*Discussion Of The Week #7 Suicide In Pakistani Dramas*

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hello everybody.😊


Suicide is one of the most used twists in Pakistani dramas. 🤓 It isn't allowed in Islam. Because our lives aren't belong to us. They belong to Allah the creater, and he is the only one who have the right to take them .


Suicide is being shown as a way to get rid of a pressure, like : forced marriage, failed lovestory, illness, poorness, depression or another psycho ilness, escaping jail , escaping dishonor, or any other reason. Sometimes it comes from nowhere, just because the writer wants to get rid of a character to make the way for leads to unit.😳


So what do you think about dramas normalizing or glorifying suicide ? How can this affect the society? Does it happen in real as much as shown in dramas? What can ppl do in such situations other than it ? Plz , share your viewes , and mention some dramas in which suicides or attempts of suicide happened.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Great topic Awida.

I am strictly against suicide. Not just for religious reasons, but I feel that things can always get better if you have hope; you can't just feel death is the only option. I don't think it's a way to have conclusions or etc in dramas cause there are so many other ways. Divorce. Running away. Leaving the country. Or just, leaving. I think there are some instances where it proves about how mental health is important and if people don't get help it can prove lethal. In that case, sometimes it can prove a point but it must be advised that it should not be the solution, ever. In "Babban Khala Ki Betiyan" I remember the oldest committed suicide because of mental stress because she could not get rishta 😔. It showed the stress of how some girls are targeted because they not married and it gets to them. It proved a social message of sorts. However, I hate when they show things such as glorifying suicide to get your love, such as Sara in "Tera Gham Aur Hum"; she kept threatening Ali with suicide so he ended up marrying her. Like seriously? That's an entirely wrong message. Even "Meherposh" showing Ayat commit suicide was totally unnecessary. It was just to reunite the leads and there are other routes that could have been taken but the writers of that show chose to just rush the end of Ayat. I live in America where suicide is a big issue. Teenagers, adults, it happens here and a lot of people can be saved if they had people who cared or people who ask if they are ok and if another person even shows care, it can potentially save them. I believe in talking to people, and getting help. It can be fixed 😃.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi awida...interesting topic....n much needed...

I dont watch all paki serials but only selected...so dont know how far its being there in dramas and its use.....

But i do feel that...characters doing suicide...just for getting love....in case blackmailing others-parents or other...is all wrong....

In case of mental presurres....it still seems ok...as it leads them to think about it n finally doing it.....also in case of not able to bearing a pain due to health issues.....

Yet people with suicidal tendencies mental illness ka recognition milna zaroori hain.....

But...love ya blackmail ke liye suicides uska asli maqsad kharab karte hain.....also seeing in tv....do effect people.....not only this even hearing or seeing in neigbourhood can also make other do the same....

By the way ....i have done a work on this.....interviewed 50 people....where such cases occured....and based on it my book is published for feb 21 release

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks for the thread@Awida

Suicide is not the solution of the problem. Islam forbids killing self. Pakistan is a Muslim country, and Pakistani dramas are famous all over the world. Pakistani dramas should stop spreading wrong message in the society. I don't understand why Pakistani channels want to promote suicide in the society through their dramas. Don't they know that suicide is forbidden?

I don't know who wrote the story of the drama serial "MTA". What message does he want to send to society?

Lessons: If you love someone, and the person you want to marry is not ready to marry you, suicide ki try karo. If your husband is not ready to forgive you for your mistake, commit suicide like Ulfat. And yes, don't forget to send voicemail to your loved ones before committing suicide that you are going to end your life.

Jalan:Mesha committed suicide when she found out that her husband was cheating on her.Afsand committed suicide When he found out that Neesha did not love him and was cheating on him🤢.

Why don't people think about the people who love them before committing suicide.

There are many occasions in everyone's life when one thinks that death is better than life..We must not despair. After every storm Sun will shine. Everything is temporary. Remember this bad phase too will pass.

Whenever I get depressed, I always look up at the Sky And start taking to Allah.He always listens to me.I always feel better After Talking to Allah.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: azaanabbas

Great topic Awida.

Thank you for joining this discussion Azaan.😃

I am strictly against suicide. Not just for religious reasons, but I feel that things can always get better if you have hope; you can't just feel death is the only option.

Totally agree.

I don't think it's a way to have conclusions or etc in dramas cause there are so many other ways. Divorce. Running away. Leaving the country. Or just, leaving.

Yes. Few dramas take this way when things get complicated , like to escape dishonor a family shifts to another town. Or to get over a heartbreak ppl can find a new job , or leave the country for sometime. It was good in Yaqeen Ka Safar when Sajal left her hpmetown to start a fresh. But sadly she ended up attempting a suicide after she feared that if her lover found out about her past he may hate her!🤓

I think there are some instances where it proves about how mental health is important and if people don't get help it can prove lethal. In that case, sometimes it can prove a point but it must be advised that it should not be the solution, ever. In "Babban Khala Ki Betiyan" I remember the oldest committed suicide because of mental stress because she could not get rishta 😔. It showed the stress of how some girls are targeted because they not married and it gets to them. It proved a social message of sorts.

I understand . Mental health is important. I stopped watching BKKB because of that suicide , it was hurting. In many dramas girls committed suicide because of a heartbreak: In Be Dardi , Aiman's sis killed herself because she discovered that the guy she loved was unfaithfull.😒 Not just girls..even guys were shown committing or attempting suicide for the same reason..In Faryaad Adeel shot homself because his ladylove was getting married to another guy. 😕


However, I hate when they show things such as glorifying suicide to get your love, such as Sara in "Tera Gham Aur Hum"; she kept threatening Ali with suicide so he ended up marrying her. Like seriously? That's an entirely wrong message.


I agree such dramas show that by threating or attemting a suicide may get you what you want. Like in Mohabbat Tujhe Alvida ..Ulfat reterned the love of her husband . SJ was ready to accept Ayat as his wife after the accident (suicide!😕) .

Even "Meherposh" showing Ayat commit suicide was totally unnecessary. It was just to reunite the leads and there are other routes that could have been taken but the writers of that show chose to just rush the end of Ayat. I live in America where suicide is a big issue. Teenagers, adults, it happens here and a lot of people can be saved if they had people who cared or people who ask if they are ok and if another person even shows care, it can potentially save them. I believe in talking to people, and getting help. It can be fixed 😃.

I think in our society we talk a lot. 😆 we have the support of our family.. and our fear of Allah can stop us from killing ourselves. I think suicides are little in our society, but drama makers are making them look like big issue.😔

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Suicide in dramas is a cop out. They use it when they don’t know how to get rid of a character and it shows the writer is stuck and can’t progress properly.

Either it’s someone oppressed and can’t live with life or it’s someone so bad they need to kill themselves as punishment. It’s a quick solution and in no way realistic and people should understand it’s only for drama.

Posted: 4 years ago
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Suicide is the biggest sin and should not be promoted in any way. But then there are also many other things being glorified in dramas like rape, smoking and drinking🤢

Most writers just use the excuse of suicide because they dont know what to do with the character

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Raatri

Hi awida...interesting topic....n much needed...

Hi Raatri .. nice to see you here again.🤗

I dont watch all paki serials but only selected...so dont know how far its being there in dramas and its use.....

It is used heavily .. in this week we had 3 suicides in 3 different dramas: Zebaish , MTA and Meher Posh.

But i do feel that...characters doing suicide...just for getting love....in case blackmailing others-parents or other...is all wrong....

In case of mental presurres....it still seems ok...as it leads them to think about it n finally doing it.....also in case of not able to bearing a pain due to health issues.....

I can still feel for those who commit a suicide for health matters.. because they don't think properly, but can't feel anything for criminals, or losers in love or blackmailers. It is too wrong.

Yet people with suicidal tendencies mental illness ka recognition milna zaroori hain.....

It is important to adress this issue, and help those ppl to get a proper treatment.

But...love ya blackmail ke liye suicides uska asli maqsad kharab karte hain.....also seeing in tv....do effect people.....not only this even hearing or seeing in neigbourhood can also make other do the same....

It scares me to think of it. There are many teenagers who watch dramas, and giving them such ideas can be harmfull.☢️

By the way ....i have done a work on this.....interviewed 50 people....where such cases occured....and based on it my book is published for feb 21 release

This is gr8 . Can I have a summery of it.😳 I am praying for the safety of everybody.😊

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ItsmeSehar

Thanks for the thread@Awida

I am glad that you joined the discussion.😊

Suicide is not the solution of the problem. Islam forbids killing self. Pakistan is a Muslim country, and Pakistani dramas are famous all over the world. Pakistani dramas should stop spreading wrong message in the society. I don't understand why Pakistani channels want to promote suicide in the society through their dramas. Don't they know that suicide is forbidden?

I think it is just for drama. Such twists are used to move the story forward , or gain sympathy like in Jalan. Sometimes it is to finish the drama, with the reunion of the leads and the death of the person who came between them.🤔

I don't know who wrote the story of the drama serial "MTA". What message does he want to send to society?

Lessons: If you love someone, and the person you want to marry is not ready to marry you, suicide ki try karo. If your husband is not ready to forgive you for your mistake, commit suicide like Ulfat. And yes, don't forget to send voicemail to your loved ones before committing suicide that you are going to end your life.

Jalan:Mesha committed suicide when she found out that her husband was cheating on her.Afsand committed suicide When he found out that Neesha did not love him and was cheating on him🤢.

Why don't people think about the people who love them before committing suicide.

It is sad, but true. I think Misha had depression, her mom shouldn't let her alone, she needed to see a psycatrist

There are many occasions in everyone's life when one thinks that death is better than life..We must not despair. After every storm Sun will shine. Everything is temporary. Remember this bad phase too will pass.

Gr8 advice. May Allah keep us safe from bad situations, and from losing hope.😒

Whenever I get depressed, I always look up at the Sky And start taking to Allah.He always listens to me.I always feel better After Talking to Allah.

I read Quraan, or go to sea , or just think of my children's future. 😃 Getting busy , doing something interesting can help too.😊

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Geraldin

Suicide in dramas is a cop out. They use it when they don’t know how to get rid of a character and it shows the writer is stuck and can’t progress properly.

Sometimes they use it in climax, but in some other dramas suicide is shown in the initial episodes like in : Be Dardi , Babban Khala Ki Betiyan , and Log Kia Kahenge, they play a major role in shaping up the story. smiley1

Either it’s someone oppressed and can’t live with life or it’s someone so bad they need to kill themselves as punishment. It’s a quick solution and in no way realistic and people should understand it’s only for drama.

Yes. Suicides in the end come as punishment for bad characters . Like in : Khaali Haath , and Muqabil. But it irks me when they are glorified, like Ayza's suicide in Mohabbat Tumse Nafrat Hai where it was her way to avenge Imran .smiley3

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