There he goes again, his romeo avatar won't help him ever - Page 3

Originally posted by: laksh

Originally posted by: laksh

@bold very true. I don't think I can watch after these. I have already stopped it when they whitewashed Bhavani, read some updates and clippings today. Don't think I can do that too.

@italics oh, a highly disappointing character

I do not even understand what appeal he holds for Pakhi apart from an obsession.

By contrast, Samrat seems a much better character to be attracted to.

And frankly, I don't think Sairat have such earth-shattering chemistry. There have been better couples on-screen.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

@bold orange

I was upset about sai more yesterday but your post here made sense that virat should have been even more assertive that he didn’t want to go. He is the only one who knows her intentions completely.

I agree with all your points and I can only say wait for few more episodes. I think CVs have made his character too soft 😢 now they are not able to balance his indifference towards pakhi and his whatever ‘compromising’ attitude. There are inconsistencies how his character is behaving these days. I used to like the sternness in his voice when he thinks something is going wrong... even with sai. He used be in control of the situation. Now to fit him in ‘sai ke pati sai jaise hota jaa raha hai’ template they are experimenting with his character too much. Hence the inconsistencies!

So I would wait till the showdown! Because the last virat pakhi confrontation was really good. Let’s wait...

Hmm, I really doubt that yaar. He has been like this when it comes to Pakhi always and not just now. I don't think Promo has got to do with his behavior. Promo was to show that he wants to unite Devi Harini this time, like Sai is the one who always comes up with such initiatives but Virat came up with this instead. It ended with just that. His behaviour has been like his many times which I had always reasoned or tried to understand because he was a good guy and also because I had faith in him. Sadly, he has been always weak in many things and it is not an acceptable behavior in many levels.

I haven't even watched a few scenes and I feel this way.

Virat is not someone who is capable of critical thinking, most of the decisions of his life are taken by people around him be it Sunny (Who asked him to go for Pakhi), his Father (Probably responsible for his decision to be an IPS), Kaku (She has control over everyone), Sai's Father, GC people (Who asked him to marry Sai), Pakhi and now Sai

He is submissive in every regard

When there's none to tell him to go for Sai, he is stuck and he needs someone to take this decision for him as none knows about it, you'll see him taking a concrete decision when he is pushed for it

Very Passive character

I can't ship anyone with him, he is just not suitable to be anyone's husband as his wife has to go through series of abuses

I liked Samrat better but he ruined it by leaving

Originally posted by: Bluegrass

I do not even understand what appeal he holds for Pakhi apart from an obsession.

By contrast, Samrat seems a much better character to be attracted to.

And frankly, I don't think Sairat have such earth-shattering chemistry. There have been better couples on-screen.

True, wonder why Pakhi is not able to let go of him. It is like she thinks him to be her first love, had fancied to live with him and is not able to come out of it at all.

True, Samrat was definitely a nice person. Have only one issue, didn't expect that he will leave like this. Could have come back later. He has a mom and Pakhi is also his legally wedded wife. Should have freed her legally.

Originally posted by: laksh

@bold this was too much. I just couldn't tolerate it. How selfish is he that he is not paying attention to how his wife is getting treated but is only worried that their plan doesn't get spoilt?

@italics exactly. Not once did he even try to say that he won't speak to Pakhi. She pleaded with her eyes and he agreed? Doesn't make sense at all. The way he is talking to Pakhi, sharing about his sister and her daughter 😡, how can he even behave with her like that after knowing what she wants, after she has been repeatedly saying the same thing? And he wants his wife to stay back? Ashwini should slap him one day for his behavior. I don't want Ashwini to just scold Pakhi, she should first try to put some sense in her son's head.

Since he has accepted her as his wife on MS and few days later when angry on her did not speak a word the woman in question for calling Sai names when he was ousting her..

Okay he was angry then what happened now? Why has he still not berated her for gaslighting him even after knowing the truth? Why does he not ask her to not call Sai names? Why is she allowed to abuse Sai whenever she wants? WHy is he not angry on PP and praying to bappa that Sai should not respond to her insults instead of asking her about how she should not insult Sai at all. Oh he does not even stop OMi the criminal for calling Sai ..Ae ladki...Ae ladki.. How torchuring it could be for anyone to be called like that..He did not stop his baba for saying, hamare tukdo par padne wali ladki...

And even if he went there? Why do that creepy manipulation ? Could he not ask her to come and do the skit because she owes them one , as she participated in the crime against both the little girl and his sister..She needs to atone herself.. And if she did not agree, come back and say, we need to rework, she did not agree...

Why do that drama and on top of that the same woman who called his wife names, calls her khudkharz when she has done nothing, nothing for herself since she has come back to CN , even after committing the same crime that she did against his sister, for which he threw his wife out , gets to talk rudely with her and all he does dashing his wives looks is pray that she does not respond. Great

He prays to bappa Sai should not answer back and not that PP should not insult Sai.. and he also prays to Bapp oh bappa, let her stay back in this mad house..

Where is that aggression that we saw for Sai for spoiling his sister's life , towards Patralekha who committed a bigger crime?

By having that talk with PP, lakshmi today he went two steps back, from the establishment he had ensured w.r.t to PP a few days back.. 🤪

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Virat is not someone who is capable of critical thinking, most of the decisions of his life are taken by people around him be it Sunny (Who asked him to go for Pakhi), his Father (Probably responsible for his decision to be an IPS), Kaku (She has control over everyone), Sai's Father, GC people (Who asked him to marry Sai), Pakhi and now Sai

He is submissive in every regard

When there's none to tell him to go for Sai, he is stuck and he needs someone to take this decision for him as none knows about it, you'll see him taking a concrete decision when he is pushed for it

Very Passive character

I agree and that is highly disappointing. Infact that is why I am upset with him. I have always wanted him to act confident, think on his own and do things. How long can one be this way? I know that his family and where he grew up is the reason why he is the way he is but he should have got exposure from his school, college and work too. I know family like this but the kids have been able to come out of that set up, set their mentality straight much much ahead in their life. They can feel that things are not right and even if they don't act rebellious, they develop a voice for themselves, they build their own personality. Infact they have come out stronger than people from regular household. I can empathise with his character, for what he would have faced in this house but he should work on changing himself, change for others if not for himself. And his behavior with Pakhi is just not right, not acceptable atleast to me. I didn't expect that from him.

When he wants his wife, it doesn't work for me when he cries or thinks to himself, he should act, he should do something about it.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Virat is not someone who is capable of critical thinking, most of the decisions of his life are taken by people around him be it Sunny (Who asked him to go for Pakhi), his Father (Probably responsible for his decision to be an IPS), Kaku (She has control over everyone), Sai's Father, GC people (Who asked him to marry Sai), Pakhi and now Sai

He is submissive in every regard

When there's none to tell him to go for Sai, he is stuck and he needs someone to take this decision for him as none knows about it, you'll see him taking a concrete decision when he is pushed for it

Very Passive character

I can't ship anyone with him, he is just not suitable to be anyone's husband as his wife has to go through series of abuses

I liked Samrat better but he ruined it by leaving

Virat is a typical obtuse raja beta who got a little too praise and validation growing up

Samrat was and will continue to be more complex character with his deracinated childhood, service, and now plausible PTSD. Also, his masculinity is extremely positive as opposed to Virat

Originally posted by: laksh

Please do not read this post if you wouldn't be happy with a character being criticised. I guess by now some of you might have understood thag when I write a post or write an analysis, I always share it with just an intention to share my understanding, share how it looks to me and not to bash characters, not to put down any characters.

In one analysis I praise a character or give credit to a character, in another post, depending on the status of the story, the same character also gets criticised. So if you could all please look at the analysis in a constructive way, keeping in mind while reading that I am sharing whatever is happening objectively, so as to understand who is doing what and could/should have done what.

Below is my understanding of the current status of the show and the plot. I haven't covered all the aspects because this is just an overall picture, not covering every single details or aspect of the plot.

Sairat, where do they stand? Why are they stuck, unable to move ahead? Why is there not much of progress in their relationship? I had once written a post as who built the wall and who is breaking it. It was a post where I had spoken about Sairat's marriage, their feelings for one another, how and why Sai buiilt a wall, who was responsible for it who was actually breaking the wall, who was actually responsible for sustaining the relationship and also growth in their relationship. I had given credit to Virat almost everytime for Sairat stood even when I knew why Sai was holding herself.

I had always spoken about his contribution, his efforts in building their relationship and maintaining it. That was a long while back, I think before Pulkit entered their life.

Well, the same things holds good even today. Sairat is where they are today mainly because of Virat. As much as he was the reason for breaking the walls and building a beautiful relationship, he is the reason for it to have got raised again, not just due to some of his behavior like Hand holding/depriving food/ousting but also due to the below. I haven't actually covered all the reasons but have listed out a few from the recent episodes alone. Below is my understanding of the girl who married a guy on certain conditions, my understanding of her position, her hopes, her expectations, her apprehension and her insecurities.

I just went through a few updates/not to be watched clippings from the latest episode (which doesn't even include the cringy hand holding scene that I think was there too).

The show is giving me a headache. All these doesn't make sense. A dumb girl with too good intentions for anyone's liking especially in this aspect, who feels her husband loves his friend, pleads her husband to call his friend.

The husband will manipulate his ex whom he calls his friend, ignoring her expectations and advances as a lover, as if she is the only one in the entire family who can play the role of Devi and help his sister and niece unite (how can we forget that he accepted to do this for just one puppy eyes given by his wife also for his sister's happiness, that sister, whom he has given a justice by making his criminal family accepting his sister's daughter).

As much as he had regretted to had spoken something unintentionally, he was so dumb to be even bringing up an information from their past about her acting skills from Pakhi's college time to convince her to participate in the skit.

He will also think that his wife and his ex don't like each other not giving once a thought that his ex has been taunting and torturing/abusing his wife (emotionally, verbally and physically (chilly grinding)) forever and that his wife only retorts. He had himself told to Pakhi that Sai doesn't start fights, she only replies and that too because you always taunt her and don't treat her well, don't behave with her like how you behave with the rest of the family. The same guy has the audacity to think that his wife doesn't like his friend?

He will then look at his wife hoping that she doesn't reply to his ex who had ruthlessly told off his wife saying that she was doing this only since her friend had asked her to, to that wife who was only trying to offer a truce (so that his sister gets her share of happiness)

The wife looks at the husband at this statement to tell something but the husband is so drowned in the paschyataap plan cum his niece sister union that he will ignore the look on his wife but will pray/hope that she doesn't retort to his ex and also gets proud looking at his wife's magnanimity.

This same guy thinks that his wife didn't get affected when he said that he missed her when she wasn't around.

Well, he can't even see the restlessness in his wife's eyes everytime when his friend openly shows her love for him.

The guy who wants his wife to understand his unsaid feelings can't understand his wife's insecurity or possessiveness which only crops up when his friend openly shows her love for him.

He can't understand that the wife wants to believe that he only shares friendship with his friend and is willing to move on with her, his wife, but always gets pulled down/made to think otherwise due to the advances or bold open love from his ex cum friend and sometimes his own stupidity of friendship jaap.

He cannot understand that his wife is just expecting that he denies his friend's advances openly or reprimands his friend from acting in any unethical way, reprimands her while his friend crosses boundaries.

He cannot understand that his wife wants to believe that they probably do have something between them as a married couple,

- hoping that whatever conditions he had once laid isn't true now,

- hoping that he is moving with her as a real wife,

- hoping that whatever proximity they are sharing are probably due to some unsaid progress in their relationship

which she wants to hear loud and clear from his own mouth, which will only be hopes/beliefs during the moments they share but will get denied or pushed away when there is no assurance/affirmation verbally since one's beliefs can be proved as assumptions or can be seen as a misunderstanding/misjudged conclusions.

(I know that above is a real complex sentence 🤭 just like their relationship)

One can actually look at the above said statement as what runs in Sai's head when she allows Virat to move with her romantically or when she questions Pakhi or puts Pakhi in her place as a wife even though Sai always calls this marriage as a deal, even though Sai always keeps telling that she is a person who anyway have to walk out of his life, even though she believes that Virat does have feelings for Pakhi but doesn't tell it out.

(I am sure this might answer questions as how is she taking the liberty as a wife even though she thinks it to be a marriage of deal.)

Most importantly, he cannot understand that his wife is expecting that he would one day put an end to all the advances from his friend, show his feiend her real place, will ask his friend to stay in her limits, will warn her to not insult his wife, will ask her to be respectful to his wife, will tell that they are not just friends but are devar bhabhi and will be devar bhabhi always.

As much as Sai was also responsible for him to be made to convince his friend to participate in the skit, screw this man who doesn't once think that he is the only one who knows his so called friend's actual intentions.

He is the only one aware that his friend not just loves him but also wants him to reciprocate her feelings and is expecting him to take their story forward.

He should know that after he has come to know of Pakhi's motives, of her feelings, he shouldn't be even talking to that lady as a friend, should treat her as only his brother's wife with respect but at the same time should be acting indifferent towards her, should be giving her cold shoulders so that he can always clearly draw some boundaries between them thereby discouraging her from expecting anything from him, stopping her from having unethical inmoral expectations from him.

The guy should have warned her for what the lady spoke in today's episode but instead ignored her advances, used her for his own benefit (even if that means his sister's happiness).

He is coming across as a selfish person who once rejected a girl's love/by not accepting her love for his own brother's happiness and now again by emotionally manipulating the same lady whom he knows wants him to be her lover even though they both are married to two different people for his sister's happiness, not once thinking about his wife whom he claims as the love of his life. It looks as if he is only worried about his brother or his sister or his family or himself at the end of the day even though he has been a kind, generous and a magnanimous person.

P.s I have not been around since last afternoon. Won't be around much today too and don't wish to use the forum actively or watch this horrendous show for now. Apologies to not be able to reply to those who have tagged me and to not be able to reply to anyone who comments on this post too immediately.

Tagged a few, hope you don't mind, I will totally understand if any of you don't wish to be tagged in serious posts in future.

Originally posted by: Bluegrass

Virat is a typical obtuse raja beta who got a little too praise and validation growing up

Samrat was and will continue to be more complex character with his deracinated childhood, service, and now plausible PTSD. Also, his masculinity is extremely positive as opposed to Virat

I am curious about Samrat and I somehow feel he has more backbone than Virat..We will have to see once he comes back... And PP is being whitewashed for him already..