Ques on MahaBhrarta. Peep in/ DT Nt pg 25 - Page 27

Originally posted by: Y12345

Also @V and Shruti and others of course, is wanting to kill our ego, a manifestation of our ego?

So, in other words, is wanting to kill our ego, egositic?

Thoughts?

Originally posted by: Y12345

Also @V and Shruti and others of course, is wanting to kill our ego, a manifestation of our ego?

So, in other words, is wanting to kill our ego, egositic?

Thoughts?

People who are truly knowledgeable on a broader scale will be able to understand the vastness of the universe and how insignificant humans really are.😊 Humility is a coveted virtue. Absolute determination to be humble controls ego. I may sound religious, but I know that ''God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble''. This is one very important check to the ego in our lives.

The presence of ego is in a way, shows us that we are weaving a cocoon around us to protect ourselves from the outside world, which we believe is always ready to harm us, to make us yield to all those glittering attractions, the powerful minds!!

In order to control one's ego, I have found it in the Socratic paradox: “I know one thing: that I know nothing” --- that is humility.

Ego interacts with a panoply of emotions and character flaws that create a multitude of situational outcomes. The variety of ego response mechanisms differ with each individual, the egotism arises from unrestrained or poorly managed jealousy, anger, self-importance, pride, stubbornness, superiority, inferiority, and a whole host of other human traits. Often these negative traits are not apparent to the person exhibiting them. Other times the person is fully aware, but either does not care or feels justified in their actions.

From the broader perspective, ego means, superiority complex, 'I know better than you ' ' I can do it better than anyone' here the 'I ' is ego, but there are two sides, one is ego, i.e, arrogance, the other is the confidence which leads us to move forward in life. So, where we have to draw a line between arrogance --ego and confidence --- humility, understanding? Again there is confusion!

I agree on the need to strengthen the ego to maintain mental and emotional health at the level of self-esteem, essential to handle safely in their family, work, and general social environment. A weak ego can lead individuals to underestimate their emotional abilities and being unappreciated by others in the fields where we intend to develop.

On the contrary, a hypertrophied Ego can bring the person beyond a mere selfishness low social impact, as it can lead to a pathological and emotional mental illness of such a degree /situation that endangers his life and that of others, having no containment capacity, resultant criminal brawls, or worse, in massive war crimes. War means to win over the other, which is nothing but an ego, which ruins many lives, vast destructions!

That is why while selecting our leaders, we have to give due credit to wisdom .... which is sagacity, the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, understanding, common sense, and insight.

In ego death, you feel a unity with the entire world, but also, you experience the loss of your power of self-consciousness!!! The problem is not to promote ego... or to condemn ego...the problem is to explain all the meanings, concepts, experiences, and usages of those things or patterns that can well be labelled as 'ego'!!

In Vedic times yogis investigated the deepest nature of human being. They developed a coherent philosophy on human existence on the material, psychological and spiritual levels. The Vedic model of human psychology consists of five concentric circles or koshas representing body, mind, ego, intellect, and self. Ego is an inflated sense of self-worth. When the ego is used in the excessive form it leads to the karmic issue which in turn take human life towards unhappiness. Ego is some sort of dark force associated with the person's mind which causes the person to take the wrong decision of life taking into account the self rather than the whole. Ego is the conscious-thinking of the self which causes the person to separates from the whole!

Ego deals with one's self, wisdom rules the knowledge, which leads to happiness.

I agree I take steps to reduce food waste because people dont understand why it affects you. Even if you show pictures. With kids its ok, but not with elders of the family. Its treated as disobedience. So from my side I take steps so that like Y12345 said I feel a satisfaction I am doing my level best to reduce it if not eliminate it completely.

People like the Twitter handle of BORI they are coming up with awesome courses which could be of great knowledge to us.

I just did a course on Vedas and it was nice. Just 3000 bucks and I have access to their digital library too.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

People like the Twitter handle of BORI they are coming up with awesome courses which could be of great knowledge to us.

I just did a course on Vedas and it was nice. Just 3000 bucks and I have access to their digital library too.

For me, I started getting acquainted with vedas and all when I did some mindfulness exercises; aka deep meditation in a retreat camp; and I experienced an ego death momentarily, then I started digging deeper in this literature, and analyzing it. I researched and realized that ego death is Nirvana, a concept that BG preaches.

So my journey was different with vedic literature; as a kid, I used to watch MB on TV and I wasn't satisfied, because the distortion for me was too much; and where I lived, religion comes into this; and it got to a point where spiritual knowledge was so merged with religion. As a kid, I was so frustrated when elders used to say, you will go to hell if you eat this sweet, and this is one of the reasons why this generation doesn't want to be spiritual;they think its boring; they think its about pouring milk in temple; SoSo, I think kids should be careful; and not be influenced by anyone, and its a path that one has to navigate and experience alone; and also interpret alone.

Whats your journey with spirituality guys? Do share

Exactly being spiritual is different from being religious. If you ask me I am not that religious and not ritualistic. But I believe in Karma. I love to read and watch various versions of both Ramayana and Mahabharata and I have written something in Ramayan too in wattpad. People at times are astonished when I say my favorite books are Ramayana and Mahabharata and I tell its life. The characters are so inspiring and you cant get such characters anywhere else in this world.

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Very good question with a twist in it!!

People who are truly knowledgeable on a broader scale will be able to understand the vastness of the universe and how insignificant humans really are.😊 Humility is a coveted virtue. Absolute determination to be humble controls ego. I may sound religious, but I know that ''God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble''. This is one very important check to the ego in our lives.

The presence of ego is in a way, shows us that we are weaving a cocoon around us to protect ourselves from the outside world, which we believe is always ready to harm us, to make us yield to all those glittering attractions, the powerful minds!!

In order to control one's ego, I have found it in the Socratic paradox: “I know one thing: that I know nothing” --- that is humility.

Ego interacts with a panoply of emotions and character flaws that create a multitude of situational outcomes. The variety of ego response mechanisms differ with each individual, the egotism arises from unrestrained or poorly managed jealousy, anger, self-importance, pride, stubbornness, superiority, inferiority, and a whole host of other human traits. Often these negative traits are not apparent to the person exhibiting them. Other times the person is fully aware, but either does not care or feels justified in their actions.

From the broader perspective, ego means, superiority complex, 'I know better than you ' ' I can do it better than anyone' here the 'I ' is ego, but there are two sides, one is ego, i.e, arrogance, the other is the confidence which leads us to move forward in life. So, where we have to draw a line between arrogance --ego and confidence --- humility, understanding? Again there is confusion!

I agree on the need to strengthen the ego to maintain mental and emotional health at the level of self-esteem, essential to handle safely in their family, work, and general social environment. A weak ego can lead individuals to underestimate their emotional abilities and being unappreciated by others in the fields where we intend to develop.

On the contrary, a hypertrophied Ego can bring the person beyond a mere selfishness low social impact, as it can lead to a pathological and emotional mental illness of such a degree /situation that endangers his life and that of others, having no containment capacity, resultant criminal brawls, or worse, in massive war crimes. War means to win over the other, which is nothing but an ego, which ruins many lives, vast destructions!

That is why while selecting our leaders, we have to give due credit to wisdom .... which is sagacity, the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, understanding, common sense, and insight.

In ego death, you feel a unity with the entire world, but also, you experience the loss of your power of self-consciousness!!! The problem is not to promote ego... or to condemn ego...the problem is to explain all the meanings, concepts, experiences, and usages of those things or patterns that can well be labelled as 'ego'!!

In Vedic times yogis investigated the deepest nature of human being. They developed a coherent philosophy on human existence on the material, psychological and spiritual levels. The Vedic model of human psychology consists of five concentric circles or koshas representing body, mind, ego, intellect, and self. Ego is an inflated sense of self-worth. When the ego is used in the excessive form it leads to the karmic issue which in turn take human life towards unhappiness. Ego is some sort of dark force associated with the person's mind which causes the person to take the wrong decision of life taking into account the self rather than the whole. Ego is the conscious-thinking of the self which causes the person to separates from the whole!

Ego deals with one's self, wisdom rules the knowledge, which leads to happiness.

Thanks for your reply V. Very interesting as always.

I didnt reply earlier because I was really thinking about my own question lol and it would have been great to have more insights from others on this. But anyways, I enjoyed reading your answer and in think my take on this would be;

Knowing ego death.

Knowing that ego death leads to bliss.

Then working towards that goal is indeed a big egoistic. Isnt it? Because the main we are driven to do is well, to escape suffering right? But then, how is that selfish, when this is who we are meant to be?

Idk, and I'm struggling with this myself. Maybe in more days, or years, I might get some fresh perspectives but I'm confused for now.

After that, the ego death.

But then again, after the ego death, there is this superiority complex that forms, that me and Shruti very very briefly touched upon. When you have reached that state, you start feeling like everything is mundane, and you have this complex where you feel like you are better than people who are not spiritually woke. I personally struggled with that, and its frustrating at times,but it shouldn't be that way because the I kicks in and it shouldn't. So, I started taking things as it is, acceptance is key, and life is just like that, the universe exists,and it just exists, I understood that I do not need to find meaning out of it. It just exists, and that's it. So, my ego is no longer triggered anymore.

The reason why I chose to kill my ego was because I was in deep chronic pain all my life, so yes, one can argue that it was selfish on my behalf to want to kill my ego, and once it happened, then I could make the choice not to selfish because I knew what it meant to lose myself and to forget who I am and what is my name. Its terrifying as hell but very rewarding. Idk if it makes sense people?

I think it's just a ladder. Do animals have ego? Can they kill their ego? Idk. So, having emotions, and (being selfish ) in the first phase is maybe a tool given to us, so that we can use that to achieve our true state, because without a consciousness, how could we?

So, my next question, can we exist without ego? How would a life without ego be in the 21th century?

Anyone is welcome to tell me I'm talking nonsense.

Originally posted by: Y12345

Anyone here?

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Very much here Yenna. 🤗

How are you doing?

What have you been reading and thinking these days\?

Originally posted by: Y12345

How are you doing?

What have you been reading and thinking these days\?

Nowadays not reading much, because busy with work. Thinking? A thoughtful journey through my warm and reflective thoughts! At times, about life's trivialities or triumphs, sometimes, about a passing breeze, a swaying leaf, a dropped petal, or about a sapling from the hardened earth's urface.

Life is always very interesting.... keeps us busy with birth or death!

Hope you are doing fine. 🤗