Values shouldn't change no matter the person- Page 2

Originally posted by: Roudy1

Great Post 👍🏼

It is something I too have noticed several times and today it was clearly proved by the writers that there is no difference in riddhima and vansh. Only their ideologies differ other than that they are in deed a very katranak couple, I can imagine fireworks exploding the day when these two team up 😆

Thank you so much for your reply.

I do agree that as a couple (truly, a couple, who have full faith in each other) they have lots of potential. Riddhima has shown that she has lots of guts and ingenuity. Vansh till now is any enigma, at least for me, but he does possess lots of hidden talents (as he keeps on saying and displaying both).

Originally posted by: determination

Thank you so much for your reply.

I actually agree with your point to a large extent. It made me think whether Vansh also felt bad about paralyzing Riddhima (he for sure hasn't regretted his action)...it was definitely his last resort in that situation.

I even tried to determine whether Riddhima regrets her action. Does regret mean we won't do the same thing if we are put in a similar position? For me it does. I'm sure Riddhima will not stop from knocking out another bystander temporarily if she thought her intention was bonafide and just. It's just another food for thought.

Thank you so much to all who've liked or replied to the original post. I do appreciate your viewpoints (even if they are different to mine as they make me think further). Anyone I've not replied to individually, I'm sorry. I'm feeling a bit sleepy. I'll try to reply later on today (going by IST).

I really appreciate your insightful and I thoughtful post.

Originally posted by: masked

I don't know if Ridzi & Vansh can be measured on the same level as per your post.Whether as a neutral viewer or let's say another kind of viewer(for/against) whatever Vansh does or whatever even Ridzi did today can be said to be either right or wrong depending on the situation at hand.

Ridzi if u can remember & watched the recent episodes was ready to move on ahead in her life with Vansh.Infact perhaps she has started loving Vansh but was Vansh clear regarding Ragini's truth?Agreed perhaps hitting that Nurse or Aangre would not look right but what do u expect her to do? Protest or sit on a fast to protect Ragini.Ridzi had tried to tell about her spy truth twice to Vansh floored by his concern for her since she started trusting him but it was Vansh who silenced her with his over-arching love then.

Why is Vansh's feelings so fickle when it comes to Ridzi? If Ridzi chose Kabir today-Farz over Pyaar then she alone cannot be blamed for the same.Vansh inspite of being the Mastermind could not figure out D Souza's death and accepted the fake medical reports provided by his evil foster mom Anupriya readily.

Since the say Ridzi entered VR's house there have been one after another attacks on her.Whom should we blame-circumstances or Ridzi gullibleness that she accepted this mission in the first place without thinking?

Kabir is a manipulator & he will manipulate Ridzi till Vansh continues to be this stubborn cold-hearted Mafia.Today also when push comes to shove Ridzi has proved that her brain can work too against the Mastermind specially that pouring that sugar in the petrol/diesel-tank of VR's car or getting Ragini out safely with the assistance of that snake Kabir.

Vansh could never find out who or what caused these attacks on his wife inspite of promising to find out the perpetrators? His threats have been empty rhetoric to say the least.Whether it was Aryan or Anu anybody could come into the VR Mansion & hurt Ridzi as per their own convenience huh.

Vansh readily forgets when hurting Ridzi with that Paralyzing Serum or while throwing her into the grave that she is his damn wife.I understand that Ridzi has blinkers on her eyes & only sees one side of the person with respect to anybody whether its Vansh or Kabir.But has Vansh made any serious attempts to accept Ridzi as his own mate?

No being the Mafia he prefers to stay away from her scared of the past betrayals of Ragini & falsely assuming that staying away from her would protect Ridzi whereas the reverse thing happens-Ridzi gets hurt.

If Ridzi is unable to figure out the things then she will go to only one ally she trusts-that fake Kabir bcoz every family member with the exception of Daadi & Siya despise her presence.Vansh cannot leave her in the lurch like this bcoz he married her & both of them whether they wanna admit or not are bind in a married relationship.

I have no issues with Vansh being the Mastermind bcoz that's what we all love to see but let him be the Mastermind for others not for her.

But I have more points to add. It isn't totally vansh's fault or totally riddhima's fault. It's completely RiAnsh fault

1. If (IF) riddhima didn't spy on him behind his back, instigated him by saying ragini's name, accused him of being a monster vansh shouldn't have done the paralysis thing (again, not justifying😆)
2. If (IF) vansh hasn't instigated riddhu by saying I'll finish her chapter and many code(vansh) words riddhu shouldn't have done the scientific experiment (totally justifying this😆)

Call me sadist but I'm totally enjoying, them giving shocks to each other. Dono ek dusre ko kuch zyada hi underestimate karte hai😆

Originally posted by: Muskie

bold- I think he did. I got it by the tone he said good morning, tried to help her and served her tea ( no where I'm justifying his act)

And I was almost on the verge on logging off (to go and have a nap). Your two posts brought me back. Thank you for your replies. I'll try to reply to the other post soon).

You may be right. Vansh might have felt that "desperate times call for desperate actions" (his view, not mine)...but, he may have felt remorseful. I don't know. Personally, I find both Rrahul and Helly (and Vishal too) to be very powerful actors and wonder sometimes whether they end up emoting some of their personal feelings regarding the situation.

I've known all the 3 leads from their previous shows - have followed Rrahul in Rajaa Betaa (though haven't watched his works in the web series platform), Helly in Swaragini and Sufiyaana Pyaar Mera and Vishal in Jai Kanhaiya Lal Ki and so I recognise that all three can emote a lot through their eyes. Helly as Riddhima has more scope to portray different emotions...with Vansh, I think, it's all about subtlety of expressions and in my view he (like Helly and Vishal) nails it.

Sorry for going a bit off topic in the later part of my reply. Just couldn't stop myself from gushing about their acting.

Valid points stated👍🏼

Both are extreme characters... Both would go to any extent to do what they feel right.

I am not at all surprised since the last few episodes about whatever is happening. Both are equally at fault, mistrusting each other and ending up hurting each other.

Vansh after watching the car-trunk footage dint see left or right, dint even ask her about what actually happened and immediately decided that She was betraying him.

Ridhhima too made her own assumptions based on half-truth and decided that he was a monster and that she fell for the wrong person.

Neither confessed their secrets to each other.

And then, BAAM!! Vansh confirmed her worst suspicions with his behavior by numbing her. He knowingly provoked her by challenging her. He is making her to believe that he is gonna kill Ragini with his twisted mind games. He is only proving himself wrong with all these acts. He is seemingly stoping her and protecting his wife from something dangerous but using a wrong path.

Ridhhima too dint chose to analyse things for a second and assumed that her husband is gonna murder an innocent girl and hence took Kabir's help, the person she thinks to be an honest police officer. People might be annoyed with today's scene where Ridhhima was hallucinating Vansh and Kabir.....but in my honest opinion, the scene clearly showed her dilemma of chosing between duty and love. Any normal person in her place would have done what she did today. According to her she saved Ragini and at the same time, prevented her husband from committing a crime.

And now if suppose anything happens to Ragini, both would be equally responsible for that.

Both are equally losing each other in the name of secrets, mission and games.

Originally posted by: determination

And I was almost on the verge on logging off (to go and have a nap). Your two posts brought me back. Thank you for your replies. I'll try to reply to the other post soon).

So sorry that you had to postpone your nap because of me😆

You are welcome🤗

You may be right. Vansh might have felt that "desperate times call for desperate actions" (his view, not mine)...but, he may have felt remorseful. I don't know. Personally, I find both Rrahul and Helly (and Vishal too) to be very powerful actors and wonder sometimes whether they end up emoting some of their personal feelings regarding the situation.

We ALL can understand vansh's situation but cannot justify his acts. Thank God people's perspections are changing👏

I've known all the 3 leads from their previous shows - have followed Rrahul in Rajaa Betaa (though haven't watched his works in the web series platform), Helly in Swaragini and Sufiyaana Pyaar Mera and Vishal in Jai Kanhaiya Lal Ki and so I recognise that all three can emote a lot through their eyes. Helly as Riddhima has more scope to portray different emotions...with Vansh, I think, it's all about subtlety of expressions and in my view he (like Helly and Vishal) nails it.

I haven't watched any of their shows except swaragini where swara was more intolerable than riddhu for sure😆

Sorry for going a bit off topic in the later part of my reply. Just couldn't stop myself from gushing about their acting.

Ahhh don't be sorry sweetheart😳

What a lovely well thought sensible post...thanks...I totally agree with every word you say...it is so true sometimes female characters get a pass from audience...

All characters should be judged on same grounds...

Originally posted by: A4Anjie

I am waiting for that day - when they team up for a mission.

- I would like to see both of them working on same mission with different ways/perspectives / tassan !

Sorry it took me a bit of time to post. Maybe, with Vansh's disclosure today that day is not far.