When AC targeted Meethi by threatening her to tell the T family the truth, she was willing to literally grovel to save her daughter. Seeing that brought such a visceral reaction in Imlie that she showed her fierce PD style tigress ka andaaz. Matlab alag level ka tashan was shown to AC to protect her Amma from AC.

Here I actually felt a parallel of this scene to the sindoor wala scene where Malini humiliated Imlie and bechari she was on her knees trying to sameto her sindoor when Adi walks in. The way he went at Malini then and the way Imlie stood up to AC for her Amma today, they both literally mirrored each other.

Then when AC revealed DC's name, the utter shock, confusion running through Imlie's face. The way she just turned a bit to confirm with her mom that what she was hearing was correct and then the myriad of emotions on her face. Disbelief, shock, anger and finally just numbness. She really went numb while watching what was going on around her while processing the revelation just thrown at her.

Loved the way Adi pulled AC down a peg today. AC chose the wrong person to chedo with threatening bto tell the truth. he does not know that one he already knew and has processed through this and more importantly he is the least bothered about this truth as it never mattered to him. How easily he called her out by saying that the truth reveal will hurt her reputation more than Imlie, him or his entire familysmiley36. The utter shock on AC's face was gold. Adi is made of sterner stuff and someone like AC will not be able to blackmail him about the truth, that too something he feels has no affect in his life in anyway. Matlab yeh banda Jainendra se nahi dara jab 2 biwia ka sach bahar aane wala tha, yeh AC ke aise piddhu se sach bahar aane se thodi darne wala hai.

At that point DC tried to show misplaced concern and go all "I am your baba" and that finally broke Imlie out of her trance. She just ran away from there to make sense of what she just saw. And the way she broke 👏🤗. I really wanted to just go into my screen and give that girl a tight hug. She literally just collapsed into her mitti wali maa to gather her thoughts on what just happened with her. Then the way all those insecurities that she had to an extent overcome or pushed to the back of her mind just came tumbling out. There also those insecurities were voiced by the 3 people whose opinion mattered to her (Dev just being her biological dad and actually spawning her) and could change because of the truth. Loved that she never once doubted Adi's feelings for her in the entire process. She knew in her heart that Dev being her father will not matter to Adi in anyway.

I am really glad that at this point it was no one else except Adi and Imlie. No one else mattered because then he was the only one who could reach out and understand what her guilt and insecurities were. And he correctly started with addressing that only. People assumed that Adi will not tell her he knew. I was ure that would never happen because he cannot hide anything from his Jhalli. No matter the consequence, he will always be honest with her because she has always known his whole truth and accepted him the way he is and he does the same for her as well. It was good to see how he was explaining to her how he found out and I am somewhat glad they stopped at that, because any more and they would have had to either cut the scene at a further junction else not have it fully play out, which would have been worse.

By the remaining part of the episode, looks like there will be parallel conversations tomorrow. Today I am just going to revel in the way ST proved that she deserves to headline her own show and will continue to do so till the end, naysayers jaaye bhaad mein.

I am really hoping for some continuity with the rain scene today. Was really pissed with the didi track ghusaaoed in between for no reason. Imlies anger was pretty palpable when adi revealed he has known the truth since his visit pd. He is going to have to manao her, provide her emotional comfort and also give her hausla ki galthi dev ki hi hai aur imlie ko kisi ki naam ki jaroorat nahi hai apni pehchaan banane ke liye adi ki bhi nahin. Wo kaafi hai apne liye based on one of her earlier dialogues. Unless they get all weird and decide to separate because of some misguided notion that she is hurting her badi behen i am hopeful for the track ahead. Pehle dev ki jamke dhulai karni chahiye aaj. I hope she never forgives the man and never accepts him.