Episode Spoiler - 16 June 2021 - Page 17

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

It's like first he needed that assurance, and when he got that in an unexpected way, he couldn't handle it because the stuff got serious from her end too. Kaee baar hota hai jab jo chahte hain, mil jaata hai toh samjh nahin aata what to do... This made him feel more and I guess with that came more emotions, and the courage to go beyond himself maybe and test the waters..

@bold: He himself said so, nafrat ke saath jeene ki aadat ho gayi hai, he isn't used to care and affection and back then he used to flinch at it..

Yeah, too much of a good thing in such a short span of time. He really had that 'it's too good to be true' look in his eyes.

@bold yes, I remember how rude he was with Reddy when he asked about his wound. 🤣

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I like that we don't have a typical manic-pixie-dream-boy/girl dynamic in place. There's no demarcation of 'this is the damaged one' and 'this is the pure soul who'll heal the damaged one'. They have their own set of traumas and insecurities, and will both help each other heal and move on.

Completely agree. It helps add shades to the character and gives the writers the flexibility to craft arcs as required. This is one of the strongest points in the show.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Right...The whole team, actors and creatives included did a lot of hard work on this episode and it showed so Im not gonna let my nitpicking come in the way of appreciating what has been an overall great episode from performance point of view and from the point of view of progress in Raghav and Pallavi's relationship. Honestly I was skeptical about how they are going to deal with the "hate marriage" , how will Pallavi be able to forgive Raghav ever after what he has done. We have seen hate marriages in the past and the redemption tracks have been awefully executed.. Here, the makers have been able to successfully convince the audience and justify Pallavi's change of heart for Raghav.. the redemption has been that good. What is commendable is that they didnt drag anything, otherwise its hard to believe how far both of them have come from where they started, in such a short span of time.

Yah, about Amrutha.. they have mellowed her down I feel..the way she was talking to Manasi the other day when she was cribbing about Rahul.. she was so sweet and sensible..I know Manasi is her sister but they never showed her empathise with anyone before even Manasi when her wedding got called off.. Yesterday, Vijay was being a complete jerk..so uncharacterestic of him..anyone in their right mind would find what he was doing wrong. And she doesnt hold any personal grudge against Raghav per se, if anything he was her crush..maybe that's why she couldn't hold back..

@bold, exactly. I wasn't sure how this was going to go because how do your redeem yourself after doing that to the FL. Yes, the fact that the didn't drag it, that they got creative in the approach - Raghav becoming a tenant in their house, trying to fix things no matter how frustrating the situation, having a genuine intention to do what it takes, etc. convinced me that it was worth the wait. You know, some people were saying that his redemption needed to come through a major loss or terrible event in his life but I think the route they have gone is far better because he not only did it for her but also, if not more for himself. He is repenting for his actions but also ensuring he doesn't fall into that ditch again.

I applaud the team for always finding creative ways to keep telling the story despite them having to move at the start of such a crucial track. Aside from missing RR mansion, I never felt short-change in terms of the quality of storytelling or screenplay. They made the best of their situation and I appreciate their hard work. What a talented team!

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I wanted it, and honestly, I'm loving each second of it. This is hands-down the best written, most in-character and well executed redemption arc I've ever seen. It's genuine, heartfelt, and doesn't compromise on the dignity of either character.

I agree completely. I really hated what Raghav did to Pallavi even though I understood why. I was initially skeptical about this redemption arc because for one, I wasn't sure if they'd be able to pull it off and spend the necessary amount of time/episodes on this and two, that they wouldn't resort to Raghav doing senseless things to redeem himself. I am also glad they didn't have him injured or almost dying just to get her forgiveness. I've never been a big fan of that. Most importantly, I love it too because of what you said @bold. Even as Raghav was preparing to wash Sanki's feet, in his posture you could see his grace and dignity because he wasn't doing this for Sanki, he was doing it for himself, and for Pallavi. I just love how they have these non-verbal cues all over the screenplay that take it to another level. Most importantly, through this track we got to see so many shades of all characters, not just the leads, and so much growth in them. I can't believe how much I'm in love with this show. ❤️

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Seriously, kudos to the team. Both for today, and the hate marriage track. I've never, ever seen this trope play out with such heart and poise before. Usually, the ill-executed redemption/forgiveness arc is when I'll quit a show, because the FL always forgives way too easily. Ladka ek baar ghutno pe girega, ya ro ke sorry bol dega, ya ladki ko bachate hue chot lag jaayegi, and bas, saat khoon maaf. I'm glad we're getting to see that work goes into making up for some errors, and forgiveness isn't an overnight change, it happens gradually.

I hope they keep Amrutha a little mellow, a little good, a little innocent. Ab to Nikhil bhi nahi hai, I don't want too many evil characters in the family. Amrutha would do well as the ditzy, but good at heart, but easily manipulated and misguided girl. Don't want her to be out and out venomous like her mom and sister and uncle.

@bold This happens on too many shows and I too lose interest. Just saw this on the other show IPZN whether the ML practically destroys the FLs life and then comes pleading for a few minutes and bam! She accepts him. Ugh...

I am glad too that we're seeing him work hard to get her forgiveness, without losing his identity. There is also a realistic touch to it all - some things can never be fixed or returned to their original state. You have to accept that some types of damage are permanent, the scars will remain, and you just have to find a way to move on. While this whole thing helped Pallavi see Sanki's nasty side, the fact is that she still had to leave the home where her beloved Ayi and Kaka live. Things will never be the same again.

Originally posted by: Diya2021

Reading yours and inileu’s discussions, I remembered reading a book on intense relationships. I remember the character there who was like Raghav. A person who was empathic, had a deep capacity to love but his painful past and guilt always used to traumatise his present. For me Raghav has been a bit like that. He always had the burden of the past but now he is blaming himself for what happened to Pallavi as well so I feel his self-esteem is quite low where she and her relations are concerned. The Raghav Rao who roars proudly saying he is the Don of Hyderabad is quite sensitive when it’s comes to his family and Pallavi. He is now in that close relationship with her where all his old hurt and loneliness has surfaced. His years of hunger for love, acceptance and attention which he never got have all surged up recently and he is looking at Pallavi to plug the gap which was left all these years. I guess this is what Kirti is facing as well. All their feelings of being left out, humiliated and in case of Kirti, throws tantrums like a child whenever they become desperate only to regret it after sometime. But Raghav isn’t selfish as well. With all these needs, he can still see her side, her battles and the mess her life is in. Pallavi’s happiness is his priority more than his needs so he is ready to even send her away. For a person who has kept saying not to eave him, this is a huge step in showing that he cares for her.

Pallavi had a traumatised past but we still don’t know if it was bad like Raghav. Even if it was she still got few years of happiness from Deshmuk family and now Rao’s. She is in a more better place to understand his pain and support him than he doing it for her. I don’t think she is thought of love or anything, she is just accepted him wholeheartedly with all his vices and virtues and understands him extremely well. I don’t think he has also thought of love, for him she is that intimate person with whom he can share his feelings and emotions, a person he has lacked to have all these years.

I read too many discussions at the end of the day and got bottled up with too many thoughts. Just penned it down.

@bold, I love seeing all this and I am hoping they will dive deeper into it. These insecurities will not go away so quickly and only with faith and support Pallavi shows him can he start to believe that good things can happen to him too. I am still wondering if she will read his black diary where he used to write about his rare moments of happiness.

They both care deeply for each other and are actually quite compatible. I also don't think they have thought about love and passion yet, as they are still trying to recover from the aftermath of her being thrown out, their forced marriage, the challenge, etc. Maybe that will be the next track, how they become real friends and feel more comfortable sharing things with one another.

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Agree, agree and agree. 😆

She would be disgusted by VD and would have stopped him, in any situation, I agree. What I mean is her extra protectiveness and emphasis on her relationship with Raghav.. This is after she got to know his past and could connect with him on a much deeper level, plus she felt the need to make him feel secure about his own self as well as the relationship. Because she knows why he was doing it...

Actions and reactions and actions and reactions.. He does something, she feels something, she does something and he feels more and does something again and it keeps on escalating.. 😆😆

Offcourse, it was the right thing to do, but the way it was done had to be a mixture of righteousness + protectiveness + her own frustration. Which emotion was dominating, it's upto us to interpret. The protectiveness was the demand of the hour I feel. Righteousness came second, and then her own frustration.

When VD came back to take her, it was righteousness. When she went there to prove Raghav's innocence, it was again righteousness + a bit of protectiveness. And now all of that plus she was frustrated too.

However, here she had the chance to say, Raghav why are you doing this? Maafi kisi galat kaam ke liye maangi jaati hai, jab maine kuchh galat kiya hi nahin hai toh kyun maang rahe ho maafi mere liye...

Anyways she did manage to strike some major points across, so not bad at all. .. 👏

@bold, she does indeed connect on a deeper level with him because of the immense trust he showed in her, because she has a bit more insight into what made him who he is today, and because she sees how pure his soul is, despite being tormented. Only the two of them knew the significance of what he was about to do for Sanki, so she is in a position to appreciate how big a move he was going to make just for her.

I don't know if she will have further interactions with Sanki but for now I think what she did say was still far better than crying and apologizing to him as in the past. Her entire demeanor and body language was different when talking to Sanki. I can't help but think that staying with Raghav has rubbed off on her, but also it was a subconscious trigger to answer Raghav's question: What does Pallavi want, not Pallavi Deshmukh?

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Also, he is ziddi/single track minded and man of his words.. He tried his best but couldn't and now Pallavi closed that door. It's like what Pallavi said, what has been done has been done, ab chahe tum kuchh bhi karlo use sahi nahin kar sakte and he couldn't. He was on a mission and he failed, so now he is ready to accept the consequences. The rest is upto Pallavi. It is actually his duty/responsibility to take away that obligation first, and let her decide. He is giving her an opportunity to decide for herself (because he knows she herself will not ask for it) in his own immature way. Jyada karne ki himmat nahin hai, itni himmat hoti toh divorce paper deta. And he cannot even disrespect her feelings...So this was the best method..😆

I am glad Pallavi closed the door, otherwise he would have gone back for more. Heck he was still talking about going to see BWA and they'd barely stepped in the door.

I still wonder why he didn't sign the divorce papers. What does he expect, that she will live like a married single woman in her brother's house? And what if she wants to stay in Hyderabad and do her own thing. Bechari ko decide karne to do!! 😆

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

So agree with this. Also I felt his decision to mellow down, didn't just come from just guilt or liking or admiration or sense of responsibility, but also his own willingness to change, not for her, but in general too. People say he did that for her. He did that for himself too. He needed that. To prove a point, to be free of guilt, to have a chance at a normal family.. And that's why he was more desperate. He poses as a villain, but actually he wants to be a hero. 😆 He knew he had this once in a lifetime opportunity, where if he amends his wrongs it could bring much needed relief and happiness in his life, and he chose that willingly in full hosho-havaas. It was a conscious decision as much as it was instinctive. Attraction ka toh A bhi nahin tha, it was just sincerity, emotions and desperate need to do something right. Emotional attraction bol sakte ho.

Totally agree.

I've been saying from that maar daalo episode that he was doing this for especially for himself, to give himself a chance to sieze the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. He didn't know if he'd win but he was sure he didn't want to let it go without trying his best to make things work. And he had to learn the hard way that not everything is in your control, that despite your best efforts and intentions, not everything can be resolved.

@bold, this is what I love most, that it wasn't about proving his love or himself to anyone, not even Pallavi, but perhaps to himself that he had some good left in him, that he was 'deep down' a good man as he says.

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Btw today felt like first part of Pallu's "tedha hai par mera hai" journey...

I always wanted that kind of declaration. Aaj uska part one tha.

Also, the playing out of conflict. I remember wondering how Pallavi, Raghav and others are going to choose between things like your own self, relationship with family and then your partner. VD being so wrong made that choice so easy though for Pallu.

Raghav chose his promise to Pallavi over his own self respect. He was ready to bend. This is ultimate level bull headed sincerity to a purpose. And how majestic he was looking while making that choice.

Pallavi chose her ties with Raghav over Deshmukhs. In order to stop Raghav from going further in destroying his self respect, she had to break that relationship. It could have been any other point, but this was the last straw.

VD chose his eccentricity and biased beliefs as always.. basically himself over any relationship.

@bold.... this... Sai just pulled it off so well, I never for once felt that Raghav was degraded. Even if had gone through with pouring the water, I know he would have retained his dignity because he was doing it all for the right reasons.