Episode spoiler - 17 June 2021- Page 9

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

God, I took some sadistic joy in watching the Deshmukhs come for each other in that scene too, As family dynamics are improving in the Rao household, this whole 'happy family' facade is falling apart.

I feel bad that Ayi has to live there. I am waiting for more scenes of Pallavi and her meeting at the park or highway or something.

Re: the facade, I used to cringe at the aye dil laya hai bahaar song being played for the Ds, thank goodness that's ended.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Yeah, honestly, that's been my stance on Sunny. I like the potential of the character, so I'm happy with whatever way they use him, positive or negative, I'm here for it.

I'm hoping for Nikhil back too! I wanna hear what he's been up to.

I want Nikhil back too. I hope Ved gets him in trouble and then Raghav goes and helps out.

Originally posted by: canuck-umz

I will say this, the new VD has grown on me. He is subtle and effective. Some of his expressions match those of the old one which made it easier to accept him in the role. The previous actor came across as more of an out and out villain while this new VD feels more human in comparison; a very flawed and regressive human. He is more palatable and I do enjoy his scenes.

I remember we used to discuss this at the beginning that Pallavi apart from being VD's son's widow is also his cash cow. Amrutha and Mansi are useless. Pallavi worked her butt off for this family and all they did was the bare minimum for her which is accept her as a family member.

One moment (a small blink and miss one) which I absolutely loved in the last few episodes was when Pallavi explicitly stated to Raghav that she never had a chance to fall in love with Mandaar. I breathed a sigh of relief. I always knew she wasn't in love with him but shows have a tendency to show characters acting like they were hopelessly in love with someone they had barely known. Sense prevailed here and they were realistic about her feelings. I dunno if they will go the original way and show that Mandaar saved Pallavi from an assault but fact is that Pallavi only knew him for a few months and spoke to him on the phone. She only lived with the Deshmukhs for less than 2 years. Pallavi was annoying when she lost her mind over this family of barely 2 years; having to hide things and live in constant fear of disappointing them. VD is ridiculous if he is going to start referring to her as his son's widow (can you really do that when she is a married woman now anyways) but better VD and his negativity than Bada Bindi's infuriating antics.

I actually have been preferring this actor too. I also think he has better chemistry with the rest of the Deshmukh clan, and looks a little bit more like Milind's brother. His expressions have also been a bit more nuanced.

Calling her Mandaar's vidhwa today was so inappropriate. Goes to tell us she was never really a daughter, and is especially offensive considering she's a married woman.

With regards to Pallavi losing her mind, I think she was just thrown in the eye of the storm- she got married, husband immediately died, in-laws took her in, FIL had a massive heart attack, no one else to handle the shop, which was the only source of income. She did whatever she could do reciprocate the support, but by the time she came up for air, she was already in too deep with the mess.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I wonder what'l be Keerthi's reaction when she comes to know that Raghav and Amma have reconciled. She will probably feel cornered and one of these days she is going to run away or atleast attempt. Now that Raghav is in a much better place, mentally and emotionally, assuming Pallavi will not leave, he should handle Keerthi more tactfully. Also, I wonder if Pallavi had sit down with Keerthi and tried to explain things how she explained Amma, would Keerthi have understood like Amma did and tried to see things from Raghav's point of view..? Would she have understood , the "intention over way of handling things" wala logic? No idea what kinda bond Keerthi shared with Raghav before all that happened.. maybe she was closer to Arjun than she was to Raghav..maybe that's why her hurt and hence the hatred is more intense than Amma's ever was..besides the fact that she is a mother..can be indefinitely angry but can never hate her own child..aisa hota to uski shadi Pallavi se karane ka kabhi nahi sochti.

With Kirti, I have to give her this, that Jaya needs to shoulder significant blame for Kirti's attitude. Kirti must have been 14 or so when everything went down? She was a child in her formative years, and those years as well as several subsequent ones were left full of Jaya spewing venom at Raghav. The fact that it would be so deeply internalised by her is very understandable.

Joote padenge, but I actually still like Kirti a lot. She's usually been a fairly rational and well intentioned person, and has also had an extremely traumatic and stressful life. She's just hit her breaking point, and kind of lost her mind for a bit. But so far, we've seen nothing that indicates she's got the kind of innate meanness we see with Mansi and Sulochana.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

On the reconciliation, I really, really loved the sequence itself. God, Raghav finally being absolved of some of his guilt. What a moment. Him collapsing with that burden being lessened was just beautiful. I'm also glad Pallavi's involvement was acknowledged in a very normal manner- like you said, it was an of course moment. But as beautiful as that sequence was, it feels like they resolved this a bit too quickly. We never did get Jaya's side of the story, what did she know or not know? While I get that sometimes all it takes is a nudge in the right direction from someone outside the situation, this conflict has been built up for 100 episodes, It's a little hard to digest that all it took was a quick chat with Pallavi to clear the air.

It does drive home just how much Jaya appreciates and respects Pallavi. While I don't condone her actions towards Pallavi, if I take Pallavi's own advice and look at intent, then of the three people in this show who have forced Pallavi's hand- Vijay, Jaya, and Raghav - Jaya is the only one who has always had the best of intentions, admiration, and care driving her actions.

I was extremely surprised to see the picture from the wedding, especially considering no guests and no photographers 😆I think a picture from their reception would have been a lot more appropriate, as it was an extremely public event. I'm also surprised that there is a picture frame with someone else's picture in the house, else there is a solo picture of him every two feet.

Jaya needs to step back a little and let the married couple live their lives, which I acknowledge can be very tough in this situation. She feels responsible for Pallavi, of course she does, she stayed back here for her sake. It's still annoying though. Ladki bol bol ke thak gayi hai, ki let me decide my life, but yeh maa-beta sunne waalon mein se kahaan. She didn't listen when Kirti kept saying what Jaya is doing to Pallavi is unfair, and now that it's done, she wants to undo it. Their logic was on point though, so credit for that. It's not that they're not thinking to ask her, it's that they realise she'll never ask for an out herself for the sake of their happiness. I'm glad Pallavi is doing whatever nautanki she's doing this time, these two aren't going to listen to seedhi baat.

I do like Jaya telling him to let her go being the trigger as well, because not only does this free her from the circumstances around their marriage, it frees him to. Now, if they're in it, they're in it by choice.

You know, I do believe that showing him physically collapsing on the desk, unable to handle the weight being lifted off his chest so suddenly is what took the scene to another level. Amma understood right away.

For Raghav it was just all too much and I am so so glad it wasn't him saying it's ok Amma, no problem, hug, and finish. No, he was the 17 year old Raghav telling Amma that it wasn't his fault even though she had just absolved him of blame. I like that she said it in clear terms so that it leaves no room for misinterpretation. I always wanted Jaya's side of the story and I still feel it came way to soon, like what else is there to explore in their dynamics now? I have been looking forward to this scene for 100 episodes so I really feel let down for the first time. Perhaps there is more to be explored with her emotions coming out about her husband and son's deaths when Krishna Rao appears, but oh well. I don't want her to become a one-dimensional character who is just relegated to being a sweet mother/MIL. Also, with all these villains coming into their lives soon, I want Amma to see how protective Raghav gets but also to see her actually worrying about his safety.

I don't even want to know how the photo got there. They didn't need to have one there in order for Jaya to bring up that topic but oh, well. I'll let it go.

Regarding Pallavi making her own decisions, well Raghav and Amma are also learning more about her and adjusting to her so they will get the message soon enough. I must add that I love how over protective they both are about her now. She never got that at the Ds. As long as they don't smother her, I'm fine. She could do with being looked after and protected all the time, not because she needs it but because she deserves people wanting to take all the worry and misery away from her life. Amma is a great example of a progressive MIL who genuinely wants her son and DIL to be happy, without being saccharine sweet.

@bold, totally agree, it gives them both an out.

You can see in the precap that Raghav looks like he hasn't slept all night, was probably tossing and turning, maybe even drinking. Again, I lost hope of seeing him reflect on all this at night. 😔

Why Amma why...you ask him to marry Pallavi and now you are asking him to free her???

Amma neither lets Pallavi nor Raghav take decision about their martial life

She can see the change in him---but why asking such a thing to do?

Amma and Raghav's scene was emotional and overwhelming

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

With Kirti, I have to give her this, that Jaya needs to shoulder significant blame for Kirti's attitude. Kirti must have been 14 or so when everything went down? She was a child in her formative years, and those years as well as several subsequent ones were left full of Jaya spewing venom at Raghav. The fact that it would be so deeply internalised by her is very understandable.

Joote padenge, but I actually still like Kirti a lot. She's usually been a fairly rational and well intentioned person, and has also had an extremely traumatic and stressful life. She's just hit her breaking point, and kind of lost her mind for a bit. But so far, we've seen nothing that indicates she's got the kind of innate meanness we see with Mansi and Sulochana.

All three Raos are struggling with some form of PTSD. Keerti has never had a normal childhood and has always had to curb her affection and loyalty for Raghav based on what Amma would tell her. I feel that once she finds out about Amma and Raghav reconciling she will become even more disappointed and frustrated with the whole situation. Right now, she's looking for a lifeboat of any sort, which makes her an easy target. She won't listen to the rest of her family no matter how much they try to reason with her. It's going to be a tough track.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I feel bad that Ayi has to live there. I am waiting for more scenes of Pallavi and her meeting at the park or highway or something.

Re: the facade, I used to cringe at the aye dil laya hai bahaar song being played for the Ds, thank goodness that's ended.

Ayi ko vacation dedo, she can go live in beti ka sasural for a few days. I'm even here for her gradually getting over her anger at Jaya. The two had great chemistry in that one seen where they spoke of Sharda's worries for Pallavi's future, would be a shame if we didn't see something like that again.

I've never been a fan of that song, but this show has ignited some really deep hatred for it.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

i agree!

Uff, he'll let her go because what Jaya said makes sense to him, but he's so distraught at the idea. Precap mein jo Devdas waali haalat mein hai, it makes perfect sense. After that tiny moment in Pallavi's room while she's asleep, I am sure he didn't catch a single wink that night, and was just steeling himself for this.

I really like that the push came from Amma- I would have been a little confused and unhappy with him making this jump himself after all the conversations him and Pallavi had in the past one day. But now, Jaya has really truly freed him of the force with which she pushed for this marriage.

They aren't that close yet and look what state he's in, he can't even hug her back. Imagine when they're actually in love and he has to be separated from her, what his condition would be.

Btw, on a serious note, I believe Sai would play one hell of a Devdas.

@bold I actually love the fact that the others don't know the details of their relationship or how the dynamics are gradually changing. The little moments between these two that help build their relationship are precious and best kept between them. It does, however, mean that the others have no clue what is actually going on between them, so they are quick to make assumptions. Even Mansi, instead of seeing the love and passion between them, is fixated on their power/aura as a couple whose sole purpose is to cause trouble for the Ds. Ugh...

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Ayi ko vacation dedo, she can go live in beti ka sasural for a few days. I'm even here for her gradually getting over her anger at Jaya. The two had great chemistry in that one seen where they spoke of Sharda's worries for Pallavi's future, would be a shame if we didn't see something like that again.

I've never been a fan of that song, but this show has ignited some really deep hatred for it.

I want the samdhans to become friends at some point. Jaya needs a confidante at this age and Ayi needs an outlet.

@bold, I feel exactly the same. 🤣