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Posted: 4 years ago

Hello,


This is my first post in the forum and I've been reading the chat for a while but was trying to manage my own expectations regarding Qubool Hai 2.0 - I absolutely love the original and would call myself KSG fan - I feel like i have spent lockdown with Asad and Armaan. Today I decided that I need a bit of a break from watching QH2.0 - it started streaming in the UK on Thursday evening and well that's literally all i have done since.. For all the shortcomings in the story so far, Karan and Surbhi make it extremely watchable (even on repeat) and I think the way the creatives have looped back to QH1 in many subtle ways is really clever and most importantly i think the premise of the Asya story so far has real potential to live up to the expectations i have but I just to need to write some things to clear my head...


I really hope that Zoya is not a secret agent, firstly because the show has been billed as an eternal love story not a spy thriller and secondly the creatives are clearly not capable of writing credible plot points for a genuine thriller (the ambush at the General house was shockingly bad as were other sub plots as already discussed in this thread). And what was the point of showing the last scene of season 1 in the trailer??


Asya fans will forgive the loop holes in the story if the love story and Asya emotions are credible, the show needs Asya fans onside for it to be a hit this season and subsequent seasons too. In QH1 the plot for the Zoyaan wedding ceremony is completely implausible but the Asya scenes following that are some of my favourite because you could so relate to that pain of that separation.


What Asad is doing is morally so wrong and makes a mockery of his 'hindustani dhoka nahi dete' dialog. I actually don't want Zoya to go with Asad because I dont trust Damini (She was prepared to let Asad die!), but I know Zoya will go to India because the story needs her to and so she believes in her gut instinct and that has already told her that Asad is the one and she genuinely believes she can trust him. I never felt anger at Asad in S1 when he slapped Zoya, because that was a reflex action at the height of his nightmare scenario- this is Asad actively deceiving an innocent young girl and taking her into a country that will regard her as an enemy and therefore putting her in a potentially serious dangerous situation. I don't believe love for your counrty is a license to lose your moral compass....That is not patriotism and Zoya herself is not a danger to India.


Mandira bedi scenes are my least favourite in the whole show - the execution is just tacky and she comes across as third some rate bond villain rather than someone i would trust with national security - her acting has no depth (maybe i am comparing her too much to Judi dench in James Bond and well she was just class as M) and i wish they had left Damini scenes out until the truth was revealed, would have been more impactful too. I think she has the potential to annoy me as much as Tanveer in S1.


So far in the mission that Asad has been recruited for he has not once needed to use his shooting skills - so why him for this mission? And even from the plan narrated by Damini i dont think there was a need to use a rifle - it was supposed to be covert mission to get the codes( to India without Pakstan knowing that he has. I guess Asad being a high profile Indian celebrity gives him some cover, but my guess is that Damini is using him for something else...and Asad is planning to hand Zoya over to her???


I'm really glad that Zoya has fallen and accepted her feelings for Asad first this time , she just knows how he makes her feel no other guy has ever come close to that but as yet i think she's still in the romance mode and not really understanding the depth she will need for this relationship to work in the real world. Zoya's expression when her living father actually tells her that he wants her to marry Haider and she's looking for ways out of agreeing to that, and Asad just tells her that her dads dying wish was for her to marry Asad and she's looking for ways to make that happen contrary to what logic tells her. For Zoya Asad is a leap of faith and i think that was conveyed in the way she kissed him when she accepted his proposal. Poor girl is going to so broken when she finds out....the fact that by the time she finds out Asad will probably be truly in love with her wont really help him redeem himself


As an Asad/KSG fan I wanted to see a glimpse at least of his world famous Gussa - if the whole Rashid story is going to be in the show, then just 1 mention of Rashid by his Ammi on the phone and Karan is capable of showing that flick of the latent simmering anger in seconds, I really hope they make full use of Karan's talents in season 2. I really really really want Asad to make me cry for him in season 2.


Finally I am hoping that Gul will be involved in Qh2.S2 for at least the romantic scenes - i thought some of the shot angles and editing could have been majorly improved in QH2.S1 and in QH2.S2 the real romance should start and it needs to live up to the hype of an eternal love story - for that you need some magical moments a long the way and she knows how to create them. Karan keeps mentioning how much he misses Gul in his interviews so who knows whats planned for QH2.S2


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: IfritAmbrose


Log toh hai bas jaan pehchaan wale nai hai..🤷

No but as such, the number of pages a normal Forum crosses now and a few years ago, there's a lot of difference. But we do know such less people here. SO many people I miss from QH Forum dude!!???
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Antara123

As per this perspective that justifies how she totally fell for Asad, her being an agent or double crossing Asad makes no sense. Also, when the fire alarm came, they way she was sleeping without being alert. That sort of rules out her being any sort of defence person 😂😂😂😂 But yeah. They could bring some personal vendetta. See, Shireen and Zoya's Dad were related last time. If they bring a personal connection this time, in S2 maybe there are chances.. but idk.


Yeah I understand why you are a tad bit disappointed. I think you were expecting her to betray Asad somehow. Or both of them to feel betrayed by each other whereas right now it's only Asad doing that. 😂😂😂 But remember I told you then itself? I wanted her to be innocent. I think next season will be Zoya's perspective. If you have tried Dil Hi Toh Hai OTT, they have come up with 3-4 seasons now. And in one season, the hero totally owned it. In another, he was totally passive coz that how the story was. So on OTT, they have lots of flexibility to explore. Coz they don't give a shit about TRPs. They don't have to change tracks. One thing I love about OTT.


But now that you pointed out, Zoya's just been a puppet throughout. That's a little sad. If I didn't love Asad so much, I'd have totally hated him 😂😂😂. Also I have an analysis for Asad I'll write in a while. Idk if anyone will agree. But I do.


Actually, Asad being in love with her or attracted to her or just betraying her for his country - I am totally 50-50 about this. I know you want him as the patriot who's ready to betray as well. 😂😂 But I'll tell you why I am 50-50:

1. I think right in the beginning, Asad was attracted to her - when she was changing and when she fell on him etc. She is a beautiful and an attractive woman. So I think that bit is a little genuine. Yeah he's got a lot of self control so yeha. But I guess he was.

2. The saving and putting up with her was totally for the mission. He must have known she's the author. But him reading the book and coming up with that romantic fluff to piss her off was a plan in wooing her. No comparison, but in Don 2, Don sort of grows on Roma so in the end, when she has to choose and kill him. She isn't able to. Coz she always loved him, and he could break through the hate barrier. And. Don loved her too. Don completely loved her but wasn't a romantic. He'd Betray her but he loved her.

3. Point being, Asad had already started to grow on Zoya then. When he said, what if I am already looking at her? It was a bluff. Even Zoya knew it. But somewhere she started to feel something.

4. And, it didn't make sense to me, when they fell in the bathroom and he pulled her to him when she wanted to get up. I was like - this isn't Asad? Then I realised it's a part of the whole thing. But right after she left, he also shuts his eyes. Well, we don't know if that's his guilt or his annoyance at having to be romantic for a mission, or him trying to control his genuine fondness for her. Because Zoya is lovable. XD Could be anything.


5. And, when the Dad does and he calls Damini, and she says take the code and leave. He remembers that Zoya said she'd wait for him. And he hesitates. For a second. To acknowledge. So I guess this gives a slight indication that he's genuinely interested in her. Not to the extent of leaving the mission, but like Raazi - you can love someone deeply and be able to betray them for a greater cause - for your country. It requires a hell of a lot objectivity. But if someone has it, it's Asad.


6. Also, he doesn't say a word to clear himself when they ask him about the death. Coz he can't say the truth and he doesn't wanna lie. Then, later, when she cries in his arms, even then he restrains himself. He hesitates to tell her any random lie when she asks what her Dad told. Asad tries his best to NOT lie until he has no choice - like the nikaah shit.


7. The last episode. When they are leaving, he's told her multiple times, he's got some things to tell her but he'd do it later. And he seemed genuine then. So maybe, just maybe, he doesn't mind marrying her, and he feels the mission and Zoya are like personal and professional life which need not be inter linked. 😂😂😂 Like, he feels she'll give the codes and they can still be together. Again, all this is a BIG maybe.


But yeah, I am still not willing to believe Asad out and out betrayed Zoya. But let's see what's in store for us.


Sorry for adding one more thing asads jealousy when zoyas dad said zoya and haidar are going to marry.his face showed displeasure and for one moment he couldn't shoot.i felt a jealous asad there

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: jacinta_91


Sorry for adding one more thing asads jealousy when zoyas dad said zoya and haidar are going to marry.his face showed displeasure and for one moment he couldn't shoot.i felt a jealous asad there

+100001

He needs to lose her.

Aka

Belgradepur.


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Antara123

No but as such, the number of pages a normal Forum crosses now and a few years ago, there's a lot of difference. But we do know such less people here. SO many people I miss from QH Forum dude!!???


Oh that I can understand..I joined IF when Qubool Hai with KaBhi was On-Air and tab what a craze it was mann..sare forums had such huge number of pages..aur ab hardly it crosses the mark of 50.

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Posted: 4 years ago

ok guys i m new here


just finished it


good show clifhinger ending when will be season 2

no uncessasry adult scenes i like that

bit predictable but even i cant guess that najma ke dost wala twist


somehow i feel zoya is shady too 😆



i want to know sana backstory too she is pakistani nm agenting for india how let c

season 2 tell us

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: jacinta_91


Yeah i will.never get bored of kabhi but the story has to work and its not repeated,also if season 2 doesnt complete then we might be lucky to have season 3 as well.i would be the happiest women in the earth having KaBhi as asya.let see what season 2 have in store for us


Dilu is the cutest i was actually missing asad saying ammi woh bechari nahi hai.god i hope we have khan family moments next season along with zoya they were so fun to watch.i loved that part when dilu was shocked knowing asad was with agirl and he was calming her down.🤣i love that

Yeah I did too. But I just realised I miss the whole house guest track. We'd never get it now. 😂😂😂 Until they come up with a Season 25 where Asad has memory loss and Zoya stays there as a house guest to make him remember. But that's shit. So. 😂😂😂😂
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: opsora2090


I am watching dhire dhire, not ek sath .. mujhe episode by episode dekhna hain .. ek bar mein dekhungi toh 3-4 months keya rahegaa ..i will come my likikngs disliking episodes by episodes with gifs soon..

Accha accha. I wish I had your patience. 😆 I finished it in 5 hours. 🤔 Now I am like let's watch again.
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: WaqtZaya

I will try to answer because I want to😆


I read everything you wrote. 😂😂 I get it too. But I am just not satisfied with these things. Coz for me, I only watch web shows now. And I have watched a lot of non-romantic thrillers and spy shit and patriotic stuff and all. When it comes to romance, I discount everything coz I enjoy the romance. 😂😂😂😂 But they mix other stuff up bring their bizarre reasoning everywhere. Which is why I was skeptical about this agent spy stuff. But I enjoyed it thoroughly Ankie. Like totally. Not just the series. But the anticipation, the BTS, pictures, teaser, trailer, discussion here. Meeting all of you here, watching it in half a day, then discussing with people here. OH. And watching all KSG and Surbhi interviews. Btw bro, can you post the links of the interviews? So many interviews have come now. KSG, Surbhi, both of them together.


Also, Ankie I LOVED the background, like the non-music one also. It's subtle and nice and so beautiful.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: WaqtZaya

Chahiye Belgradepur bhi

Totally. Maybe then he'll realise he's in love with her. Because that's when Asad realises it too. Then I want ALL the angst when he's trying to push her away and all.

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