Mata kabhi kumata nahi hosakti - Page 2

Originally posted by: msin

Kaku won’t become good .. she’s the main vamp .. she might turn tables on Sai .. and fool her for some time .. it’s been too much Sai Sai .. so she might pretend to be good and fool virat ..

Originally posted by: Lostin90s

I beg to differ. It's not kaku but pakhi who is the main vamp here.

I may be a minority who also feels that Bhavani is the main vamp. Pakhi is a monster of Virat's making. She has been emboldened by Virat's silence. Virat is tolerant of her only because she is his brother's wife and possibly due to guilt. Even though she does manage to manipulate him using his weak points, she does not actually have any power over him.

Pakhi does not hold any power in CN. She has been given leverage by Bhavani's patronage of her. If not for that, she will not even be able to survive in CN, let alone cause so much confusion. In that way, she is Bhavani's minion much like Omi, Ninad. As manipulative as Pakhi is, she is stupid - she allows her emotions to take control and is therefore not capable of fooling people for long. Bhavani on the other hand is adept at controlling people and using them as puppets - proof is how she has controlled two generations of Chavans despite not being directly related by blood. So much so, everyone believes that she has sacrificed a lot for the family (it is laughable). More importantly, Virat has an emotional connect with her which he lacks with Pakhi. If she plays it smart, and acts remorseful, she still has the power to manipulate Virat- more than anybody else.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Are they setting the stage to whitewash bk with this line?! 🙈😡🙄

Why?! Ugh ...

I really dont understand what this line in precap means.

Sai saying it seems to suggest that while she may do the bhaanda-phod, she herself might "get over" everything too easily and quickly with saying stupid lines like this.

I sincerely hope thats not the case. They need to show that people fo pay for their sins rather than whitewash criminal actions with some ridiculous kahavat!

KD meiin aisa kuch hua tha kya????

Ho to sakta hain

But will the writers really think this way and do it? 🤔

Because usually it is ‘bade galat nhi hote’

And this is ‘dil ke ache log and ghar ke bade

I really hope they don't go down the path of fooling Sai. That track was used during Neil's Covid absence. That point, they had to drag the episodes.

Generally, Sai is a fighter and is shown to be intelligent yet impulsive. I hope they keep her that way.

But I still don't know how this Kaku's track will go. She can't turn positive, she is the lead villain, so to speak.

Both cannot change their personalities!!

Kaku and Sai's rivalry has to be the crux of this show for a good while..Since the actor playing Patralekha has been really a let down, they will have to keep Kaku as a grey shaded character.. for a good while I believe..She can keep getting back to acting good and turning back to negative... I believe..

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

The line Sai said is from Adi Shankaracharya’s Devi Aparadha kshamapana stotram.

विधेरज्ञानेन द्रविणविरहेणालसतया

विधेयाशक्यत्वात्तव चरणयोर्या च्युतिरभूत् ।

तदेतत् क्षन्तव्यं जननि सकलोद्धारिणि शिवे

कुपुत्रो जायेत क्वचिदपि कुमाता न भवति ॥२॥

(O Mother.! Due to Ignorance of the Vidhis (Injunctions of Worship), and due to lack of Wealth, as well as due to my Indolent (Lazy) nature, ...

It was not possible for me to serve Your Lotus Feet; there have been Failures on the performance of my duties (I admit that),

All these are pardonable (by You), O Mother; because You are the Saviour of All, O Shivaa (Auspicious Mother),

There can be Kuputra (fallen disobedient son turning away from Mother), but there can never be Kumata (Mother turning away from son permanently.

Adi Shankara here is asking forgiveness to Devi Maa for the mistakes in performing his duties.

He says however bad the son is,mother will always forgive and never be angry with him forever.

Aise lines Adi Shankara ne Devi maa ke liye bolaa.🙏 There is no place for such a line to be used in context of bk!

So I don't know if this exact line is there in the book of Ramayana or not, but in one of the tv shows of Ramayana (don't remember which one, since I have watched many), there is this line Bharat says to Kaikayi after he comes back to Ayodhya and find out what happened. The line is-

"Putra Kuputra ho sakta hai, ye mujhe gyaat tha. Mata Kumata ho sakti hai, aaj mai swayam iss baat ka sakshi hu."

What I mean to say is, no matter how much makers try to whitewash Bhawani, for me her actions, or rather crimes, can never be justified, no matter the reason or sentiment behind it.

Bk is a vile horrible woman as far as they have portrayed. They have shown her have absolutely no guilt for her actions, no hesitation in performing crimes, no monologue/expression that shows her have any second thoughts about her "conservative mindset" and her daughters happiness etc. She has done everything in a calculated way and even after seeing the consequences of her actions on devi, she didnt falter. For years she has just watched her daughter turn into mentally ill version , pining for her love- her pulkit and her child whose face also she couldn't see and instead of trying to rectify the situation she made devi scared of her. Devi's reaction seeing bk is of fear and disgust.

Toh yeh sab dikhane ke baad, to have a precap line like mata kumata nahi ho sakti struck me as odd because whats the context... despite her actions is bk not kumata?!

Maybe Sai will go on to say aisi kahawat hai but aaj dekh liya ki mata bhi kumata hosakti hai. I really hope she does!

They will at some point bring about that change in Bhavani’s character. But how can they clear her image? With all her heinous acts she is beyond redemption. She may have a change of heart, but that can’t overshadow her deeds.