Be careful what you wish for - Page 14

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I think you viewed that scene with more expectation than what actually happened in the scene😆.....the only new thing Adi said in that scene was to ask Imlie to marry someone else....if she was really so bothered by all the other things he's said before this, she'd have long left him.....but she never did....until this particular moment in time. So it's important to remember what particularly hurt her in that scene rather than thinking that she took some grand all-encompassing stance against Adi's injustices towards her.😆.....she was hurt that he didn't understand her viewpoint that she only considers him her husband and won't marry someone else.

As for expecting Adi to give her some kind of commitment at THIS stage in the story😆......again, please rewind and remember where he is mentally right now.....he is in a very confused state and nowhere close to understanding the connection he feels with Imlie.....For Adi to give any commitment to Imlie would involve him stepping back from Malini.....he isn't CONSCIOUSLY going to say, "Oh it's cool, I'll just juggle two wives in the same house"😆 right now.....so he is definitely not going to bring Imlie back by saying, "Yep, you're my wife too, come join the family and live there as a bahu"😆.....he is not in a state to make any commitment to her in that sense until he starts to realize what he feels for her.....and that will also take a while given his current state and the kind of person he is.....which is why I said that all he can offer to her at this point is an apology, regret, and another variation of responsibility that he wants to take care of her/help her.

Worth noting that whenever he is in PD, he ends up calling her his wife in front of some person or the other.....lol maybe that will be enough to melt Imlie again temporarily. We have to understand how the story functions....at a very slow place.....the last three epis implied a shift to some extent but the things you are expecting aren't possible right now.

The whole basis of Adi-Imlie's relationship currently isn't that she is expecting/waiting for him to declare her his wife....she is quite cognizant of his conundrum too....so she isn't waiting on that....this decision to leave is an emotional decision she's taken in a lot of hurt....the helplessness of her situation is bound to get to her from time to time....but at the end of the day, her coming back will also be an emotional decision cuz she feels emotionally bound to him....he does too but they both don't yet know how to label it/navigate it.....she calls it an emotion sickness....he calls it bechaini😆....they are both yet to understand the true depths of this visceral connection between them.....and until they do, they will keep going back and forth like this....tadpoing for each other without really knowing how to manage it.

It's possible she comes back for the Tripathis after they fake some lame excuse....but for that, Tripathis will have to know where she is😆....and right now it seems only Adi knows where she is....he is the only one who saw her getting on the bus to PD....so ideally he should make the trip to PD to talk to her.....and I personally feel the story needs a round of Adi making efforts to talk to her beyond this one bus convo where he failed to stop her.....it's possible she may also come back for Nishant....maybe he will have one of his leukemia fainting spells in her presence and she will come back to tend to him. But all in all, the guilt that Adi is in right now makes it likely he will make the effort to go to her.....and then other incidents may converge to bring her back somehow again.

You have said it all so beautifully .. one has to understand this isn't a story with a straight graph there is a lot of ups and downs and complications and nothing in this journey will come easy to any of them.. right now they are far far away from acknowledging the rishta and honestly it will not even fit right now if it comes all of a sudden there are so many realizations that need to come and I would like them to take it one step a time solve their equation by taking baby steps slow and steady .. this is just pehla kadam towards that realization...

Aaah I wish we had an episode today lol. But I feel Aditya will be the one to bring her back to Delhi.

On what reason - I am not really sure. But Imlie clearly said she will not work for the Tripathis any more. So even when she is back, in what capacity will she stay in the house? So will she live somewhere else? Too many questions to answer ha ha

Originally posted by: AreYaar

As for expecting Adi to give her some kind of commitment at THIS stage in the story😆......again, please rewind and remember where he is mentally right now.....he is in a very confused state and nowhere close to understanding the connection he feels with Imlie.....For Adi to give any commitment to Imlie would involve him stepping back from Malini.....he isn't CONSCIOUSLY going to say, "Oh it's cool, I'll just juggle two wives in the same house"😆 right now.....so he is definitely not going to bring Imlie back by saying, "Yep, you're my wife too, come join the family and live there as a bahu"😆.....he is not in a state to make any commitment to her in that sense until he starts to realize what he feels for her.....and that will also take a while given his current state and the kind of person he is.....which is why I said that all he can offer to her at this point is an apology, regret, and another variation of responsibility that he wants to take care of her/help her.

If Adi is so confused and does not understand his feelings - he should not go rushing to PG to bring her back to the same status in T house. He needs to get her - only when he realizes that he needs her ...which in itself is an admission of his feelings. She has already relieved him of his guilt and zimmedari by the hissa barabar comment. She has also said she is tired of all the lies and is worried she may spill the beans. He does not have to state that she is his wife to the world - but unless he acknowledges Imli's belief that he is her husband and is resigned to the same - Imli coming back to the house - will show her lack of self-respect where he is concerned. Somehow for me - if Adi is asking Imli to get back - he needs to in his mind accept that she considers him her husband and he is ok with it. He is stepping deeper into the deception now. Until now if the truth came out - he could always excuse it to Malini and his family as majboori. By going after her now - when she has relieved him off all her responsibility - he is again taking the mantle of their relationship willingly. He has to be aware that this is a greater betrayal of Malini's trust...than the previous one. He's also telling MAlini a bunch of lies now...so he is in a way already starting to step back from her whether he is aware or not.

I think he will go back because he cannot stay away from her - but will not ask her to come back - he will be content to spend time with her there. Like you said maybe something else will happen to make Imli get back to T house that will allow Imli to come back.

I realize this is ITV and things need to evolve for the story to play out. As long as they keep it consistent - I'll be happy. I just did not want Imli to make a huge point of returning and then come back to a similar situation. Also the ring incident with his chandan (Mun) and mitti(Imli) comment made a huge impact on me. It was his nastiest unwarranted crack at her - for not good reason he insulted her. I would really like a specific reference to this mitti-chandan business before she goes back to his house. I hope the makers remember that and provide some redress. Thanks for sharing your perspective on my comments. I appreciate you taking the time.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I think you viewed that scene with more expectation than what actually happened in the scene😆.....the only new thing Adi said in that scene was to ask Imlie to marry someone else....if she was really so bothered by all the other things he's said before this, she'd have long left him.....but she never did....until this particular moment in time. So it's important to remember what particularly hurt her in that scene rather than thinking that she took some grand all-encompassing stance against Adi's injustices towards her.😆.....she was hurt that he didn't understand her viewpoint that she only considers him her husband and won't marry someone else.

As for expecting Adi to give her some kind of commitment at THIS stage in the story😆......again, please rewind and remember where he is mentally right now.....he is in a very confused state and nowhere close to understanding the connection he feels with Imlie.....For Adi to give any commitment to Imlie would involve him stepping back from Malini.....he isn't CONSCIOUSLY going to say, "Oh it's cool, I'll just juggle two wives in the same house"😆 right now.....so he is definitely not going to bring Imlie back by saying, "Yep, you're my wife too, come join the family and live there as a bahu"😆.....he is not in a state to make any commitment to her in that sense until he starts to realize what he feels for her.....and that will also take a while given his current state and the kind of person he is.....which is why I said that all he can offer to her at this point is an apology, regret, and another variation of responsibility that he wants to take care of her/help her.

Worth noting that whenever he is in PD, he ends up calling her his wife in front of some person or the other.....lol maybe that will be enough to melt Imlie again temporarily. We have to understand how the story functions....at a very slow place.....the last three epis implied a shift to some extent but the things you are expecting aren't possible right now.

The whole basis of Adi-Imlie's relationship currently isn't that she is expecting/waiting for him to declare her his wife....she is quite cognizant of his conundrum too....so she isn't waiting on that....this decision to leave is an emotional decision she's taken in a lot of hurt....the helplessness of her situation is bound to get to her from time to time....but at the end of the day, her coming back will also be an emotional decision cuz she feels emotionally bound to him....he does too but they both don't yet know how to label it/navigate it.....she calls it an emotion sickness....he calls it bechaini😆....they are both yet to understand the true depths of this visceral connection between them.....and until they do, they will keep going back and forth like this....tadpoing for each other without really knowing how to manage it.

It's possible she comes back for the Tripathis after they fake some lame excuse....but for that, Tripathis will have to know where she is😆....and right now it seems only Adi knows where she is....he is the only one who saw her getting on the bus to PD....so ideally he should make the trip to PD to talk to her.....and I personally feel the story needs a round of Adi making efforts to talk to her beyond this one bus convo where he failed to stop her.....it's possible she may also come back for Nishant....maybe he will have one of his leukemia fainting spells in her presence and she will come back to tend to him. But all in all, the guilt that Adi is in right now makes it likely he will make the effort to go to her.....and then other incidents may converge to bring her back somehow again.

You said it so beautifully, AY!! ❤️ He is nowhere near to understanding or realizing his feelings for Imlie or acknowledging her as his wife. This is only his first step on the long arduous path of realization. It will take a long time to get there and there will be lots of ups and downs. He is not ready, neither are we, the viewers. It will look very abrupt if he does anything like that now.

Originally posted by: pamk06

Though, for me the whole conversation started and ended with Imlie's simple statement of "Ab bhi kuch nahi badla", things have changed. , Aditya could never believe and always doubted that Imlie would spill the beans and would not be able to keep a secret and now he is 101percent sure that she will never spill the beans nor share her problems with anyone, not even her mother. That there is called "TRUST".

Lastly, I think , Aditya will get her back with the reasoning that its his values and the sindoor conversation he had with his father. Imlie will come back because of her mother and Satyakam (warna BS ki to phir pitai) and also a promise from him that he will never ask her to give upon her belief again. Hopefully this time he stays firm on his promises.😊

@bold: Great point! Yes indeed, this Adi has come a long way from the Adi who jumped by default many times to the presumption that Imlie will blurt out the truth to get back at him or to take Malini's place. He made such a show so many times of scolding her for being such a blabbermouth, so careless....and today he was absolutely certain in his knowledge that she won't tell anyone a thing.

LOL I'm not sure what "values" ki duhaayi he can give to Imlie at this point....that would involve him acknowledging that their marriage has validity....and that he won't do yet. I still think it's more likely that his sincere apology/remorse and another truce declaration that will bring her back....as it is, Imlie has done this in impulse....she doesn't have a long term plan for what she will tell Mithi/SK as an excuse to keep on staying in PD😆. Once Adi shows up, they will obviously assume he's there to take her back😆....so Imlie will be out of excuses soon enough unless she is ready to tell the truth😆.

Originally posted by: PPak

If Adi is so confused and does not understand his feelings - he should not go rushing to PG to bring her back to the same status in T house. He needs to get her - only when he realizes that he needs her ...which in itself is an admission of his feelings. She has already relieved him of his guilt and zimmedari by the hissa barabar comment. She has also said she is tired of all the lies and is worried she may spill the beans. He does not have to state that she is his wife to the world - but unless he acknowledges Imli's belief that he is her husband and is resigned to the same - Imli coming back to the house - will show her lack of self-respect where he is concerned. Somehow for me - if Adi is asking Imli to get back - he needs to in his mind accept that she considers him her husband and he is ok with it. He is stepping deeper into the deception now. Until now if the truth came out - he could always excuse it to Malini and his family as majboori. By going after her now - when she has relieved him off all her responsibility - he is again taking the mantle of their relationship willingly. He has to be aware that this is a greater betrayal of Malini's trust...than the previous one. He's also telling MAlini a bunch of lies now...so he is in a way already starting to step back from her whether he is aware or not.

I think he will go back because he cannot stay away from her - but will not ask her to come back - he will be content to spend time with her there. Like you said maybe something else will happen to make Imli get back to T house that will allow Imli to come back.

I realize this is ITV and things need to evolve for the story to play out. As long as they keep it consistent - I'll be happy. I just did not want Imli to make a huge point of returning and then come back to a similar situation. Also the ring incident with his chandan (Mun) and mitti(Imli) comment made a huge impact on me. It was his nastiest unwarranted crack at her - for not good reason he insulted her. I would really like a specific reference to this mitti-chandan business before she goes back to his house. I hope the makers remember that and provide some redress. Thanks for sharing your perspective on my comments. I appreciate you taking the time.

Where was this chandan and mitti comment? In which episode? I can't seem to remember. :(

Chandan may come with all its beautiful fragrance and finesse, but we shouldn't forget chandan tree grows on mitti only.

Originally posted by: Happysoul17

Yeh scene tabhi fit baith ta agar Imlie pati parmeswer mindset wali ladki nahi hoti. Uske dimaag mein bhi forced marriage nakli hota and uske career ambitions shadi se bhi badi hoti. No doubt forced marriage hua tha but imlie adi ko pati parmeswer ka status deke baithi hai. Aaj bhi woh jate hate pati ki pair chukar bidayi li.

Probably then the journey of imlie's story is to find her identity

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

You have said it all so beautifully .. one has to understand this isn't a story with a straight graph there is a lot of ups and downs and complications and nothing in this journey will come easy to any of them.. right now they are far far away from acknowledging the rishta and honestly it will not even fit right now if it comes all of a sudden there are so many realizations that need to come and I would like them to take it one step a time solve their equation by taking baby steps slow and steady .. this is just pehla kadam towards that realization...

Thanks, Fary :)

@bold: Same....I want to see progress but I don't want to see rushed realizations....that is what would really dilute the potential of Adi-Imlie's story more than anything. So I can only hope the makers do a decent job with that and don't rush it for the sake of checking off a box.

Their situation is uniquely complicated in many way cuz of the characters they are....this could be a very cliched story on paper of a majboori waali shaadi at gunpoint and wohi typical shaadi ke baad wala pyar....but it's the way the viewpoints have been navigated - whether it's Adi with his struggle to hold on to his righteousness/core values (much as we troll his hypocrisy :P) or there is Imlie trying to navigate the truth of her situation while trying to accommodate everyone else as well.....there is a flavor to their personalities that hooks you......that is what gives it a unique flavor and compels us to tune in even as they drag😆.

Originally posted by: mayuri099

Where was this chandan and mitti comment? In which episode? I can't seem to remember. :(

Chandan may come with all its beautiful fragrance and finesse, but we shouldn't forget chandan tree grows on mitti only.

LOL this is from way back....the very early days of Imlie starting to stay at Tripathi house. Family was prepping for Adi-Malini's engagement and Aparna made Imlie try on a ring....that's when Adi made this comment. He was in a different headspace back then actively resenting/blaming Imlie in his defensiveness and need to push her away.....so any time Imlie ended up touching something he deemed to belong to Malini, he put her down....in this case he told Aparna ki chandan aur mitti mein farak hota hai or something to that extent....implying that Malini is chandan and Imlie is mitti😆......but as you put it beautifully, Chandan bhi mitti mein hi ugta hai :)

*Edit: Here's the link to the scene if you're curious....this was literally almost like day 2 or 3 of Imlie in Tripathi house....Adi was in his hyper resentment mode with Imlie back then😆

There is a world of a difference between that Adi and the Adi today....are we really going to pretend the story hasn't progressed way past that point? Gunshot track has more than shown Imlie's value in Adi's life.....one offhand comment about chandan/mitti is not the sum of him. He has his own way of elevating Imlie's value in his life now....as he showed in his response to her "sadak ki dhool" lament.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Great point! Yes indeed, this Adi has come a long way from the Adi who jumped by default many times to the presumption that Imlie will blurt out the truth to get back at him or to take Malini's place. He made such a show so many times of scolding her for being such a blabbermouth, so careless....and today he was absolutely certain in his knowledge that she won't tell anyone a thing.

LOL I'm not sure what "values" ki duhaayi he can give to Imlie at this point....that would involve him acknowledging that their marriage has validity....and that he won't do yet. I still think it's more likely that his sincere apology/remorse and another truce declaration that will bring her back....as it is, Imlie has done this in impulse....she doesn't have a long term plan for what she will tell Mithi/SK as an excuse to keep on staying in PD😆. Once Adi shows up, they will obviously assume he's there to take her back😆....so Imlie will be out of excuses soon enough unless she is ready to tell the truth😆.

Not to Imlie, he would use his values as an excuse to justify to himself that he cannot abandon her, hence has to go to PD to get her back. I think to her it would be as you mentioned , another conversation like they had in hospital, a truce declaration or just a simple confirmation that he would not ask her ever again to abandon her belief or would accept her choice to continue to believe in this bond.

I agree Imlie would at a point then where she would realize that its not easy to stay back in PD unless she is ready to tell the truth and see her BS life in danger again. This is where Aditya had it right, that she will not share her problems and because she cannot share she will come back. 😆