Re-living YRHPK journey // Episodic Discussion Thread 3 - Page 35

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hello guys what's up ...though I don't participate because of insufficient time on hand to either watch the episode or write but I do go through the thread at times and enjoy the discussions 😆😃

I just want to ask one thing because this one absolutely contradicts to my views so I just want to know the reason 😆 Why do you guys feel that abir is solely responsible for the mess ? Previously also I reas these statements but I didn't bother to ask 😆

As far as I observed BM meenu mishti and kunal are at bigger faults in rishta thing....abir comes quite later for the game of faults 😆...even in the break up thing, abir isn't entirely at fault all by himself , what about meenu who pressurised him ? What about the big secret? What about mishti's innumerable lies on baba that kept abir in a very dark situation till the end ?

...abir comes quite later ...how is abir solely responsible? 😆 also what happens to BP's big big batein when he says hume koi farak nahi padta zamana kya sochta hai hamare bachhi ke baare mein but a wrong misinterpretation of the photo gets them enough pressurised to say yes for the rishta 😆 the more I think the more I find massive loopholes in the story which were placed out of convenience 😆😈

Also not just you guys ..I have seen it in general discussions also ...

When mishti gets pressurised to take a wrong decision - omg poor girl she is pressurised to take this decision....what else can she do

When abir gets pressurised to take a wrong decision - oh he tortured mishti all by himself , he deserves that huh !😡

I won't write anything further , the lines speak for itself 😆 I also feel makers are more responsible here because they didn't highlight abir's emotions and situations as deeply as mishti's?

Sorry folks don't take it in a wrong way ...sometimes certain statements hurt the abir fan in me 😆 And I honestly want to know why is abir solely responsible for the mess ?

Bold 1: Because the Mishnal Rishta talks had stopped right at Meenu’s Rishta swap from Kuhu to Mishti, the Maheshwaris were really hurt and angry. If Abir had not staged Kunal’s hospital rescue mission, if Abir had not fooled Mishti and the Mahs into believing Kunal had rescued Mishti and carried her to the hospital to prove his Nanko is such a good boy, then neither BM nor any of the maheshwaris would even consider Kunal’s Rishta talks with Mishti or accept it!

So yes, Abir started the whole mess!

And after Mishti’s courtship demand, Abir fooled her throughout into believing Kunal was doing all those romantic gestures for her. He planned their dates, actively helped Kunal to court her sending flowers, poems on Kunal’s behalf, lying to Mishti that Kunal sent her khichdi and rose pak to make up for his bad behavior...and Mishti believed Abir because he was her friend. Abir betrayed his friend’s trust. He admitted it himself to her after the GD broke, didn’t he?.

Mishti hid Baba’s truth from him because she didn’t want to hurt him or lose him (in case he didn’t believe her) before she had all the proofs. Abir understood that the day after, because he didn’t believe Meenu when she tried to accuse Mishti of hiding Baba’s truths. Mishti only hid that truth for a day at Meenu’s request, she got manipulated by Meenu just as Abir was!
Bold 2: Abir getting blackmailed by Meenu worked because of his love for Kunal. Nanko was always his first priority, his first child, so he gave up Mishti for Kunal’s sake then. And also later he got mad and didn’t reunite with Mishti, after she told Kunal his birth truth. So both times Abir dumped Mishti for Kunal’s sake.
Did Abir even ask Mishti how she came to know Kunal’s birth truth? He was too furious to listen to her reasons and explanations. Whereas Mishti always gave him a chance to speak even when she was angry and hurt!
Meenu manipulated both Mishbir but its Abir who brutally broke her heart, she didn’t leave him, he left her. And No, Mishti didn’t break up with him before going to Mumbai on Kuku’s wedding nor did she tell him she didn’t love him. In fact she went to RJV to see him one last time and even called out after him. But Abir’s ESP about Mishti wasn’t that strong, he neither felt her presence nor heard her call out.

Underline: Yes, Mishti is considered a poor girl, a bechari because of 2 reasons:

1) Her family situation. She’s a foster child, sheltered by the Mahs, she feels obligated and grateful to them. She cannot go against their wishes and ignore their expectations from her. Whereas RJVs are Abir’s own family, Meenu is his own mother, he can get mad at them, blast them, leave home in anger or disagreement. Mishti cannot udd chala like him.
2) Mishti is a girl in a traditional family, she cannot oppose her family, she has to consider their izzat, their social standing, their reputation. As a guy Abir doesn’t have those problems.
At the end of the day, it’s all the fault of scriptwriters that they made the characters act and behave in the way they did. We can only analyze the characters’ motivations and actions.
We all love both Abir and Mishti inspite of their faults and drawbacks. So you don’t have to feel bad when we criticize him and sympathize with Mishti. I’m sure you have seen us praise Abir’s words and actions too as well as drool over him 😆
Truth is Kunal was always Abir’s top priority and it remained that way (and caused him to repeatedly hurt Mishti) until the fag end of the show, when he finally makes Mishti his priority as his wife and mother of his child! ❤️

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Bold 1: Because the Mishnal Rishta talks had stopped right at Meenu’s Rishta swap from Kuhu to Mishti, the Maheshwaris were really hurt and angry. If Abir had not staged Kunal’s hospital rescue mission, if Abir had not fooled Mishti and the Mahs into believing Kunal had rescued Mishti and carried her to the hospital to prove his Nanko is such a good boy, then neither BM nor any of the maheshwaris would even consider Kunal’s Rishta talks with Mishti or accept it!

So yes, Abir started the whole mess!

And after Mishti’s courtship demand, Abir fooled her throughout into believing Kunal was doing all those romantic gestures for her. He planned their dates, actively helped Kunal to court her sending flowers, poems on Kunal’s behalf, lying to Mishti that Kunal sent her khichdi and rose pak to make up for his bad behavior...and Mishti believed Abir because he was her friend. Abir betrayed his friend’s trust. He admitted it himself to her after the GD broke, didn’t he?.

Mishti hid Baba’s truth from him because she didn’t want to hurt him or lose him (in case he didn’t believe her) before she had all the proofs. Abir understood that the day after, because he didn’t believe Meenu when she tried to accuse Mishti of hiding Baba’s truths. Mishti only hid that truth for a day at Meenu’s request, she got manipulated by Meenu just as Abir was!
Bold 2: Abir getting blackmailed by Meenu worked because of his love for Kunal. Nanko was always his first priority, his first child, so he gave up Mishti for Kunal’s sake then. And also later he got mad and didn’t reunite with Mishti, after she told Kunal his birth truth. So both times Abir dumped Mishti for Kunal’s sake.
Did Abir even ask Mishti how she came to know Kunal’s birth truth? He was too furious to listen to her reasons and explanations. Whereas Mishti always gave him a chance to speak even when she was angry and hurt!
Meenu manipulated both Mishbir but its Abir who brutally broke her heart, she didn’t leave him, he left her. And No, Mishti didn’t break up with him before going to Mumbai on Kuku’s wedding nor did she tell him she didn’t love him. In fact she went to RJV to see him one last time and even called out after him. But Abir’s ESP about Mishti wasn’t that strong, he neither felt her presence nor heard her call out.

Underline: Yes, Mishti is considered a poor girl, a bechari because of 2 reasons:

1) Her family situation. She’s a foster child, sheltered by the Mahs, she feels obligated and grateful to them. She cannot go against their wishes and ignore their expectations from her. Whereas RJVs are Abir’s own family, Meenu is his own mother, he can get mad at them, blast them, leave home in anger or disagreement. Mishti cannot udd chala like him.
2) Mishti is a girl in a traditional family, she cannot oppose her family, she has to consider their izzat, their social standing, their reputation. As a guy Abir doesn’t have those problems.
At the end of the day, it’s all the fault of scriptwriters that they made the characters act and behave in the way they did. We can only analyze the characters’ motivations and actions.
We all love both Abir and Mishti inspite of their faults and drawbacks. So you don’t have to feel bad when we criticize him and sympathize with Mishti. I’m sure you have seen us praise Abir’s words and actions too as well as drool over him 😆
Truth is Kunal was always Abir’s top priority and it remained that way (and caused him to repeatedly hurt Mishti) until the fag end of the show, when he finally makes Mishti his priority as his wife and mother of his child! ❤️

Fact checks 😃

1. I am not hurt or feeling bad cuz u guys criticised abir ...even I do that at times ...I am just surprised to see abir's mistakes are judged way too harshly as compared to mishti ..like how you said mishti hid baba's truth for a day ...let me correct this , the truth was hidden for days from abir , not just one day 😆 Also how foolish was mishti to believe meenu and go to rajgadh on her advice...also this is not the first time she was manipulated by meenu ...she got manipulated by meenu on kuhu's wedding also ( 😆.didn't really bother to inform abir at once ? Has abir asked for any proofs before believing her ...arey abir immediately believed her on ved thing also ...I am sorry he would have given a thought at least, it wasn't like abir wouldn't believe her without proofs 😳And this is what mu point is ...when it comes to mishti, you have a lamba chauda explanation and justification for her mistakes... which is not wrong...she has her reaosns to be so and so does.abir ...then why blaming just one person when he got manipulated by meenu ( for breakup ) and give justification for mishti when she gets manipulated by meenu...( to sacrifice abir for kuhu's wedding and later on baba thing )

On the contary , when it comes to abir , there is hardly any understanding and only blames and a simple statement like oh he left her for kunal ... don't you feel there is some underplay when it comes to understanding reasons behind abir's actions then ?😳

my only arguement , why is there understanding when it comes to mishti's mistakes and blames for abir's mistakes 😆 Love both them understand both and criticise both 😆 but then again it's your call ...I am sorry for raising the question

yes I always seen u just praise abir and drool over him...but can't be sure if u really understood those actions that way... I don't blame u much 😆 And makers also didn't do any justice when it comes to abir's side of emotions....it was technically mishti's story so naturally her set of emotions will have a better exposure

2. courtship - I refuse to believe that abir started all the mess...meenu didn't put the full stop on the rishta that day...I can pinpoint a lot of things here about other characters and how the mess was created but your post clearly gives me a vibe that you won't agree so I wont waste my time either to each it's own but my simple point is abir is not solely responsible for it...also whole saving mishti part was not to put kunal on a good light and make BM accept kunal ..yes later on he did help kunal, which he shouldn't have.

3. Also mishti's never informed kunal's birth truth to abir, didn't even think of doing that ...she told the truth to kunal in anger and later realised what blunder she committed ...let's not ignore what happened that day...kunal almost went on committing suicide , even abir was wondering if mishti knew everything, why didn't she inform before , he was also disturbed with a lot of things...

so yes if abir did mistake, mishti did too ...the whole jealousy drama backfired on her more than anyone ...but I wouldn't write that I got sadistic pleasure seeing her suffering and she deserved it for trusting meenu over abir twice and making a stupid plan with her equally stupid friend 🤓😳 Ouch!

4. Also thank you for the 2 pointers on why mishti is considered a poor girl , she surely was for the more part and I agree which is why I undestand her more than criticising her ( the forum is filled with my posts on mishti to support this 😃) but I definitely don't agree that abir was okay because oh well he can just blast on meenu and udd chala and he wasn't at troubles and his priority was kunal and later on mishti and hola life was pretty much sorted for him otherwise 😆.. because if this is what you conclude for abir from the whole series....then probably we have a different school of thoughts and foundation itself for abir ...and I would like to leave it at that only and won't say anything further...🤗🤗 abir was so much more than this according to me ...this is not even a tip to what I feel he was.

I used to have a few discussions with you before also when the show was going on and that time also I felt we had very different understanding when it comes to abir..

..so never mind 😃

😊

Originally posted by: Sumaiya27

Hi Uru, welcome back 🤗Thank you for raising these valid questions!

I hold abir responsible for starting and continuing this mishnal courtship mess because he forced them together from day one by giving kunal the credit for saving mishti from naman which started the series of events that convinced BM about kunal being perfect for mishti. Then Abir consistantly giving proxy for kunal during the courtship further convinced mishti that kunal is probably the right guy. Watching Abir heartbroken during the courtship is extremely hard for me to watch that's why I'm even more upset with him for creating this mess.

And about BP-BM: their thoughts and ideals change frequently based on writer's convenience. But, I also hold them responsible, especially BM for putting so much pressure on mishti during the courtship track. However Abir is the one that started it all (meenu doesn't count here because she is always stirring shit up)

I don't hold abir solely responsible for break-up, his major fault there was not communicating his dilemma with Mishti when meenu blackmailed him and later not listening to mishti after she revealed kunal's birth truth

I'm a huge Abir fan too (more than mishti's) so I take all his mistakes/wrong decisions personally as I want him to be perfect (although I know it's not possible 😆). You can also say I've more expectations from Abir that's why I criticize him more than any other character

Hey sum thanks for responding 🤗🤗 Also congrats for being a dazzler ...😊

I agree with you on lot of points and thank you for explaining them so nicely. 👍🏼

Yes yes I completely understand why we have better set of expectations from abir ...and the extra criticisms from that also ...👍🏼

Yeah abir was responsible for giving a "cleaner" image of kunal in front of mishti but my point was only abir can't be held responsible for this all alone ..I was just trying to make that point ...now again it's on perspectives and I find other characters being at extra fault than him...BM for being almost obsessed with kunal for saving mishti 😆 Mishti for. actually saying yes to courtship and then not noticing the very evident red flags beyond balloons shayaris etc etc...kunal for absolutely taking no interest , meenu ( I don't need to explain why 😆 ) and a confused abir putting tadka to all this and confusing them all...so yeah I understand he is also responsible but not completely and that was my point ..also I am not sure he hid the mishti saving part so that mishnal rishta get fixed? Is it ? I don't clearly remember that's why I am asking 😆

Rest of the things I agree and I guess I understood the bottom line here ...the love for the character was more may be that's why the expectations and criticisms are also more ...👍🏼😳

For me both were same 😆 Even though abir's character gives me a better connect ...but when it comes to understanding and criticising...maine dono ka kar deti hun...😛 😆 My fav line in the forum was...mishbir have a massive problem with miscommunication or no communication for xyz reasons and a lack of team work is what is responsible for the major problems in their journey !! Otherwise they both are equally emotional, intelligent, loving , understanding ..and.a.similar.set of.mistakes ...*hiding facts from each other *... and not trusting each other enough at difficult times is what makes them fall !

Haha again long post 😆 Sorry for the essay ...I mean I just end up writing so much in one go ...I don't even know If it is making some sense 😱😱😱

Break up ka discussion chal raha hain toh i give my little bit of gyaan 🤭🤭

1. First thing, I adored abt mishti was when she came to know about baba's truth she called up abir ( very rare in itv where dey actually use d mobile phn) . Her bad luck, it was baba who took d call.

2. D sensitivity she showed towards meenu, she knew how embarrassing it would be for meenu, if mishti talked about her husband marriage n second son. She decided to not tell about kunal n dan when everyone asking her to go to rajvansh house to stay beside them, her refusing to go there understanding how such personal matter to be nly within family members .

3. Agree or not, I somehow understood meenu's character in dat blackmail. She was not wrong. She somehow was threatened by mishti. If dis girl would search so much abt mehul she could definitely come to know about meenu illegitimate marriage n it was actually abir who is d najaaz not kunal. It would effect her n abir. She did dat keeping in mind abt abir's future.

4. Abir was ryt in choosing kunal over mishti. He knew mishti only for few months but he literally raised kunal. For kunal, abir is his entire world. He was correct

5. Mishti was wrong in placing abir over her self respect. He rejected her twice, she should huv taken dat answer as final.

6. Nishant was totally wrong, he may had feelings for mishti but he saw how much she was trying to get back to abir even begging to bade papa for a chance. Later agreeing to do what bade papa was telling her to do. He would huv definitely back off. Mishti cleared him dat she was trying to move on but clearly he saw she isn't able to move on.

7. Mishti was wrong in running away from her shaadi. She left her foster parents for abir. How many months did she know abir??? Did he become so important Dan her bp n bm.

Literally leaving them to face an embarrassment. I would never support her.

Haila, ye idhar kya garma garam charcha chal rahi hain? 😲 bole toh weekend special ? 😈*me goes to read again* 😎

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Fact checks 😃

1. I am not hurt or feeling bad cuz u guys criticised abir ...even I do that at times ...I am just surprised to see abir's mistakes are judged way too harshly as compared to mishti ..like how you said mishti hid baba's truth for a day ...let me correct this , the truth was hidden for days from abir , not just one day 😆 Also how foolish was mishti to believe meenu and go to rajgadh on her advice...also this is not the first time she was manipulated by meenu ...she got manipulated by meenu on kuhu's wedding also ( 😆.didn't really bother to inform abir at once ? Has abir asked for any proofs before believing her ...arey abir immediately believed her on ved thing also ...I am sorry he would have given a thought at least, it wasn't like abir wouldn't believe her without proofs 😳And this is what mu point is ...when it comes to mishti, you have a lamba chauda explanation and justification for her mistakes... which is not wrong...she has her reaosns to be so and so does.abir ...then why blaming just one person when he got manipulated by meenu ( for breakup ) and give justification for mishti when she gets manipulated by meenu...( to sacrifice abir for kuhu's wedding and later on baba thing )

On the contary , when it comes to abir , there is hardly any understanding and only blames and a simple statement like oh he left her for kunal ... don't you feel there is some underplay when it comes to understanding reasons behind abir's actions then ?😳

my only arguement , why is there understanding when it comes to mishti's mistakes and blames for abir's mistakes 😆 Love both them understand both and criticise both 😆 but then again it's your call ...I am sorry for raising the question

yes I always seen u just praise abir and drool over him...but can't be sure if u really understood those actions that way... I don't blame u much 😆 And makers also didn't do any justice when it comes to abir's side of emotions....it was technically mishti's story so naturally her set of emotions will have a better exposure

2. courtship - I refuse to believe that abir started all the mess...meenu didn't put the full stop on the rishta that day...I can pinpoint a lot of things here about other characters and how the mess was created but your post clearly gives me a vibe that you won't agree so I wont waste my time either to each it's own but my simple point is abir is not solely responsible for it...also whole saving mishti part was not to put kunal on a good light and make BM accept kunal ..yes later on he did help kunal, which he shouldn't have.

3. Also mishti's never informed kunal's birth truth to abir, didn't even think of doing that ...she told the truth to kunal in anger and later realised what blunder she committed ...let's not ignore what happened that day...kunal almost went on committing suicide , even abir was wondering if mishti knew everything, why didn't she inform before , he was also disturbed with a lot of things...

so yes if abir did mistake, mishti did too ...the whole jealousy drama backfired on her more than anyone ...but I wouldn't write that I got sadistic pleasure seeing her suffering and she deserved it for trusting meenu over abir twice and making a stupid plan with her equally stupid friend 🤓😳 Ouch!

4. Also thank you for the 2 pointers on why mishti is considered a poor girl , she surely was for the more part and I agree which is why I undestand her more than criticising her ( the forum is filled with my posts on mishti to support this 😃) but I definitely don't agree that abir was okay because oh well he can just blast on meenu and udd chala and he wasn't at troubles and his priority was kunal and later on mishti and hola life was pretty much sorted for him otherwise 😆.. because if this is what you conclude for abir from the whole series....then probably we have a different school of thoughts and foundation itself for abir ...and I would like to leave it at that only and won't say anything further...🤗🤗 abir was so much more than this according to me ...this is not even a tip to what I feel he was.

I used to have a few discussions with you before also when the show was going on and that time also I felt we had very different understanding when it comes to abir..

..so never mind 😃

😊

Bold: Didn’t Mishti learn Baba’s entire truth on her GD day? Later that day Baba was exposed and Abir comes to know his truth. The very next day he breaks up with Mishti. So Mishti hid the truth for just one day and that too at Meenu’s request. She had called Abir to tell him from Rajgarh (Pooja pointed that out) but unfortunately Baba picked up the call. So Mishti’s intention was there to tell him but she got too late. Anyway that wasn’t why Abir dumped her so it’s a moot point.

Whereas Abir didn’t even tell Mishti about Meenu’s blackmail until much later when Kunal suggests on Nishmish mehendi day. After all the hurt and anguish he had already caused Mishti for 4 months!

Abir stops from telling her everytime because he remembers Meenu’s threats about Kunal. So Yes, Abir dumped Mishti twice for Kunal! Which is understandable because Kunal is his first child, his responsibility!
Bold/italics: Mishti also trusted Abir implicitly, more than herself as she told him. She trusted him during Mishnal courtship which is why she was so hurt because he lied and pretended to her throughout.

When did Mishti sacrifice Abir for Baba? 😕 And she didn’t sacrifice him for KuKu wedding, she was leaving the city for her family, she never told Abir she was leaving him. Again remember she went to see him before leaving and called out after him but he didn’t hear. Would she have left him forever? If Abir went to Mumbai after her would she reject him even after KuKu wedding was done? Then she wouldn’t have returned to him at the airport or confessed her love right after KuKu wedding. She was just waiting for KuKu wedding to be over without Meenu making trouble because of her!

Underline: Of course Mishti was a fool to take Nishant’s stupid advice to pretend to be his girlfriend and make Abir jealous! That whole jealousy plan was nonsensical and also kind of creepy because Nishant was her cousin too through her foster parents, I never supported her on that. But yes, Abir deserved to suffer and regret his cruelty towards her ( Pushing her away, not listening to her about Kunal spiking Nannu’s drink)

She deserved at least one chance to say her side but Abir was blinded by fury again because of Kunal. So Abir has the right to get mad about Kunal getting hurt but Mishti cannot get mad about Nannu almost dying?

CVs got sadistic pleasure making Mishti suffer throughout the show, even after her marriage with the love of her life, she still suffered because of Meenu and Kuhu and also with Abir blaming her for MishKu fights and expecting her to always adjust and compromise!

I understand Abir’s psychology as well why he did that, why he was so apprehensive about Meenu trying to use MishKu fights against them, But he didn’t deal with it the right way!

As for Mishnal Rishta misunderstandings Abir was responsible for creating most of it! Even he admitted it and apologized to Mishti many times.

TV show Writers use miscommunication and lack of communication all the time to create drama so characters are at the mercy of the writers. So no use taking it so seriously, we mostly jest about these things. Now that the show is over we can look back and joke and judge the characters as we feel about them.

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hey sum thanks for responding 🤗🤗 Also congrats for being a dazzler ...😊

I agree with you on lot of points and thank you for explaining them so nicely. 👍🏼

Yes yes I completely understand why we have better set of expectations from abir ...and the extra criticisms from that also ...👍🏼

Yeah abir was responsible for giving a "cleaner" image of kunal in front of mishti but my point was only abir can't be held responsible for this all alone ..I was just trying to make that point ...now again it's on perspectives and I find other characters being at extra fault than him...BM for being almost obsessed with kunal for saving mishti 😆 Mishti for. actually saying yes to courtship and then not noticing the very evident red flags beyond balloons shayaris etc etc...kunal for absolutely taking no interest , meenu ( I don't need to explain why 😆 ) and a confused abir putting tadka to all this and confusing them all...so yeah I understand he is also responsible but not completely and that was my point ..also I am not sure he hid the mishti saving part so that mishnal rishta get fixed? Is it ? I don't clearly remember that's why I am asking 😆

Rest of the things I agree and I guess I understood the bottom line here ...the love for the character was more may be that's why the expectations and criticisms are also more ...👍🏼😳

For me both were same 😆 Even though abir's character gives me a better connect ...but when it comes to understanding and criticising...maine dono ka kar deti hun...😛 😆 My fav line in the forum was...mishbir have a massive problem with miscommunication or no communication for xyz reasons and a lack of team work is what is responsible for the major problems in their journey !! Otherwise they both are equally emotional, intelligent, loving , understanding ..and.a.similar.set of.mistakes ...*hiding facts from each other *... and not trusting each other enough at difficult times is what makes them fall !

Haha again long post 😆 Sorry for the essay ...I mean I just end up writing so much in one go ...I don't even know If it is making some sense 😱😱😱

Thank you so much Uru 🤗

BM's obsession with making mishti's future husband her bodyguard to save her from naman was definitely OTT and I also didn't like the way she tried to convince mishti to drop the idea of courtship.

Mishti's complete blind eye to the numerous red flags was annoying or rather shocking considering how she's known to analyze all pros and cons before taking decisions

About Abir intentions behind hiding who saved mishti from naman: I think he wanted to clear kunal's image infront of mah family but I'm not sure if it was to convince them for mishnal rishta or something else

My connection with mishti and abir is different but Idk how to describe it using words. Anyway thank you for sharing your thoughts, hopefully I will be able to see things from Abir's POV more and understand the motivations behind his actions better!

Bold: I love this bit..it shows the essence of mishbir but I think mishbir have shown a lot more communication and trust than any other ITV couples. Yes, they had minor mu, have tried to sacrifice their love for family but never hated or mistrusted each other

Please don't apologize for the essays, I love reading your take on the show 😃

Originally posted by: m4manju

Haila, ye idhar kya garma garam charcha chal rahi hain? 😲 bole toh weekend special ? 😈*me goes to read again* 😎

Finally you're here..you are definitely missing out 😆

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hello guys what's up ...though I don't participate because of insufficient time on hand to either watch the episode or write but I do go through the thread at times and enjoy the discussions 😆😃

I just want to ask one thing because this one absolutely contradicts to my views so I just want to know the reason 😆 Why do you guys feel that abir is solely responsible for the mess ? Previously also I reas these statements but I didn't bother to ask 😆

As far as I observed BM meenu mishti and kunal are at bigger faults in rishta thing....abir comes quite later for the game of faults 😆...even in the break up thing, abir isn't entirely at fault all by himself , what about meenu who pressurised him ? What about the big secret? What about mishti's innumerable lies on baba that kept abir in a very dark situation till the end ?

...abir comes quite later ...how is abir solely responsible? 😆 also what happens to BP's big big batein when he says hume koi farak nahi padta zamana kya sochta hai hamare bachhi ke baare mein but a wrong misinterpretation of the photo gets them enough pressurised to say yes for the rishta 😆 the more I think the more I find massive loopholes in the story which were placed out of convenience 😆😈

Also not just you guys ..I have seen it in general discussions also ...

When mishti gets pressurised to take a wrong decision - omg poor girl she is pressurised to take this decision....what else can she do

When abir gets pressurised to take a wrong decision - oh he tortured mishti all by himself , he deserves that huh !😡

I won't write anything further , the lines speak for itself 😆 I also feel makers are more responsible here because they didn't highlight abir's emotions and situations as deeply as mishti's?

Sorry folks don't take it in a wrong way ...sometimes certain statements hurt the abir fan in me 😆 And I honestly want to know why is abir solely responsible for the mess ?

Kaisi baat kar rahi hain Uru ji? If we can't put forwrd and appreciate each other's points of views then kahe ka forum? 😃

Ok to begin with, when i am rewatching the series, I am trying to watch with a clean slate, i.e. forget as much as I can what happend in future episodes. So in the current scenario, I see abir almost pushed mishnal together despite none of them being in love or anything. He still continued it. I take it writers' issue that they messed it up, they shouldn't have gone with rishta swap AND courtship idea together. That math didnt turn out good.

And now, if I want to *not clean* my slate and remember the breakup episodes or even few next ones, I do consider Abir's treatment towards mishti really horrible. The manhandling he did at the lakeside (I still can't watch that scene without flinching), the way he snatched that necklace/pendent was not forgivable. I do not endorse these manhandling acts and dont find them romantic and like someone pointed, she should have not come back after that. letting ppl walk all over her self respect. That was also not correct on her part, and trust me, i will critisize her as much that time. We need to teach girls better than that. So yeah, he and even meenu for that matter needed BIG redemption. 👍🏼

And then after marriage also, he abandoned her in the resort knowing well she had abandonment issues. God forbid, what if something really terrible had happened to her? Or are we gonna say she is a big girl she can take care of herself? People with mental stress and history like that need to be dealt with care not by invoking their fears. Same happened after PTSD too, when she was made to ammend her ways with kuhu by him. Anyway, you get the gist.

So yeah, when we will get there, we will critisize each character based on their behavior that time but for now, its mostly coming from current situation where they are in. And Abir is very much our ladla, aankho ka tara as much as mishti is so ye ussi haq se bhi aa raha hain :)

Originally posted by: Sumaiya27

Finally you're here..you are definitely missing out 😆

hehe yeah, woke up VERY late and just had lunch before it became dinner time 🤣

I went through all the posts. Nice thoughts by everyone 👍🏼 I just posted my couple of cents 😆