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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM


If Ani didn't want his marriage to end (Their relationship won't end, marriage is just a facade, Their relationship goes deeper than this), Did he want to remain married to Bon? Does he really see her as his wife? you see this poses dozens of questions many of which lie on the ground of sensitivity of the topic, so I am treading slowly


There is a reason why people still practice Child marriage, If you see most reactions on the promo are sad that a bill like this exist, so the promo evokes emotions against Child Marriage restraint act, because they are showing Bon and Ani as a victim of it, instead of presenting her as a beneficiary of the act, the man who filed petition is unhappy, shouldn't this be celebrated if it is good?


Bon would have questions, here Ani should have played a role which assured her that he remains with her regardless of the status of their marriage, their bond and their relationship remains the same but Ani is shown crying about it, which makes me wonder if Channel is trying to tell us that the act was wrong, It is pretty confusing

I think he had accepted her as his wife in his own way which is clearly different from the definition given by society to their relation. Post HM track till SR fiasco he never had any problem in accepting Bon as his wife. But will he ever accept her as wife in the traditional sense, is an open question so far. No answer to it, except only time will tell.

Most people reacted against the promo because they connect it to Ani's notorious ek nazar mein huye zindagi bhar ka prem and his second marriage to mano. If this track comes with mano, then the whole meaning changes. Polygamy problem will vanish,Ani will have only one wife and Bon will become the other woman. No one wants it, including me. I honestly expect this track comes after mano's exit. Otherwise I will not be able to watch it.

Channel or anyone cannot portray this act as a bad thing. It is one of the good things happened in society. Look at the words in complete promo. They called Child marriage as a kupradha but called Ani-Bon relation as beautiful. It clearly shows the difference of their relation from other usual child marriages. Their relation is anokha far away from the stereotypes of society.

Ani knows the difference of their marriage from other child marriages but Bon doesn't know it. He might be crying over his helplessness;eventhough his personal relationship doesn't have any negative effect of child marriage, he cannot support the social practice of child marriage.

Bon definitely has a lot of questions and insecurities. In fact all her recent crazy actions come from her insecurity. Only Ani can remove these insecurities and answer her questions. I hope he will do it and both of them will realize the uniqueness of their relationship at the end of this track.

About the flipping roles . It will act as a reality check and his greatest test. Obviously he cannot not go against the Act, which is a good thing in general sense. But the same Act is challenging the most important relation, his jeene ki vajah and threatens to take it away from him. I want to know how he handles it. I'm curious to know if he will be successful in finding a middle path.

Edited by Arcturus_S - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: Alexia_Wilson

Its pretty confusing if we see it that way. But I want them to feel angry and then understand how blasphemous is child marriage.

For them, this never posed as something bad because they never saw each other in that type of manner where Anirudh wants Bondita to be oppressed or Bondita is being oppressed.

Though Anirudh knows its wrong but does he understand the depth at which its wrong is my doubt tbh


This is the problem, how did Ani present a case in court against Child marriage, If he is not fully aware of the consequences of it? Ani is not only a husband here, he is the barrister who filed the petition.

This is where the setting of promo with Ani crying is confusing me, Why would a barrister be upset that he won a case? Why did he file it, if Child bride and petitioner both are unhappy with this?

Don't you think people who won after years of hard work, would have been happy when this act was approved?

The promo presents Bon as a victim of this act, Ani as a reluctant participant of this, when it would have been the biggest victory for people fighting for rights of women, I don't see celebrations in the promo, and you can see the reflection of it in the audience, why would they design a promo like this unless they are against the act?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM


This is the problem, how did Ani present a case in court against Child marriage, If he is not fully aware of the consequences of it? Ani is not only a husband here, he is the barrister who filed the petition.

This is where the setting of promo with Ani crying is confusing me, Why would a barrister be upset that he won a case? Why did he file it, if Child bride and petitioner both are unhappy with this?

Don't you think people who won after years of hard work, would have been happy when this act was approved?

The promo presents Bon as a victim of this act, Ani as a reluctant participant of this, when it would have been the biggest victory for people fighting for rights of women, I don't see celebrations in the promo, and you can see the reflection of it in the audience, why would they design a promo like this unless they are against the act?

Exactly where my doubts are

Anirudh never thought about it. He has always been reckless. He surely knew he could have a chance at winning or was he so sure of losing that he never thought what might happen when the petition wins.

The whole promo can mislead so many of the people out here

Audience are going to see this show from Anirudh and Bondita's eyes and both are upset

Bondita we can understand to an extent but Anirudh..he knew that emotions are to be kept away from the court. But why did he forget that this will also affect him?

His hastiness made him ignore? Or did he think it will be different for him?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arcturus_S

I think he had accepted her as his wife in his own way which is clearly different from the definition given by society to their relation. Post HM track till SR fiasco he never had any problem in accepting Bon as his wife. But will he ever accept her as wife in the traditional sense, is an open question so far. No answer to it, except only time will tell.

Most people reacted against the promo because they connect it to Ani's notorious ek nazar mein huye zindagi bhar ka prem and his second marriage to mano. If this track comes with mano, then the whole meaning changes. Polygamy problem will vanish,Ani will have only one wife and Bon will become the other woman. No one wants it, including me. I honestly expect this track comes after mano's exit. Otherwise I will not be able to watch it.

Channel or anyone cannot portray this act as a bad thing. It is one of the good things happened in society. Look at the words in complete promo. They called Child marriage as a kupradha but called Ani-Bon relation as beautiful. It clearly shows the difference of their relation from other usual child marriages. Their relation is anokha far away from the stereotypes of society.

Ani knows the difference of their marriage from other child marriages but Bon doesn't know it. He might be crying over his helplessness;eventhough his personal relationship doesn't have any negative effect of child marriage, he cannot support the social practice of child marriage.

Bon definitely has a lot of questions and insecurities. In fact all her recent crazy actions come from her insecurity. Only Ani can remove these insecurities and answer her questions. I hope he will do it and both of them will realize the uniqueness of their relationship at the end of this track.


What I am trying to convey is that the tone of promo is sad, This act must have been a very happy moment in life of social activists, I don't see the presentation of Child marriage abolition as a happy or good thing, both protagonists are unhappy. One of them is victim of child marriage and another one is petitioner, do you see? Victim is upset and petitioner is crying

Reaction of Audience is against the act too

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM


What I am trying to convey is that the tone of promo is sad, This act must have been a very happy moment in life of social activists, I don't see the presentation of Child marriage abolition as a happy or good thing, both protagonists are unhappy. One of them is victim of child marriage and another one is petitioner, do you see? Victim is upset and petitioner is crying

Reaction of Audience is against the act too

Read my edited reply also. I explained my post about the flipping roles.

Tone of promo is sad. We cannot expect social reformers will always be personally happy with the changes they want in society. Some times social change demands personal sacrifice. This is a similar situation.

We cannot consider both protagonists, especially Bon as a victim of child marriage in the real sense. She got a wonderful husband and sasural. That is the main reason behind Bon not understanding child marriage as an evil thing. She is someone who never follows anyone's words blindly. She always comes to the conclusion based on her own personal experience. So according to her experience child marriage is a good thing because she is leading a comfortable life. Even though she met many child brides no one actually showed her the real picture. So she expects others lives are also comfortable like hers. So naturally she will be sad at the thought of the ending of her married life.

In the case of Ani, he knows his personal relationship is different from other common child marriages and they are away from the evil side of it. He knows his rash decision to change one evil practice now challenges to take away the most important person from his life. Still he will not be able to support their relation because it will send a wrong message to society. So he is sad about his helplessness.

Protagonists are sad because inspite of having a marriage away from the evil sides, they are forced to let go of their relation. Promo is from the point of view of two people under special circumstances. So from their reaction, we cannot say child marriage prohibition act is bad.

Audience reaction will easily change if this track becomes a mano less track.

I know it is a tricky situation for the makers. They cannot show protagonists being happy about the ending of their marriage and at the same time they cannot portray the act as a bad thing. Let's see how the track unfolds and how they handle it. So far they have handled the sensitive topics like HM, menstruation, child molestation nicely without any cringe

Edited by Arcturus_S - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Anirudh should appoint a female guardian for Bonditha who is genuine and understands the evil practices of those days. He should keep Bonditha and guardian in different place especially away from tulsipur. She should make Bonditha understand everything where Anirudh cannot do it. He can remain as a sponsor and mentor who guide in her studies. My only wish is Bonditha should not be affected.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: faja

While they gave open declaration on Zemmidari and redefining rishta possibilities of Ani and Bon, they gave subtle hints the other way too

They kept on confusing us why durga ma ki chunari on Bondita, why Sindoor fall on her..

or they want to show this all doesnot matter..we are trashing cliché itv hints..we arer so proressive

May be punishing us for thinking right can e expected from wrong traditions and y trusting Ani blindly in this.

But is it back to square one? kaka being asked kis adhikar se rahegi or he will solve it by sending Bon to Dalhousie?

I don't know Faja. I have told it for the zillionth time that the "first" episodes told an entirely different story. All those scenes, starting from their marriage, had a different feel to it.

But about the scenes later, I mean AFTER the marriage revelation, there was an ambiguity. That's where @bold comes into play and I felt about this a long time back. Bon kept fast for their relation, the chamatkaari sindoor ultimately fell on her but she could not save their relationship, could she? Remember during the first episode of Mano's marriage where Ani tells Bon he has a gift for her, Bon goes to Dugga Maa and happily prays in front of Dugga Maa that she is sure her patibabu has changed, that their relationship has now evolved WHEN it was the complete opposite. Her patibabu was instead going to move farther from her. Their relationship was going to dwindle more than that. Even I felt the makers tried to "kind-of-mock "at those stunts that television bahus perform and surprisingly gets success too. But then we can't forget the Dugga Maa shots in between everytime Bon was getting showered with sindoor, or went up the hill and completed her fast. A lot of people, because of that, thought the marriage with Manorama won't happen but it did happen. So it was and is very hard to tell what exactly did the CVs meant with those scenes after the marriage relevation and the Dugga Maa shots. No point is exactly clear. I will tell you the correct representation of the situation-

Writers - okay, so this track is going to be against Child Marriage.

Also Writers - But let's just show Durga Maa continuously when Bondita is getting showered with sindoor powder, it would be 'conflicting' but let's just viewers perceive whatever they want by this action.👍🏼

(The above writing is a tweet I found at that time)

Edited by Indira12 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indira12

I don't know Faja. I have told it for the zillionth time that the "first" episodes told an entirely different story. All those scenes, starting from their marriage, had a different feel to it.

But about the scenes later, I mean AFTER the marriage revelation, there was an ambiguity. That's where @bold comes into play and I felt about this a long time back. Bon kept fast for their relation, the chamatkaari sindoor ultimately fell on her but she could not save their relationship, could she? Remember during the first episode of Mano's marriage where Ani tells Bon he has a gift for her, Bon goes to Dugga Maa and happily prays in front of Dugga Maa that she is sure her patibabu has changed, that their relationship has now evolved WHEN it was the complete opposite. Her patibabu was instead going to move farther from her. Their relationship was going to dwindle more than that. Even I felt the makers tried to "kind-of-mock "at those stunts that television bahus perform and surprisingly gets success too. But then we can't forget the Dugga Maa shots in between everytime Bon was getting showered with sindoor, or went up the hill and completed her fast. A lot of people, because of that, thought the marriage with Manorama won't happen but it did happen. So it was and is very hard to tell what exactly did the CVs meant with those scenes after the marriage relevation and the Dugga Maa shots. No point is exactly clear. I will tell you the correct representation of the situation-

Writers - okay, so this track is going to be against Child Marriage.

Also Writers - But let's just show Durga Maa continuously when Bondita is getting showered with sindoor powder, it would be 'conflicting' but let's just viewers perceive whatever they want by this action.👍🏼

(The above writing is a tweet I found at that time)



Writers - okay, so this track is going to be against Child Marriage.

Also Writers - But let's just show Durga Maa continuously when Bondita is getting showered with sindoor powder, it would be 'conflicting' but let's just viewers perceive whatever they want by this action.smiley20

(The above writing is a tweet I found at that time)


Probably yes such a psychological move to keep the audience in both the ends stay connected ..

constantly making us battle with our heart and brain

I am terribly confused where I actually stand, while my logic says one my emotions just resonate with Bon's pain.

Honestly more than Bondita, its becoming toxic for our minds ''Çognitive dissonance''

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indira12

I don't know Faja. I have told it for the zillionth time that the "first" episodes told an entirely different story. All those scenes, starting from their marriage, had a different feel to it.

But about the scenes later, I mean AFTER the marriage revelation, there was an ambiguity. That's where @bold comes into play and I felt about this a long time back. Bon kept fast for their relation, the chamatkaari sindoor ultimately fell on her but she could not save their relationship, could she? Remember during the first episode of Mano's marriage where Ani tells Bon he has a gift for her, Bon goes to Dugga Maa and happily prays in front of Dugga Maa that she is sure her patibabu has changed, that their relationship has now evolved WHEN it was the complete opposite. Her patibabu was instead going to move farther from her. Their relationship was going to dwindle more than that. Even I felt the makers tried to "kind-of-mock "at those stunts that television bahus perform and surprisingly gets success too. But then we can't forget the Dugga Maa shots in between everytime Bon was getting showered with sindoor, or went up the hill and completed her fast. A lot of people, because of that, thought the marriage with Manorama won't happen but it did happen. So it was and is very hard to tell what exactly did the CVs meant with those scenes after the marriage relevation and the Dugga Maa shots. No point is exactly clear. I will tell you the correct representation of the situation-

Writers - okay, so this track is going to be against Child Marriage.

Also Writers - But let's just show Durga Maa continuously when Bondita is getting showered with sindoor powder, it would be 'conflicting' but let's just viewers perceive whatever they want by this action.👍🏼

(The above writing is a tweet I found at that time)

Look it can be bon realising how she was victim of sati and how she is victim of child amrriage though he got a good husband and family in laws

Bon yesterday said I was a frog of a well till I did not get education though she had questions and tarks but since she knows a lot of things ,she can read whole essay ok English man she has questions but she finds answers to it and learns it’s value

Bon would realise hypocrisy of society which till now she found respecting towards her ,she questioned why her marriage is not like others and a bojh so she has to realsie what injustices she has been faced with but she ignores it cause she is living in bubble of rc which has to break hope makers shows in this way just like she realised hm is a dark place where girls are caged and not given happiness and she saw Radha sacrifice and convinced hm girls remember to take part it all came from her own experience of what she observed and promised rasiya didi , so this is very important for our progressive and feminist bon to realise her worth and be determined to bring change

Hope makers show it this way

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: faja



Writers - okay, so this track is going to be against Child Marriage.

Also Writers - But let's just show Durga Maa continuously when Bondita is getting showered with sindoor powder, it would be 'conflicting' but let's just viewers perceive whatever they want by this action.smiley20

(The above writing is a tweet I found at that time)


Probably yes such a psychological move to keep the audience in both the ends stay connected ..

constantly making us battle with our heart and brain

I am terribly confused where I actually stand, while my logic says one my emotions just resonate with Bon's pain.

Honestly more than Bondita, its becoming toxic for our minds ''Çognitive dissonance''

@Bold - exactly my state. But I have already said I didn't sign up this show to see the ill-effects of child-marriage. I have seen a different show on that. I know this topic would come up but I thought it would come later, when there would be a maturity. The makers made us believe something else and is now conveying something else. The promos looked different, to me atleast. Now if they show something on the lines of BV I would only watch it for Bon, but won't have that attachment I guess.

@UL - very true. I think we should now start taking the show lightly. It now meddles with my inner sanity. We should now bring on some fun from the show, just to lighten up the mood.🤪

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