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Posted: 4 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: meghumonu

That is what I am saying also!! The words are not just angry outburst but it came straight from his heart!! Pallavi has fully accepted her love for him and already consider him a part of her life and his family as her own family and jataos haq!! But for Raghav the love is there but he is still hesitant to express or accept his own feelings or let pallavi into his heart and accept her as a part of his own family!! He was always a guy with trust issues from the start and not to mention he was a loner for over a decade where he allowed no one in his heart or his personal space!! Now suddenly Pallavi who hated some months ago is not only his wife but he is feeling love for her also and he is letting his guard down!! His heart and brain is waging war against each other!! In his mind he still do not trust Pallavi completely and that is why he do not share everything with Pallavi or did not want Pallavi to interfere in his family matters.

Dear its simple as that pallavi is still not on his heart..

She is his friend

His alter ego

His buddy . But not a wife a lover or a companion..and it surely takes time and a trigger ..it felt so painful whn he asked her to stay away from family matter..but its fine at this stage. As he specify that he did all this to win his amma and sis for which he is craving for years..

As he got no time and no hardship so she has still no intense feelings for pallu no love no craving..

This angle is all set to justify mandar track ..

Ab ignition chahye .na car ko start kerne k lye .

Once he will realize what he feell or once he started feeling .

Don dulhanya lejayegaaaaa...❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Was I accidentally high or did Raghav really call sunny Keerti nibbi nibba ??

Also I was hurt when Raghav told Pallavi not to interfere in his family.

But this is proof of where Raghav stands meaning he considers her a friend and technically his wife but in his heart he has not given her the place of a spouse consciously.

Subconsciously maybe because he was upset when he thought she was leaving but he doesn’t accept her as his wife in a true sense and is going only by technicality.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

When he said he wanted Sunny to live with them, I laughed because it reminded me of the discussion we had in the forum about this topic. I think he wants to neutralize Sunny and let Keerti see for herself what kind of person he is. If he turns out to be genuine, fine, otherwise she can divorce him and move on. Frankly, I liked Raghav's open-minded and straightforward attitude about divorced. I will say though that why let a marriage happen when the potential for divorce is so high at the outset. That's just silly.

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What I feel is that Sunny is actually from a rich family, bigda hua, so that's why he talks to servants like that. The way he behaved with Naidu shows that he's used to being around servants and ordering them around. Something is messed up in his family or the entire back story is rubbish.

Quoting just parts for the sake of ease.

I liked the open mindedness about divorce too, but it's weird to speak of it as an equally likely outcome for the marriage. Like if a divorce seems like a 50/50 chance, I'd say hold off on the wedding prep. Might as well let them live together till they figure it out then 🤷🏻‍♀️The idea of an exploratory marriage is kind of funny. LOL, his Amma's condition has really screwed with his head about acceptable and unacceptable reasons to get married.

In the same scene though, there's been significant backlash for him saying he married Pallavi for Jaya. I think all that backlash has been unwarranted- that's just the objective truth. He shouldn't say it to Pallavi, but no matter why they're choosing to uphold the marriage, it doesn't change the past. He did marry her solely for Jaya's condition.

I really liked the Sunny/Naidu scene. Definitely, there's more to his background, because that attitude reeked of privilege. Also, it is consistent with his background- it's the typical rich Delhi boy, where the very next sentence from his mouth would be, "Tu jaanta hai mera baap kaun hai?"

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Posted: 4 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I also felt bad for Milind.. I wish for his own good, he stops pacifying Vijay.. With Pallavi gone and Sharda off to god knows where, he seems like a lost soul.. infact eversince Pallavi left, gloom is all I can sense in Deshmukh house.. happy to see Amrutha turn over a new leaf as someone who can tell right from wrong.. now I can say that she really is growing out of her Ayi's shadow after realizing that her scheming ways have only cost them their happiness.. ek gayi to dusri ayi.. Manasi aka chhota bindi

I said this earlier today.. the actor playing Sunny is doing a pretty good job .. he has a confident body language and a natural flair in his acting.. I also like his scenes with Shivangi and Sai.. the give and take is good...the way he switches his demeanor.. no wonder she felt that he is a two faced guy who pretends to be someone else infront of them.. the thing she said about how to judge a person's character is so true..

It was good to see Farhad get some screen time today.. though I would really for Raghav to be a lil cordial towards him.. sometimes I feel bad with the way Raghav treats him..I understand they have a boss-employee equation but Farhad has been more than an employee to him..always..I hope at some point in the story they show a track where Raghav verbally acknowledges Farhad's place in his life..

I know, I saw so many tweets today about Milind becoming negative...but like, kahaan? Him standing up against Vijay after all the shit that crazy old man has pulled is not negative at all. As long as he doesn't turn anti-Pallavi, I'm rooting for him.

@bold- true, without a doubt. She was keeping that household together at the cost of herself. With her not there, it's falling apart, and I am loving it.

Raghav's badtameezi with Farhad has been getting to me as well. Ek point tak endearing hai, and I'm sure Farhad knows how much Raghav loves him, but you sometimes really need to verbalize it. I think Raghav has only verbalized it while drunk, never sober?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

I like Keerti calling Pallavi out on not helping her as a friend and putting aside the SIL relationship. I am not saying Pallavi should agree with what Keerti wants to do but when we have differences of opinion with our friends we should be even more careful not to alienate them. This way Keerti won't confide in her at all. Ugh...

@bold- This has worked out so well for Sunny. She won't confide in Raghav because of the bribe, and any hopes of a Pallavi/Kirti patch up have been somewhat shredded by Pallavi's uncharacteristic lack of tact today. Sunny remains her one and only confidante now.

I'm dying to know Sunny's end game in all of this. Can't just be wanting to con money, there are plenty of rich people in the world less dangerous than Raghav Rao. I'm hoping he's targetted Kirti and Raghav specifically for a more interesting reason.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

I completely agree with what you've said in the post. Pallavi shouldn't let anyone take her for granted and if Raghav wants to set boundaries he can't flip flop about that either as per his convenience. He really needs to watch what he says because Pallavi's going to keep letting things go until one day a slip of his really hurts her feelings. He has to get better at this, at least with his wife.

Raghav's relationship with his family cannot continue this way. The whole Sunny fiasco is shaking this up for their good and when the dust settles Raghav will see things clearly. He can try his best to protect Keerti but at the end of the she will be the one to sign the death warrant on the brother-sister bond if she wants to. He will never willingly kick her out his life, he loves her too much but I think based on what we saw in the dining table scene, the pain on his face, his realization of how these things will go, it was pretty clear that he knew this was conditional that he knew his family has been unfair with him. The onus of proving himself should no longer lie with him. He should stop caring and live a little and I guess the upcoming Mandaar track will be when he truly introspects and focuses on himself, his own happiness for a change. He will never be able to cut himself off from his mother, sister, and eventually Pallavi, but perhaps he will stop working so hard for their affection and let them also put in effort at maintaining these relationships, instead of bleeding him dry.

Props to Sai for how he wordlessly showed us through the almost-forming tears in his eyes, his hand slowly moving up to pat Keerti's hand, and his half-smile that never reached his eyes when she hugged him. Raghav knows exactly what's going on and to hear her call him bhai and shower him with all that affection in a superficial manner, gosh it can't get more painful than that. He's the kind of guy who'd rather have her be angry than be fake with him, because he is a Rao and he prefers they be straightforward about their thoughts and emotions.


Methinks Lion won't come and attack just yet. He will lie in the bushes, observing and waiting for the best moment to pounce on his prey, when Raghav will be the weakest.

I thought a bit more about why I wasn't too up in arms about the lashing out at her last week, but it made me furious today, and the general change in context is what it is. He's being hypocritical, and I don't like it.

Why was he upset last week? Because she knew about SunKi and chose not to share it with him, because it was not her place to. So, last week, he wanted her to insert herself in family issues. Today, he was upset that she's speaking in the matter, despite himself explicitly asking her to do so?? Why, because she doesn't agree with his approach? Seems like he wanted a yes-man from her more than a partner. Either she is family, which gives her a right to an opinion and the right to express it, or she's not- he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Also, the comment about family, ugh, it's not something anyone should ever say to their spouse- I am remembering his own past claim, ki shaadi ke baad my house and family are yours so yours is mine as well. But it felt exceptionally cold and below the belt in light of, "Main apni family ko chhodkar tumhe choose kar rahi hoon." Since that moment, she's been all in as far as her rights and responsibilities as a wife, a daughter-in-law and a sister-in-law go. Pallavi's been here before, and I don't want her to have to experience it again, where she's giving it her all, but still made to feel inadequate.

She put it aside in that moment, and chose to respond rather than sulk, which I love about her, but it was evident she was hurt. Raghav's regret was visible too, but slip-ups like this are going to add up in an extremely painful way, and har baar bol ke regret karna doesn't cut it. He said it because that's what he feels, it came out because of heightened emotions. I feel he's happy to give her rights as his wife, his excitement over her showing haq on him was genuine, but her contradicting him while exerting her haq as a SIL/DIL doesn't work for him, because he's carried the burden of caring for Jaya and Kirti alone all these years, despite fierce opposition from them. He doesn't know how or where to fit her in this very messed up dynamic. Till she's on his side, he appreciates having a partner, but when she's not, he just wants to bulldoze her protests like he's bulldozed Jaya's and Kirti's in the past.

He's certainly allowed to take time to no longer feel this way, but he can't make these statements. Kabhi kabhi zabaan pe lagaam lagani padti hai. She can't, and absolutely shouldn't keep letting it go.

With his mother and sister, I agree that he needs to stop putting them above himself all the damn time. With Jaya, a few steps have been taken in the right direction, and yes, they all would benefit from professional therapy, but aaj toh mujhe Kirti ka gussa bhi utna hi conditional laga jitna uska pyaar laga. Didn't she say she'll never forgive Raghav for killing Arjun and their dad? But if he supports SunKi, she'll get over it? After today, I feel even more certain about what I was saying yesterday- Raghav and Kirti's relationship has to be burnt down to ashes and rebuilt if it's going to have even the semblance of a healthy dynamic. I'm all for Kirti burning it down, and Raghav letting her for once, instead of trying to grasp onto scraps from her. Just like it has done wonders for Pallavi to be free of the hold Vijay had over her, letting go of this burden will do wonders for Raghav. He doesn't have to love or care for Jaya or Kirti any less, I doubt he could even if he tried, but maybe just realize that relationships cannot be one sided. Reciprocate what he's given whole heartedly, but let it be beyond that. He can't always safeguard Kirti, he's been doing it since episode 1, and it's only strained things more and more. Let her fall, and be there to help her back up if and when she needs/wants it.

Edited by aye-masakalii - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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oh man, I am just laughing at myself after seeing today’s episode. The whole episode my focus was only on Raghav to understand what was going on. I mean what was going on today’s episode 🤔 Atleast we understood Sunny perfectly. He is a crook who did all this drama just to emotionally make Kirti accept him back but why suddenly agree for marriage ? Sunny always trying to show Pallavi in a bad way makes me feel there is more to his story. He either feels threatened by her observations or he is also trying to separate Pallavi from this family. There is more to Sunny than just Kirti. And in precap he has openly challenged Pallavi, maybe because now he has Raghav on his side.

I liked Pallavi and Amma today. The two sensible people in this family who don’t jump to conclusions based on emotions. I have never liked Kirti’s character although have tried to understand her actions based on her childhood difficulties but today she showed she is just selfish. Maybe Jaya’s upbringing was in such a way that Kirti was independent at an earlier age and she just had the freedom to do whatever she wished. I remember an old scene where Raghav had approached Amma saying Kirti is having an affair but Amma stood completely with her. Maybe that has made her the way she is today, selfish and egoist. Kirti searching for family album because she wanted to show Nana & Arjun but the next second she was all over Raghav bhayya in the dining table. She is a two timer and maybe she does deserve Sunny.

The most confusing person who I don’t even know whether to support or think he is smart Ghamandi Raghav Rao. I started thinking maybe it’s all a plan remembering the last scene from yesterday where they said if Sunny is wrong we together will explain to Kirti. And I think it started off like that but Raghav has been yearning for his Amma and sister for 10 years. Now that he has Amma, he isn’t ready to miss that one opportunity to have his sister back. That one touch by her on the table was enough for Raghav to become all emotional and I feel for now his emotions have got an upper hand than his brains. Pallavi’s reactions on the table shows she understood why he was doing this but it wasn’t right. I would be happy if the writers prove me wrong but sadly it’s again a deal for him. Now a new deal to get his sister back and he is ready to play the game with Sunny. Here it’s not whether Sunny is the right person or not, he is not at all bothered about it so that makes me think where is the plan then between Raghav & Pallavi. No, his mission i feel is just to get Kirti back.


In his discussion with Pallavi, he was ready to understand her but as soon as Kirti confronted them, again he felt he is again going to lose her. Meri family from Raghav’s mouth can’t be justified in any way. It’s not that he considers her as an outsider but he is in a rush to not lose Kirti. His businessman brain track is only on that now and that’s how Raghav has been always. He was ready for a loss in business if it makes Pallavi happy and he was ready to give 5 crores if it saves Kirti. Looks like we have more layers to peel on Raghav’s character…more growth to see.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@bold- And I said the same thing in reply to Ashi's post.. A lot of times I don't like the way Raghav treats Farhad, even if I look past him dismissing his opinion in any particular matter ''Raghav aisa hi hai'' doesn't cut it for me.. their equation goes beyond the typical boss-employee relationship as we have seen on multiple occasions.. Raghav should learn to value him and his opinions more..and if he does, it won't hurt to express it sometimes..

I don't know what to say about Keerthi.. At this point all she can think of is Sunny.. so she is going to lash out at anyone who opposes her.. I absolutely hated her superficial affection towards Raghav.. makes her look so shallow..

@bold- If they actually had a disagreement and it was not part of a plan, then I will say I am disappointed in Raghav.. He cannot pick and choose moments she gets to be his wife and member of his family.. he is the one who went to her to seek help in Keerthi's matter.. he told her not to meddle in his family matters when fact is that its because of her meddling that he got his family back in the first place..I found no justification in what he said honestly.. i

Yeah, 'Raghav aisa hi hai' got me to a point, but it can't keep being enough now. You know, people always say actions speak louder than words. With Raghav, his actions are great- he does right by people important to him. But his words can leave you wanting- itna disparaging hona theek nahi hai. Actions are great, but you need to verbalize your affection in relationships that matter.

@bold- If it's not a part of a plan, I'm extremely angry at Raghav for that today. Uncalled for. Discussed it in detail in my reply to Jean above, but I'd hate for Pallavi to again find herself being made to feel inadequate or an outsider despite giving it her all. And how he had the heart to say that to her, mere days after she said she's choosing him over her family is beyond my comprehension. His intent may not be to alienate her and call her an outsider, but that is the impact, and it's unnecessarily hurtful.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: canuck-umz


We know RR is smart but we also know that he is desperate for acceptance from his family. Another thing we know is that RR is fiercely protective of his loved ones. Now will his need for acceptance overpower his need to protect his fam? I can't see a man like Raghav putting his needs above protecting his little sister.


Sure some people may fall for Sunny's whole returning a large sum of money plan but then again why even ask for it in the first place only to ghost and then return? If I was RR, I would be like why did this man not reject the money offer on the spot with the same dialogues? Someone as shrewd as RR would think back and get suspicious. RR did not buy Sunny's shtick at the time of returning the money - he was about to knock him out then and there so how is he buying it now?


RR doesn't make sudden, out of the blue moves without them being calculated. It's like when he hugged Keerti randomly to smell the perfume. Him agreeing to the engagement suddenly without consulting anyone could be a calculated move.


Now that you mention it, rather than this being his plan alone, this may likely be a plan RR and Pallavi made together. It's probably what they discussed during the hair drying scene. She said they need to do something major and give Sunny a chance then the way they both went to Sunny and Keerti all happy about a surprise. They must have made this plan. Pallavi is in on it. Pallavi wanted to give a chance to determine if Sunny is good right? This way Sunny will reveal himself to her while RR pretends to be against her and figures out how to expose Sunny to Keerti.

We're all rooting for it to be a plan and for Raghav to actually be smart in this scenario. I'd personally be over the moon if this was a joint plan, because then this would be a fantastic approach to this problem, that lets both Raghav and Pallavi play their strengths...but I won't be too surprised at all if he's genuinely handling this poorly because his dimaag truly goes off on vacation when it comes to his family.

The dialogue about 'doing something major' does give me hope, because well, if not this, then what was the 'major' thing...giving Sunny a chance? Doesn't sound convincing.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Medha0609

Was I accidentally high or did Raghav really call sunny Keerti nibbi nibba ??

He did! It honestly threw me for a second, it was so weird and kind of awkward wrt the family dynamics.

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