PS|EDT #35|The Curious Case of Shiva's Adbhut Plan and Missing Rishita - Page 18

Originally posted by: bhavna101

And he will remain secondary until he shows that he can become her number one priority.

Dude! Just think about it, on one side you have a woman, a mother who has raised you like her own, loved you, and cared for you. She is evil towards others but for you, she cares. And on the other side, you have the husband, who treats you harshly, is rude to you almost all the time, pushes you to the wall, holds you aggressively, manhandles you, and then uses you like a freaking bargaining chip. Who will you choose?

Whom will anybody else choose?

It doesn't matter who is evil and who is good. It is human nature to deviate towards the person who loves you. Maami doesn't love her more than her greed, I can see that. But she still cares for her more than Shiva does, and she actually shows it. Maami shows that she loves and cares for her but Shiva shows his anger. He makes her think that they can have a nice future only to crash all her hopes the next instant.

It is obvious that for Raavi, Maami comes first and Shiva is secondary.

I dont agree to this. She havent behaved in anyway to show who is primary or secondary to her. For now there is a delicate balance and she is keeping it. No action of hers indicate her giving priority. I like how she is holding both the sides equally straight.

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

According to me, shiva's and raavi's self respect are equally important. I do not want Raavi to go back to Shiva without an apology and regret from his side, because he hurt her self respect. In the same way I don't want Shiva to do anything for maami because she's the ITV vamp who will never apologize or regret anything 😆

Which is why I want the makers to take a different approach here, but I know they'll just take the easy way out.. the new BTS shows some new Kangans on maami's wrist so I guess this is what happened 🤢😆

Same...I don't want Shiva's respect to go down either.for me both their self respect is important.😞

Originally posted by: Pixiepadhi

Yess...shiddat ki dor ❤️

I think shiva is the only one in their family who can stand up for what he believes in.the way he politely refused all of them, without an ounce of disrespect.that was commendable 👏. Though his stance was wrong today, but it gives me hope that in the future shiva will stand up for raavi if Need arises.

Even gombi hasn't reached there yet where he can go against his mother's command.dev ki to Baat hi mat karo.

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

According to me, shiva's and raavi's self respect are equally important. I do not want Raavi to go back to Shiva without an apology and regret from his side, because he hurt her self respect. In the same way I don't want Shiva to do anything for maami because she's the ITV vamp who will never apologize or regret anything 😆

Which is why I want the makers to take a different approach here, but I know they'll just take the easy way out.. the new BTS shows some new Kangans on maami's wrist so I guess this is what happened 🤢😆

Originally posted by: bhavna101

Piu, humans have this characteristic that the way you'll behave with me, I'll behave with you the same way. Which girl would be polite to a guy who is rude to her and mistreats her? So I can understand Raavi's behavior towards Shiva, but not Shiva's behavior towards Raavi.

You know why most of the time I do not comment on your analysis, it's because that your words show just one side of the picture. And pictures say a thousand different words, many different stories. And people are interested in one particular side which always ends up being in favor of Shiva one way or the other. And I have different views, sometimes it's just me who feels that way.

This journey, this change, this progression, we know this will happen, we know they will have a happy life because that's a fixed point in this story. It won't change. We know how this will end. But what if we didn't?

Will you still be able to be supportive towards a man who behaves like Shiva? This is ITV, no matter what will happen, Shiva and Raavi will be together and happy and in love in the future. We all know that. I wonder about what if we didn't.

No matter how much you all believe in this:

Is Raavi important to him? No. If she was she wouldn't be his bargaining chip.

Other than this, I agree with you on your other statement.

Bhavna, you aren't getting what I am trying to say. I believe there's no point in taking this further as I don't ever give a one-sided picture of anything.

I DON'T support Shiva. So, let's not go round and round in circles trying to make it about me showing a side which supports Shiva. I have voiced my opinions about systematic abuse many times about everyone, including Shiva too.

My analysis or anything else is not absolute nor do I think it's the grand truth of things.

So, I really don't expect you or anyone else, as a matter of fact, to agree with it.

Forget ITV; I wouldn't endorse any violence towards men or women.

I have hated Suman for her patriarchal approach too.

What are we even trying to prove here?

I DON'T SUPPORT SHIVA’S ABUSIVE BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS RAAVI! I don't think I can be clearer than this.

You are probably asking this the third time whereas I have answered your question in my previous post.

Rest, YKB 🤗

I won't post pictures that will paint one sided truth.

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

Prank play kiya usne 😆

ye to dhokha hua na apne saath....naughty gal😈

I don't even like to see her and song ka satyanash kiya😡

Originally posted by: Pixiepadhi

Same...I don't want Shiva's respect to go down either.for me both their self respect is important.😞

The makers never give us what we want, there is nothing we can do about it🤢 🤷

Originally posted by: Transference

What he did today was a pathetic repercussion of his anger and hidden pain for years. When in angst, you sometimes lose your mind.

Shiva had admitted that as a child in front of Suman.

He had said- Tu bina soche gusse mein kuch bhi kar jati hai, aur main gusse mein bina kuch soche kuch bhi bol deta hun.

Yes, he has his flaws.anger being one of them. the flaws, mistakes, make him human.

I am even ready to accept dhara's flaws, if she hadnt beat shish inhumanly like that with a danda and given a few slaps instead. Or at least apologised and regretted her deeds.

People make mistakes in anger, realise it, regret it, rise above it and move on.the category of good person and bad person is very blurred.it all depends on the intention and purity of the heart.

Originally posted by: Miss_SR

I agree. But if he does this it'll show his regret. And if Raavi's pain reduces even slightly then I'm okay with it. Trust me it's taken alot of convincing and thinking on my part to say this. Shiva might get a little happiness out of getting his mother's kangan back, he just has to swallow his pride a little for Raavi's sake. I hope we get a scene where they talk, he apologises, owns up to his mistake, and gives her his side too. I hope.

But it's about his self respect here, not pride. I would still not like Shiva doing anything for maami at all. I would want him to find another way of reducing her pain and showing her that he respects her. I have no hopes or expectations though

I would definitely want a scene where he has a heart to heart talk with her and apologizes though

Originally posted by: ValleyOfPeace

the thing is Suman holds Shiva a little more dearer than her sons. Even Gautam has been chided by her many times but Shiva haven’t

Yess, she is always soft with shiva. I would love to see their bond explored more❤️

We could see the pride in her eyes during the marriage track, that got her to respect shiva a little more.