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Originally posted by: Juhi_04

They install meters mostly in those houses where people are not modern or in houses of poor people. They are even given money and told to turn on so and so TV channels at so and so time even if they don't watch. I can't believe more than 50% of urban people watch regressive and sexist shows. Even Online TRPs are tampered. 3 years ago, underrated shows would come in Top 20. But now same shows are coming in Top 20 that comes on TV Top 20. I refuse to believe that people waste their time all day watching these outdated shows online and online don't have TRP meters so its calculated in other ways among more people. Phir Laut Aayi Naagin episodes on You Tube reached as high as 10-50 million views. Then why it was not in Top 20? I don't understand on what basis they count Online TRPs now. Earlier shows that were not even in Top 20 would be in Top with Top 10 shows(except Kapl Sharma and Taarak Mehta) not even Top 20 Online. KKB and KDB would be getting less than 1.0 rating then how they are now getting 30+ rating online? Here too they are cheating.

Wrong who said they install meters in only poor houses.....installing meter is decided on various factors like economic condition, geographical location etc....first they survey various houses from cities/villages nd ask question if they have 4 wheeler,2 wheeler do they have cars,ac!! how much their annual income is nd only after that they devides meters nd decides to how much meters installed in different tiers.....they devides tiers on the basis of economical conditions nd on basis of india population nd in india they have 4 tiers.....we only get urban data but industry insiders get full data nd in that they to knw that which tiers ppl are watching their shows nd from which tier they dont nd after that only they decides ad slot rates.....nd thats the only reason star plus ad slot rates are much more higher than others as they are more watched in tier 1 nd tier 2 cities even tho their grp was pretty similar to colors (im talking abt past as now star plus is way ahead than its competitors)

Originally posted by: Juhi_04

They install meters mostly in those houses where people are not modern or in houses of poor people. They are even given money and told to turn on so and so TV channels at so and so time even if they don't watch. I can't believe more than 50% of urban people watch regressive and sexist shows. Even Online TRPs are tampered. 3 years ago, underrated shows would come in Top 20. But now same shows are coming in Top 20 that comes on TV Top 20. I refuse to believe that people waste their time all day watching these outdated shows online and online don't have TRP meters so its calculated in other ways among more people. Phir Laut Aayi Naagin episodes on You Tube reached as high as 10-50 million views. Then why it was not in Top 20? I don't understand on what basis they count Online TRPs now. Earlier shows that were not even in Top 20 would be in Top with Top 10 shows(except Kapl Sharma and Taarak Mehta) not even Top 20 Online. KKB and KDB would be getting less than 1.0 rating then how they are now getting 30+ rating online? Here too they are cheating.

@bold Btw read below reply carefully.....this is what i replied to aleya in gupta brothers forum when she mentioned abt online trps....as i dont want ppl to blv fake online trps.....hopefully then you will get answer abt term calked online trps

"First let me clear air abt online trp because i dont want ppl to blv that fake online trp or whatever it is

So i want to start with term online trp which is itself wrong "TRP" full form is television rating point which is dedicated for only ratings of show which airs on tv only

Then how can they term it as online trp.....correct term will be online ratings/online viewership/ digital viewership etc.

Second thing is who publishes this data??some famous twitter page named tv serial gossip or something which is famous for tv serial updates who copy paste news from official tv news sites!! They do even have proof that what they publishes in the name of online trp is true?? Is there any official site which backs their claims?? No!! BARC is trp official site who have installed meters in diff cities to measure data!! But on what basis this twitter page posts online trp?? Do they have meters or anything or they just post on the basis of twitter trend/twitter or insta popularity then they are totally wrong because channel or show dont gain anything from this twitter/insta popularity at all

Only if we are watching their shows on their app then only they will gain revenues from advertisers so only viewership on their ott app is important!! But this broadcasters app never ever reveal their apps data like how many views they getting for each show?? Then on what basis this page post data

Before 2-3 yrs BARC india with partnership of neilsen tried to create digital measurement system named EKAM but it failed because google denied to reveal their data (for youtube) every other app gave permission to reveal data except google

so we still dont have any digital measurement system in india

Check this articles
https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/companies/barc-to-provide-digital-measurement-117041000879_1.html

https://bestmediainfo.com/lite/2019/02/commentary-why-is-google-shying-away-from-giving-access-for-content-measurement-to-ekam/

Now i just want to tell how iknw this online trp is fake In 2014-15 there was my one freind who was admin of famous fb page named "TRP of indian serials" who used to post fake online trp!! Actually he was the one who created this online trp term! Back then he used to create online trp with help indian forums chaska meter points so thats how online trp came in limelight.....after 2-3 yrs he stopped posting online trp then other pages started creating their own online trp list nd now it is very famous that even some celebs also reposts it in their own insta story nd fans believes it!! I have seen so many celebs who repost online trp in their insta story.....this is so wrong from their side as they are from industry still they repost it in insta story is just irresponsible behaviour from their side

Sorry for long post but i just dont want people to believe that fake online trp term thats why i made this post"

Todays trp data

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJc6H53h9_E/?igshid=12vr46kdg1ii4

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJc9-50huBe/?igshid=1cbgeotdws4ty

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdAN0FBGww/?igshid=f3qk4oescws3

Remaining trp data

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdApC5BONp/?igshid=155r8yj5yarzo

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdBGlthfrI/?igshid=13t0e807m9oln

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdBdg9h-aq/?igshid=18x8gvheqvdwn

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdB5JzBGqu/?igshid=fmhabgwohde3

Originally posted by: Rajpatil12

Wrong who said they install meters in only poor houses.....installing meter is decided on various factors like economic condition, geographical location etc....first they survey various houses from cities/villages nd ask question if they have 4 wheeler,2 wheeler do they have cars,ac!! how much their annual income is nd only after that they devides meters nd decides to how much meters installed in different tiers.....they devides tiers on the basis of economical conditions nd on basis of india population nd in india they have 4 tiers.....we only get urban data but industry insiders get full data nd in that they to knw that which tiers ppl are watching their shows nd from which tier they dont nd after that only they decides ad slot rates.....nd thats the only reason star plus ad slot rates are much more higher than others as they are more watched in tier 1 nd tier 2 cities even tho their grp was pretty similar to colors (im talking abt past as now star plus is way ahead than its competitors)

It was shown on news channels. I said most of them not all or even a part of them. Okay even if they install in urban and rich houses but how mind set of person is measured. And how 30k families decide what at least 1-2 crores families are watching? I doubt many people in urban families will watch regressive shows but now kids and teenagers turning new viewers of these shows. Who do you think are followers of many overrated actors or who do you think vote for them in awards. In one of people opinion on Telly Chakkar site they asked in 1 audience viewer speak article about 1 track in the show. 1 adult woman said something like they are showing regressive or wrong thing but her own teenage daughter said so and so track is good and supposed to be for entertainment. Another young girl said positive about that topic. Don't remember which show this article was based but I was appalled by views of younger girls. So this is also one of the reasons why wrong shows get high ratings. These viewers are brainwashed due to good looking actors playing arrogant MLs and also they are brainwashed due to Mill&Boon novels and sexist shows from other countries so its not only the fault of aunties which people blame but of mostly youngsters. On MTV and Channel V, why only KYY and Sadda Haq are more famous than other good shows. Simple. Because MLs in both shows were arrogant and sexist while FLs were simple and sweet. In KYY, the channel was Krissann to play Nandini but Vikas Gupta convinced channels to make Niti as Nandini. So Niti got the role of Nandini and Krissann was pushed to 1 of the rich and arrogant female friends of ML. I think it surely happened due to childish and baby doll look of Niti to attract more viewers. Krissann would have been better Nandini as she too can play sweet and innocent girl roles as seen in her other shows.

Originally posted by: Rajpatil12

@bold Btw read below reply carefully.....this is what i replied to aleya in gupta brothers forum when she mentioned abt online trps....as i dont want ppl to blv fake online trps.....hopefully then you will get answer abt term calked online trps

"First let me clear air abt online trp because i dont want ppl to blv that fake online trp or whatever it is

So i want to start with term online trp which is itself wrong "TRP" full form is television rating point which is dedicated for only ratings of show which airs on tv only

Then how can they term it as online trp.....correct term will be online ratings/online viewership/ digital viewership etc.

Second thing is who publishes this data??some famous twitter page named tv serial gossip or something which is famous for tv serial updates who copy paste news from official tv news sites!! They do even have proof that what they publishes in the name of online trp is true?? Is there any official site which backs their claims?? No!! BARC is trp official site who have installed meters in diff cities to measure data!! But on what basis this twitter page posts online trp?? Do they have meters or anything or they just post on the basis of twitter trend/twitter or insta popularity then they are totally wrong because channel or show dont gain anything from this twitter/insta popularity at all

Only if we are watching their shows on their app then only they will gain revenues from advertisers so only viewership on their ott app is important!! But this broadcasters app never ever reveal their apps data like how many views they getting for each show?? Then on what basis this page post data

Before 2-3 yrs BARC india with partnership of neilsen tried to create digital measurement system named EKAM but it failed because google denied to reveal their data (for youtube) every other app gave permission to reveal data except google

so we still dont have any digital measurement system in india

Check this articles
https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/companies/barc-to-provide-digital-measurement-117041000879_1.html

https://bestmediainfo.com/lite/2019/02/commentary-why-is-google-shying-away-from-giving-access-for-content-measurement-to-ekam/

Now i just want to tell how iknw this online trp is fake In 2014-15 there was my one freind who was admin of famous fb page named "TRP of indian serials" who used to post fake online trp!! Actually he was the one who created this online trp term! Back then he used to create online trp with help indian forums chaska meter points so thats how online trp came in limelight.....after 2-3 yrs he stopped posting online trp then other pages started creating their own online trp list nd now it is very famous that even some celebs also reposts it in their own insta story nd fans believes it!! I have seen so many celebs who repost online trp in their insta story.....this is so wrong from their side as they are from industry still they repost it in insta story is just irresponsible behaviour from their side

Sorry for long post but i just dont want people to believe that fake online trp term thats why i made this post"

Glad that at least you understood me and gave me such a big information. But I think till 2-3 years ago, online ratings were right or close to right since shows which were underrated would be in Top 10-20 and Bhagyas would get even below 1.0 then how they are suddenly getting 30+. Do you really think a large part of population will watch nonsense shows on their mobiles instead of watching comedy shows, abroad shows, cartoons, kids shows or sports programmes? Compare the Top 20 online shows of 2017 and top 20 online show of now then people will get the answer.

Originally posted by: Juhi_04

Glad that at least you understood me and gave me such a big information. But I think till 2-3 years ago, online ratings were right or close to right since shows which were underrated would be in Top 10-20 and Bhagyas would get even below 1.0 then how they are suddenly getting 30+. Do you really think a large part of population will watch nonsense shows on their mobiles instead of watching comedy shows, abroad shows, cartoons, kids shows or sports programmes? Compare the Top 20 online shows of 2017 and top 20 online show of now then people will get the answer.

At that time my fb admin freind used to make online trp list based on IF chaska meter points thats why you think it used to be reliable but that was also fake but before 2yrs he stopped making fake online trp data nd others started making their own list thats why so much variation you can see in current online trps nd before 2-3 yrs online trp

Btw to create online trp he used to devide shows chaska meter point by 100....like suppose ib used to get 1100 points then he used to make its online trp as 11.0 lol

Originally posted by: Juhi_04

It was shown on news channels. I said most of them not all or even a part of them. Okay even if they install in urban and rich houses but how mind set of person is measured. And how 30k families decide what at least 1-2 crores families are watching? I doubt many people in urban families will watch regressive shows but now kids and teenagers turning new viewers of these shows. Who do you think are followers of many overrated actors or who do you think vote for them in awards. In one of people opinion on Telly Chakkar site they asked in 1 audience viewer speak article about 1 track in the show. 1 adult woman said something like they are showing regressive or wrong thing but her own teenage daughter said so and so track is good and supposed to be for entertainment. Another young girl said positive about that topic. Don't remember which show this article was based but I was appalled by views of younger girls. So this is also one of the reasons why wrong shows get high ratings. These viewers are brainwashed due to good looking actors playing arrogant MLs and also they are brainwashed due to Mill&Boon novels and sexist shows from other countries so its not only the fault of aunties which people blame but of mostly youngsters. On MTV and Channel V, why only KYY and Sadda Haq are more famous than other good shows. Simple. Because MLs in both shows were arrogant and sexist while FLs were simple and sweet. In KYY, the channel was Krissann to play Nandini but Vikas Gupta convinced channels to make Niti as Nandini. So Niti got the role of Nandini and Krissann was pushed to 1 of the rich and arrogant female friends of ML. I think it surely happened due to childish and baby doll look of Niti to attract more viewers. Krissann would have been better Nandini as she too can play sweet and innocent girl roles as seen in her other shows.

Btw just want to say even tho todays trp is not much accurate but it is closer to accurate

Becoz what ur talking abt urban audience who used to watch quality shows are very very less i guess they dont even form 5-10% of indian population whereas other audience is the one who still watches regressive content.....just remember our indian population is still not developed we are still far away from being progressive nd our audience mindset is like they are still interested in whats happening in other houses, they still gosspis about anyone behind their back nd thats what reflects in trps so i will not blame makers/BARC/Channel but i will only blame audience....we all complaint abt channels as they dont bring good quality content bt where were they when star plus launched quality shows like POW, everest, dahleez,tamanna, dil sambhal ja zara etc...these show hardly got trps above 0.5 even after airing on channel like stat plus whose reach is massive.....if these shows gets these type trp on channel like sony, and tv etc then its ok bt they didnt even get good trps on channel like star plus then we cant blame anyone other than audience

There is only one way to change content is all broadcasters needs to let go their regressive shows nd to make qualitative finite show upto 100-150 epi.....no matter how big hit show becomes they shouldnt stretch it above 150 epi .....then only without option audience have to watch quality show nd slowly slowly their mindset will also change as nobody will change their mindset overnight which is poisoned by itv industry for more than 20yrs

Broadcasters needs to push audience to wall then nd only then they will change their taste abt content

Bt i guess even broadcasters are also not ready to do this hardwork some channel tried like star plus but they failed miserably

https://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/star-plus-woo-viewers-soon-new-show-pandya-store-201231

I guess actors says good things about every show they get. Shiny praised her role in Jamai Raja and her dressing when it was annoying ti watch her acting like crazy in initial days. Makers had to improve her character and modernize her dressing surely due to viewers complaints. During Alif Laila, she accepted it due to various characters she had to play and that show will be closed to her heart. Now for Pandya Stores she is saying she always wanted to do show like this and about her character's sacrifices. Does she even know after kids grow up she will play 35+ role? Kinshuk and Shiny suited to play younger brother and wife roles not the elder ones.