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Posted: 5 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: inlieu

What a painful but beautiful sequence to watch. I can't believe they had them reconcile so soon .... then again, these writers don't do melodrama over crucial scenes and keep them simple. Them casually talking about diamonds, Amma telling Raghav what Pallavi did for them and him having that of course she did look said it all. In one or two sentences, Amma was able to describe Pallavi's nature in a way none of the Ds ever had, and both mother and son tacitly agreeing on it, showing how well they understood her in such a short period of time.


I think the editing in the scene where Amma and Raghav are hugging was just messed up, perhaps because they had her stand up on something to reach Sai's height. The way he almost collapsed on the table in shock and disbelief and then hugged her tight just hit me so hard. While parts of the scene were brilliant the editing was off. Chalo koi nahin. Also, I can't believe I'm saying this but while Sai's portrayal of Raghav being stunned and overwhelmed by his mother's apology rang true, Geeta ji's bit seemed a little off, like she was acting. I was a bit disappointed because come on I've been waiting for this scene since the first time we learned about their estrangement and found it underwhelming today. I guess we're so spoiled by this team that I was expecting perfection in this scene. Anyway... 😔


I am so glad that Raghav acknowledged he doesn't know what that emotion between them is but that they didn't have time or space for love in their relationship yet. He feels her pain acutely, so when she was restless he asked her to calm down, and left the room feeling restless himself.


Amma nahin sudhregi, phir se Pallavi ke liye faisla le rahi hai even after saying she shouldn't strip her of the ability to decide for herself. I think alongside Raghav, Amma needs to be told to stop making decisions for her. Jokes apart, I think it's commendable that they show us see an MIL who is genuinely thinking about her DIL's happiness and not about log kya kahenge or maintaining ties for formality. Then again these are Raos. Many people might be wondering why he listened to his mother's advice about setting Pallavi free but I think it makes perfect sense as it closes the loop. He married her for Amma's sake and he'll let her go for the same reason, i.e. to set her free from the deal. Amma's wording on giving her back her happiness gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling. She really cares for and respects Pallavi a lot! So this is why when Pallavi is back and holding his collar (as in the BTS), he has that look on his face! I set her free but she came back, she chose to come back to live with us! I wanted to hear his private thoughts about what she told him, but I guess they partially answered the question through his conversation with Amma. I am greedy, still want a monologue, but I don't think we'll have time for it since she will come back immediately tomorrow.


Him kneeling next to her on the bed... oh... very painful to watch. I loved the way he caressed her forehead, the tender look he gave her, knowing this would be the last time he could see her up close. It was as if he was taking in all of her to store away in his heart and mind. Pallavi could feel his essence and the lingering touch. Beautiful... No wonder he looks like that in the precap, must've spent a restless night. Sai just really stole the scene, heck the entire episode. He just keeps getting better and better in the emotional scenes, and again today I could tell where he actually started crying.

When Raghav called Farhad I couldn't stop laughing because this is exactly what we expected! How well we know these guys!!!🤣

Lion's back already? Means romance bhool jao. Keerti... the less said the better.

On the reconciliation, I really, really loved the sequence itself. God, Raghav finally being absolved of some of his guilt. What a moment. Him collapsing with that burden being lessened was just beautiful. I'm also glad Pallavi's involvement was acknowledged in a very normal manner- like you said, it was an of course moment. But as beautiful as that sequence was, it feels like they resolved this a bit too quickly. We never did get Jaya's side of the story, what did she know or not know? While I get that sometimes all it takes is a nudge in the right direction from someone outside the situation, this conflict has been built up for 100 episodes, It's a little hard to digest that all it took was a quick chat with Pallavi to clear the air.

It does drive home just how much Jaya appreciates and respects Pallavi. While I don't condone her actions towards Pallavi, if I take Pallavi's own advice and look at intent, then of the three people in this show who have forced Pallavi's hand- Vijay, Jaya, and Raghav - Jaya is the only one who has always had the best of intentions, admiration, and care driving her actions.

I was extremely surprised to see the picture from the wedding, especially considering no guests and no photographers 😆I think a picture from their reception would have been a lot more appropriate, as it was an extremely public event. I'm also surprised that there is a picture frame with someone else's picture in the house, else there is a solo picture of him every two feet.

Jaya needs to step back a little and let the married couple live their lives, which I acknowledge can be very tough in this situation. She feels responsible for Pallavi, of course she does, she stayed back here for her sake. It's still annoying though. Ladki bol bol ke thak gayi hai, ki let me decide my life, but yeh maa-beta sunne waalon mein se kahaan. She didn't listen when Kirti kept saying what Jaya is doing to Pallavi is unfair, and now that it's done, she wants to undo it. Their logic was on point though, so credit for that. It's not that they're not thinking to ask her, it's that they realise she'll never ask for an out herself for the sake of their happiness. I'm glad Pallavi is doing whatever nautanki she's doing this time, these two aren't going to listen to seedhi baat.

I do like Jaya telling him to let her go being the trigger as well, because not only does this free her from the circumstances around their marriage, it frees him to. Now, if they're in it, they're in it by choice.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: BlueJayFire


From the way Keerthi is shown, she has to learn her lessons herself. She won't listen to either Amma or Pallavi even if they spoke to her calmly. She is very deeply biased right now and can't see clearly. Often we see the lens through the trusted people. Remember, when Sunny said this time its not Raghav's fault she immediately acknowledged. Either he can convince her. or With Sunny's some harkat, she can see who actually loves her and cares for her. She is on run for long from episode 1. I loved the first scene of Keerthi-Raghav, asking her to get in the car and then the goons. I don't mind more goons and fight..Now we have Ved also back..Too much rona dona of Raghav has happened. Now time to get back to shape.

@bold, I agree. It's high time we got action. I don't want endless family drama. Looking forward to RR mansion tracks.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Itna pyaara episode. ❤️

Geeta ji and Sai made me cry for the first time in this show. 👏

Amma Rao mera dil le lo aap. ❤️

Uff! 😭

Somebody thought of her as an individual without any ties, somebody thought of her as an individual beyond all that she does, and in such an endearing way like one would do for a person you deeply care for, ye kaise hua? I could feel her keeping her own emotions aside and giving that choice because she deserves it. I swear I cried in that scene, just because it felt so authentic. Aazaad kar de use bina kisi shart ke, use bhi apni zindagi apni marzi se jeene ka haq hai. 👏

She didn't say break ties, she is trying to give her that choice which she never got and free her from the bonds of a marriage which was so not what a normal marriage would look like..It was beautiful for that day, but not now if I look back. She deserves much more. That shayad part got me, because he doesn't know her yet... He doesn't know what she keeps in the deepest corners of her heart....He didn't have that conversation with her. The shit went down another level of depth..

And although it broke his heart to do that, he knows Amma is right, she needs to be given that choice...

Amma aur Raghav apni galtiyaan sudharne chale...👏

I could finally see Raghav sans any Raghav Rao aura in his own house today. He wasn't hiding behind anything, the jokes, the rudeness, the humor, aloofness, attitude.. He was being how a man is in front of his own family members.

Pallu got the right people to fight the world for...

Intensity wise and going by the purity and depth of emotions, I cannot think of any other better episode. ❤️

@bold- Seriously, I groaned 'not again' about making Pallavi's life decisions, but at the same time, how to not acknowledge, that on her part, Jaya was doing a selfless thing for Pallavi's happiness?? In comparison, look at where Vijay is right now. She's just Mandaar's vidhwa now and effectively dead to him because she dared to defy him.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I am happy that sending Pallavi to Kolhapur was not Raghav's idea..I don't want him to be the all sacrificing Mahaan hero..too much Mahanta becomes very unrelatable. The "kon jane dega" wala Raghav is the one I can relate to and the one I adore. Amma maybe right from where she is seeing things because she doesnt know what Raghav and Pallavi feel for each other and who can blame her when they themselves are clueless.. When she asked if there is "pyar" he immediately denied without any hesitance.. "kucch connection hai hum dono ke beech" that's all he knows as of now.. but the moment Amma suggested that he let her go to her family in Kolhapur, the panic was so palpable in his eyes..

I was initially a bit surprised they took this route instead of Raghav letting her go himself. It almost felt like they rushed the reconciliation so that Amma would ask him to do this, because I don't know if he would have thought of doing so, at least not before the 30 days are up. I mean, at the end of the day, it still was his decision to follow his mother's advice but he could have done it differently by discussing this with her. Then again, if he had, we wouldn't get the ensuing drama, so let's see.

Pallavi has brought him nothing but happiness, over and over. He's actually beginning to see her as a conduit for all good things coming to his life so it's obvious he doesn't want her to go or to change the status quo. He has grown comfortable with their relationship so far but I guess he needed this wake up call as much as Pallavi does, in order to assess whether he's really in for the long haul, to make it a real marriage based on all the right elements, no compulsion, no obligations.

The fact that someone like him, who is so in tune with his emotions, denied there was any love and didn't hesitate could mean either he isn't quite there yet, or hasn't thought about that stage in the relationship yet. He didn't deny there was some emotion but also that they were both not sure. I loved that after reconciling after 10 years, mother and son can have such a frank conversation about this without melodrama. Beautiful!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I wonder what'l be Keerthi's reaction when she comes to know that Raghav and Amma have reconciled. She will probably feel cornered and one of these days she is going to run away or atleast attempt. Now that Raghav is in a much better place, mentally and emotionally, assuming Pallavi will not leave, he should handle Keerthi more tactfully. Also, I wonder if Pallavi had sit down with Keerthi and tried to explain things how she explained Amma, would Keerthi have understood like Amma did and tried to see things from Raghav's point of view..? Would she have understood , the "intention over way of handling things" wala logic? No idea what kinda bond Keerthi shared with Raghav before all that happened.. maybe she was closer to Arjun than she was to Raghav..maybe that's why her hurt and hence the hatred is more intense than Amma's ever was..besides the fact that she is a mother..can be indefinitely angry but can never hate her own child..aisa hota to uski shadi Pallavi se karane ka kabhi nahi sochti.

Keerti is going to make some big mistakes and probably seriously turn against Raghav. Lion will make the best of it, and he knows Keerti very well. She doesn't know what he has been up to so it will be easy to manipulate her.

Keerti is not in a position to listen. She's behaving like her brother was earlier in the show, arrogant and blinded by rage and frustration. Sunny seriously isn't the type of guy to kill for (not that any guy is).

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

I'm actually glad Ved is back because we need to change things up a little bit. Bohot hua family drama, I want don RR back and with gundi biwi next to him at all times.


We're the only fandom that prays for real villains to come on the show. 🤣

Seriously. This week of episodes was all excellent and well needed, but high time we get some action and lightness for a bit to break it up.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I just don't like Keerti at all🤪

Can we get another sister for Raghav? Maybe she was replaced at birth.


And precap mein why does it look like that Pallavi is sending Raghav away and she isn't going anywhere🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I am happy that sending Pallavi to Kolhapur was not Raghav's idea..I don't want him to be the all sacrificing Mahaan hero..too much Mahanta becomes very unrelatable. The "kon jane dega" wala Raghav is the one I can relate to and the one I adore. Amma maybe right from where she is seeing things because she doesnt know what Raghav and Pallavi feel for each other and who can blame her when they themselves are clueless.. When she asked if there is "pyar" he immediately denied without any hesitance.. "kucch connection hai hum dono ke beech" that's all he knows as of now.. but the moment Amma suggested that he let her go to her family in Kolhapur, the panic was so palpable in his eyes..

i agree!

Uff, he'll let her go because what Jaya said makes sense to him, but he's so distraught at the idea. Precap mein jo Devdas waali haalat mein hai, it makes perfect sense. After that tiny moment in Pallavi's room while she's asleep, I am sure he didn't catch a single wink that night, and was just steeling himself for this.

I really like that the push came from Amma- I would have been a little confused and unhappy with him making this jump himself after all the conversations him and Pallavi had in the past one day. But now, Jaya has really truly freed him of the force with which she pushed for this marriage.

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Originally posted by: BlueJayFire


@bold- highlights of today's episode and how beautifully you penned down..I love reading your analysis and take..There are many beautiful analysts also in our forum..brings peace to mind to get various perspectives..so Kudos guys.


Geetaji tried her best to bring her emotion forward. But Sai has become so exceptional that its becoming impossible to match his talent in acting. It feels so real. Instead of around the neck hug, a normal sa, on the chest at their heights could have done the trick..But then, sar pe haath kaise gumayegi. too complicated..I was wondering and then he collapsed and some weird bonding and reunion happened. chalo, thats ok..check for - Amma and Son.


Amma is right in saying we brough Pallu here, you got to set her free. but I like you all, I would have preferred if she had asked Raghav to speak to her about it and let her decide. The wedding picture in Raghav's study room tells so much..The aag wala RR having a wedding picture in his study room..wow..he is acting like husband material from day 1. His actions and words speaks volumes. I loved it yesterday when Pallavi was in angry young women mode, he was just mute..Many a times the husbands are yelling even louder but RR.


VD, Manasi - both need a ticket to hell..To be honest, yesterday I actually thought for a few seconds VD felt slight pain when Pallavi said in this house it's only Aayi and Kaka who are hers. He wasn't in her good books. But no, he has joined Kaku gang...can't help him. I had one more hope that Amruta might come and clear about the property kaand. she is saving for a rainy day am guessing.


Keerthi - need to be sent to D house. She is better off there living with Manasi and Kaku..her like minded people..


The last scene - I rewatched multiple times..Raghav Rao - the background score of Ishq and Judaa, very very heart breaking..Courage and Bravo to him, to let go of something so near and dear is not something everyone can do willingly. I absolutely loved the way he caressed her hair, was on his knees near her..[There was no drama of going near her, trying to touch but not touching..retracting his hand..anything of that sort]. How peacefully she was sleeping..Knowing that someone is there for her..Took me back to that guest room scene..and one of those after the Mama Mausi, woke and checked where did the Ghamandi Rao go...Those are a few days I feel she had some good sleep.


Precap: Loving Ved's entry. Better than Sunny's.

Thank you dear. The show has great material so it's easy to write about it. Yeah that scene between Amma and Raghav didn't meet expectations, but oh well...What I like about Raghav is that he is such a husband but also such a life partner, a true partner. Sure, he is still learning about Pallavi and contrary to what we usually see on ITV, as the husband and ML he is adjusting to her as well in this marriage, it's not just her doing all the adjusting. He accepts her as she is, and knows when to speak up and when to remain in the background. Neither is he domineering nor is he a joru ka ghulaam. For example, when he asked her to lie down and rest, he seemed like a typical caring husband but it never felt like he was going overboard. He short-circuited the conversation because he realized she'd been through a lot and from past experience seeing her collapse, he definitely wanted to avoid seeing her in that state again.

The concept of touch here is normalized, no excessive zooming in on hands or chui mui behavior. He rightfully caresses her head while she's awake and while she's asleep. This is the same man who didn't want to touch her when she fainted the day of the wedding. How comfortable he looks. It was nice to see Pallavi sleeping, you're right. Some peace finally coming into her life, bechaari aur kitna kuch jhelegi.

By the way, Sai's entire body language from when he stepped into her room to watching her sleep, kneeling down beside her, caressing her head but withdrawing for fear of waking her up (he wouldn't want to disturb her or let her see him in that condition) and then the way he straightened up and left because not only could he not take it but he didn't want to fall weak in that moment. So he leaves and immediately arranges for the tickets. What made the kneeling shot work is that Sai is really tall so even when he kneels down he's at the right height. That suit, the soft lighting, everything in that scene was beautifully shot. I can't help but keep applauding the team for the screenplay (which is why the Amma Raghav scene bothered me with the poor editing).

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Its good that Raghav has decided to free pallavi eventhough it pains him to no end... We have to see if she decides to stay back herself or raghav somehow stops her... However it's gonna be out of free will, not any majboori.... Loving the way things are progressing ❤️

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