Barrister Babu Episode Discussion Thread - Page 94

Originally posted by: Indira12

Agreed Faja. Saurabh-Sampoorna had a lot of scope. All those misogynistic developments in a marriage that happened during that era and which continue even now could have been brought with Saurabh-Sampoorna in the view and Rudhita fighting against them, adding on their own woes. Just how they merged the dowry track of Sampoorna with the BW and the HM track of Rudhita. Dowry and chodi-huyi aurat concept both are relevant still now and they handled it perfectly. That fetched trps too. Advantage on all sides.

@Bold - I don't know about Mini but I have said it earlier too (and as you said), if Rudhita needed to be established, what was the point of bringing Manorama? Love triangle? Not a very convincing reason. Because if they wanted a 'typical ITV love triangle' they would not have shown Ani loving Mano. In most of the ITV love triangle dramas, it's 2 ways - either the 3rd woman is obsessed with the ML OR the ML 'thinks' he loves the 3rd woman, but eventually gets a clarity between actual love and infatuation after he starts loving the FL (all those typical cliches happening that constantly tries to symbolize the ML 'ke asli pyaar FL hai' 🤪). But in BB, even the first concept was shown, the second was not. We, in fact, actually thought that Mano was brought in the picture to clear the feelings of Ani and help him distinguish between attraction and love. But with whatever was shown till now and whatever is going to happen, I am a cent percent sure of the fact that it was not the case we thought to be. Rather Mano-Ani's equation was made to look like the ML and FL and Bon being the third woman. Like the mirror case. Normally ITV shows how the ML is happy with the other woman when suddenly the FL's entry marks the 'change' and beginning of the deterioration of the relationship of ML-other woman with some obvious symbolization. The mirror breaking showed how the ML was happy with the other woman, but the FL suddenly comes and breaks his illusion. That was how it was showed, no matter how much we disagree. Just like in the beginning when Mini tried to burn the diya of Bon and lighted her own diya, Bon's diya burned her saree, in the same way Mano broke the mirror that Ani thought of buying for Bon. So even though Rudhita was thought to be as a end-game, something made the makers to deviate from it and portray them only as mentor-mentee. Every scene right form the mirror scene to Ani's confession scene made it look like Mano as the FL. After the SR fiasco a lot of ITV cliches, in fact, was shown that suggested that Ani-Bon will not end up as Rudhita. Also we haven't got a justification for Ani's confession and we WON'T get it in the future too because Mano is going to die. So no chances. Hence, if due to backlash, they show Ani falling for Bon that will- first of all will look gross (third time 'real' love) without any justification for Mano's one and secondly after the behaviour of Ani with Bon all this time (after Mano wedding) was so incorrect, cold and unemotional-like, which I have mentioned many times here in EDT (the latest being of Thakur), that it won't ever have a good feeling to it, let alone the previous charm.

And yes, you are right in this case. The show was never exclusive on social changes. If you go by the tagline, it is the relationship growth of Rudi and the happenings in their lives, where social stigmas and consequent changes acted as a backdrop and a steering wheel.

But, as you said, Ani is not like other men- well it would have been the case if polygamy and it's issues was the track. But it was never like that. Leave alone issues, even polygamy looked so natural and right with Bon accepting and Ani, without any ounce of guilt, roaming around happily with two wives. It KIND OF promoted polygamy, with Ani-Mano being glorified. And after Mano's death do you think we would get a justification and realization of Ani regarding polygamy? Even if they do, it won't make any sense.

I don’t know how are new episodes shoot hope bon is not blamed by ani and she realises polygamy is wrong and she never lets her jealousy overcome her goodness and selflessness and maintain her moral character and come out of patni mode that is what I want

I really wanted if that was the case then makers should have brighter after leap and also brought a male lead for bon who loves her despite her marriage ,her leife and her odds and for her individuality and has a soulmate connection

I wanted bon to encounter a krantikari in a life who became krantikari due to his harsh life ,and always wanted to die but fell in love with bon and due to bon selflessness and unconditional nature experiences affection and sets a new set of relation beyond world with him it could change bon outlook towards life ,her perception and of course ani would have been her support in this venture

Hope future mine kuch aisa dikhaaye

Originally posted by: Katy4566

I guess as Mano and bon entered , ani was definitely saving Mano only as he did not know about bomb plan ,hope he does not blame bon because ani went to save Mano only for him bon has already gone so him going there was for Mano

Also as Mano and bon entered ,bon was happy either mano told bon truth and she said I will go forever see they whitewashed ani and even would make bon guilty as she mistrusted a krantikari and gave her coat

Haan Katy, vahi dikhayenge, yesterday whitewashing of Ani occurred, Monday maybe we will get Bon in guilt. I don't want that seriously. 😭

Originally posted by: Indira12

Haan Katy, vahi dikhayenge, yesterday whitewashing of Ani occurred, Monday maybe we will get Bon in guilt. I don't want that seriously. 😭

Hmmm but nobody should blame bon and how after this bon patni mode ae baahar aaye and realsie kare she won’t never let her selfless nature go away ,use Mano de koi jealousy nahi thi agar elder girls ke perpspectibe alag hote hai but for this bon I can say she was just insecure hope iske abad she comes out of patni mode and now I feel marriage annulment and bon self journey with ani as her guiding star is necessary ,bon realises being victim of her circumstances ,hypocrisy of society as she was given respect as she was choti Mallon but on being just bondita she needs to strive for herself and rise above all these societal norms and expectations and become Bondita first of al then any other realtions

Hey after orth scene there was bts of bon in green saree which came when sampoo had a video of her bond with aura and usmein pravi has worn black kurta and now he posted hope ek morinign scene hoga as rc bahu died and everybody coming to know she is krantikari and bon guilty but she was not at fault hope she is not blamed by ani

And ani ran to save Mano but he won’t be told bon was too in danger as she wore that bomb coat

Originally posted by: Indira12

Agreed Faja. Saurabh-Sampoorna had a lot of scope. All those misogynistic developments in a marriage that happened during that era and which continue even now could have been brought with Saurabh-Sampoorna in the view and Rudhita fighting against them, adding on their own woes. Just how they merged the dowry track of Sampoorna with the BW and the HM track of Rudhita. Dowry and chodi-huyi aurat concept both are relevant still now and they handled it perfectly. That fetched trps too. Advantage on all sides.

@Bold - I don't know about Mini but I have said it earlier too (and as you said), if Rudhita needed to be established, what was the point of bringing Manorama? Love triangle? Not a very convincing reason. Because if they wanted a 'typical ITV love triangle' they would not have shown Ani loving Mano. In most of the ITV love triangle dramas, it's 2 ways - either the 3rd woman is obsessed with the ML OR the ML 'thinks' he loves the 3rd woman, but eventually gets a clarity between actual love and infatuation after he starts loving the FL (all those typical cliches happening that constantly tries to symbolize the ML 'ke asli pyaar FL hai' 🤪). But in BB, even the first concept was shown, the second was not. We, in fact, actually thought that Mano was brought in the picture to clear the feelings of Ani and help him distinguish between attraction and love. But with whatever was shown till now and whatever is going to happen, I am a cent percent sure of the fact that it was not the case we thought to be. Rather Mano-Ani's equation was made to look like the ML and FL and Bon being the third woman. Like the mirror case. Normally ITV shows how the ML is happy with the other woman when suddenly the FL's entry marks the 'change' and beginning of the deterioration of the relationship of ML-other woman with some obvious symbolization. The mirror breaking showed how the ML was happy with the other woman, but the FL suddenly comes and breaks his illusion. That was how it was showed, no matter how much we disagree. Just like in the beginning when Mini tried to burn the diya of Bon and lighted her own diya, Bon's diya burned her saree, in the same way Mano broke the mirror that Ani thought of buying for Bon. So even though Rudhita was thought to be as a end-game, something made the makers to deviate from it and portray them only as mentor-mentee. Every scene right form the mirror scene to Ani's confession scene made it look like Mano as the FL. After the SR fiasco a lot of ITV cliches, in fact, was shown that suggested that Ani-Bon will not end up as Rudhita. Also we haven't got a justification for Ani's confession and we WON'T get it in the future too because Mano is going to die. So no chances. Hence, if due to backlash, they show Ani falling for Bon that will- first of all will look gross (third time 'real' love) without any justification for Mano's one and secondly after the behaviour of Ani with Bon all this time (after Mano wedding) was so incorrect, cold and unemotional-like, which I have mentioned many times here in EDT (the latest being of Thakur), that it won't ever have a good feeling to it, let alone the previous charm.

And yes, you are right in this case. The show was never exclusive on social changes. If you go by the tagline, it is the relationship growth of Rudi and the happenings in their lives, where social stigmas and consequent changes acted as a backdrop and a steering wheel.

But, as you said, Ani is not like other men- well it would have been the case if polygamy and it's issues was the track. But it was never like that. Leave alone issues, even polygamy looked so natural and right with Bon accepting and Ani, without any ounce of guilt, roaming around happily with two wives. It KIND OF promoted polygamy, with Ani-Mano being glorified. And after Mano's death do you think we would get a justification and realization of Ani regarding polygamy? Even if they do, it won't make any sense.

Even i doubted at a point, due to the obvious scenes, if they plan to change Rudhita relation out of marriage one and make it go in a different tanget. But why they chose a krantikari then, to make her die or runaway any how , again to make a new starting for Rudhita?

I actually thought this is for Ani's realization, but as u said they will finish this track , done and dusted, white washing Ani.

But your whole plot looks scary to me, Bon as the other woman..

I thought Mano knocking into Ani's life had some validity, if at some point atleast he has been shown experiencing a void and a support from matured relationship or even friend of his age.But it was all out of blue, and I could still not sense any love in it. It was attraction ,admiration, with the repressed need of missing a romantic partner. May be my understanding of love is different, which mostly has deeper emotions to play in it.

But how you have given meaning to it as Mano only is the FL is scary to me.

@bold :I was actually being sarcastic there, trolling Ani. But yeah polygamy looked so natural there as it happened in the society.It was saddening too. But simply to not make it look like normal, the often references on nakil, samjhota,chooti shadi etc and Bon's ujwal bhavishy also.

No, no remorse will be shown, as Ani still want it to be felt as marraige to Bon. Even if its reveled, it will be like no actual polygamy but drama for the sake of Bon.

I am not saying they might not have thought of redefining Rudhita relation. I too was open to it one point. I was saying Ani Mano lacked that depth to be shown parallel to Ani and Bon. Even if obsessive and grey, Mini had that potential. They owned each other in their relation where as with Mano it look like a one sided teenage crush , that how it appeared on screen to me (may e the original plan was different)

Originally posted by: Katy4566

Hey after orth scene there was bts of bon in green saree which came when sampoo had a video of her bond with aura and usmein pravi has worn black kurta and now he posted hope ek morinign scene hoga as rc bahu died and everybody coming to know she is krantikari and bon guilty but she was not at fault hope she is not blamed by ani

And ani ran to save Mano but he won’t be told bon was too in danger as she wore that bomb coat

But I liked one thing bon Mano de jealous nahi thi she considered a person wrong in her life who just wished good for her agar ani beech mein nahi aaya hota and sautan drama kabhi tha hi nahi cause our bon is a kiddo thrown into complicated situations and Mano loved bon because deep down she knows bon is a very good hearted and selfless girl having potential to reach height she has gone through a lot of pain so she became like this

I thought Mano if in reference to a marriage stayed in Bon's heart, Bon by herself will create barrier in Rudhita relation in future.A reinforcenment over marriage annulment. ANi-Bon equation shifting for now as mentor and mentee. This would be a crux post leap ,after Bon becoming Barrister babu for story growth.

This is what I meant by love triangle (not the often sold one)

.For this too Ani's realization is much needed it to be convincing.

But now with Mano death, and no more polygamy reference, I honsetly doubt why was this Mano ever her

Originally posted by: faja

Even i doubted at a point, due to the obvious scenes, if they plan to change Rudhita relation out of marriage one and make it go in a different tanget. But why they chose a krantikari then, to make her die or runaway any how , again to make a new starting for Rudhita?

I actually thought this is for Ani's realization, but as u said they will finish this track , done and dusted, white washing Ani.

But your whole plot looks scary to me, Bon as the other woman..

I thought Mano knocking into Ani's life had some validity, if at some point atleast he has been shown experiencing a void and a support from matured relationship or even friend of his age.But it was all out of blue, and I could still not sense any love in it. It was attraction ,admiration, with the repressed need of missing a romantic partner. May be my understanding of love is different, which mostly has deeper emotions to play in it.

But how you have given meaning to it as Mano only is the FL is scary to me.

@bold :I was actually being sarcastic there, trolling Ani. But yeah polygamy looked so natural there as it happened in the society.It was saddening too. But simply to not make it look like normal, the often references on nakil, samjhota,chooti shadi etc and Bon's ujwal bhavishy also.

No, no remorse will be shown, as Ani still want it to be felt as marraige to Bon. Even if its reveled, it will be like no actual polygamy but drama for the sake of Bon.

I am not saying they might not have thought of redefining Rudhita relation. I too was open to it one point. I was saying Ani Mano lacked that depth to be shown parallel to Ani and Bon. Even if obsessive and grey, Mini had that potential. They owned each other in their relation where as with Mano it look like a one sided teenage crush , that how it appeared on screen to me (may e the original plan was different)

..But why they chose a krantikari then, to make her die or runaway any how , again to make a new starting for Rudhita?...

As Sabah said, because they had expected some backlash, so for the sake of a BACKUP - a krantikari. So that if their plan fails, they can show her die.

@Bold - No Faja, your understanding of love is very nice and most of the people here in IF believe that only, including me. Remember I wrote it previously too that Ani-Mano don't share 'love'? I have said it and will repeat it in the future too for a hundredth time that Ani's love towards Mano is not real love. What I want to say is our understanding or our reasoning don't hold any significance. We can scream that Ani doesn't loves Manorama, but what can we do if makers show it as love? Ani-Mano's scenes do not convey love (as per our understanding), but if you go by the the norms of Indian television, it is love. It is not our fault that we thought the show is different from a typical ITV show because IT WAS. That's why we kept on defending and tried to reason out the track from every possible way. But did it work? No. It's not our fault that they made it a typical ITV drama later. We can't really help if makers and some people have a limited idea of love, only relating it to romantic attraction and all (Although I don't think makers was like this from the beginning only, else we wouldn't have got Rudhita).

About Bon being the other woman, I tried to say that Bon 'looked like' one as per typical ITV scenes, BUT ONLY IN THE ANI-MANO EQUATION, NOT IN THE OTHER ASPECTS. I just tried to give an example for relatability, nothing else.

Originally posted by: faja

I thought Mano if in reference to a marriage stayed in Bon's heart, Bon by herself will create barrier in Rudhita relation in future.A reinforcenment over marriage annulment. ANi-Bon equation shifting for now as mentor and mentee. This would be a crux post leap ,after Bon becoming Barrister babu for story growth.

This is what I meant by love triangle (not the often sold one)

.For this too Ani's realization is much needed it to be convincing.

But now with Mano death, and no more polygamy reference, I honsetly doubt why was this Mano ever her

That would be great. But you yourself pointed out the reason as to why there is a less possibility for that which is Mano's death. At this stage I really do not wanted Mano to die. This made the 0.0001% hope for Ani's realization and justification for all these turn to complete 0. Mano is crucial for giving a proper end to polygamy, Ani's realization and Bon getting out of this 'mere patibabu kabhi galat nahi karenge mere saath' zone. But sadly, I don't think this will be the case. Fans, out of anger, just wanted her exit, not analyzing the aftermath. She could have died or be gone, but after giving us all what we are waiting for.

Originally posted by: Katy4566

Hey after orth scene there was bts of bon in green saree which came when sampoo had a video of her bond with aura and usmein pravi has worn black kurta and now he posted hope ek morinign scene hoga as rc bahu died and everybody coming to know she is krantikari and bon guilty but she was not at fault hope she is not blamed by ani

And ani ran to save Mano but he won’t be told bon was too in danger as she wore that bomb coat

Mujhe nahi lagta wo mourning scene tha Katy. If it was funeral, they would have been dressed up in white(like in Saurabh case).