Veeranshu's tryst with his past - Page 9

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Originally posted by: J2lover

But here we are talking about betrayal sohini! Since his childhood, veer's father has been telling him that Aadi-naagin would be his destined killer, she's the biggest threat to the cheel clan, etc. etc. which is also true to some extent! And here, she is! Married him and entered his house with an agenda to destroy his family! This has huge gravity! It would be a life changing revelation for Veeranshu! So, this isn't something he's gonna just ignore in a day or two or smirk it off or take it with a pinch of salt! He would feel badly betrayed! His love for bani is at one place but he would do something to protect himself and his family, right? Its just defense mechanism! Maybe, he would feel bani played with his feelings as a part of her plan! All speculations ofc, but wouldn't be normal with her, that's for sure! Except, if he already knows! Then, kahaani mei alag twist hoga!

Am feeling its a dream sequence! The battle between bani's two minds! One mind wants to kill veer, other is trying to refrain from it! Its her nightmare! I highly doubt, jay has the guts to enter the singhania house and kill veer in his own house!

I would have agreed with this, had this been the regular Naagin season. But, this season is different. Veeranshu Singhania is the smartest and most unpredictable hero of this season. For one, I know he is grey. I also know he will choose his family's safety any day before Bani. And we have seen him doing that. We have seen him doubt her, keep her away from his brothers, claiming she wants to hurt his family, trying to compel her to reveal her identity. But then he has also seen a number of other things as well - she has principles, she fights from the front, not backstabbing, she saves and protects her enemy, Veeranshu first, (then his family too). He has seen that side to her as well. After Teer's death revelation, when he found out she isn't involved, he was pretty much at peace with that. When Bani jumped off the window for him, he was shown even more secure. And if he has his memories back, I feel Veeranshu has this inner confidence or 'aas' that Bani will choose her love or feelings for him over her hatred or 'vish' for him.

Now going by your view, it is also possible for Veeranshu to misunderstand Bani for some time. Just like she did for Noor, Naina, and Jai, he could also not trust her with regard to Mayuri, Shukla, or even his father. Bani would have to pool in extra efforts to convince that she is right about them. They could show that too. It is possible. But, the thing will remain that Veeranshu will always safeguard Bani when needed. So let's see how it goes.

Coming to dream sequence, naaahhh. It isn't one. If Jai has the guts to come to his poolside, he can also come to his house, so chill. Seems like his pol khol is on the way.

Originally posted by: libran90

I would have agreed with this, had this been the regular Naagin season. But, this season is different. Veeranshu Singhania is the smartest and most unpredictable hero of this season. For one, I know he is grey. I also know he will choose his family's safety any day before Bani. And we have seen him doing that. We have seen him doubt her, keep her away from his brothers, claiming she wants to hurt his family, trying to compel her to reveal her identity. But then he has also seen a number of other things as well - she has principles, she fights from the front, not backstabbing, she saves and protects her enemy, Veeranshu first, (then his family too). He has seen that side to her as well. After Teer's death revelation, when he found out she isn't involved, he was pretty much at peace with that. When Bani jumped off the window for him, he was shown even more secure. And if he has his memories back, I feel Veeranshu has this inner confidence or 'aas' that Bani will choose her love or feelings for him over her hatred or 'vish' for him.

Yepp! It could go either way yrr! Even I have extremely high hopes from Veeranshu!❤️ He's a sane mind! Very balanced! So yeah, misunderstanding isn't really his thing, but then bani is the love of his life, and the person whom you love the most, hurts you the most! Yaha maala dil ka hai!😆

But you have very valid points! Veeranshu kaan ka kachha nai hai! He only believes what his eyes sees and heart feels! So, considering our boi as the most sensible ML ever, he would give bani a benefit of doubt!😃

But, the thing will remain that Veeranshu will always safeguard Bani when needed. So let's see how it goes.

That's a constant yr! He would never leave her unprotected deliberately!

Coming to dream sequence, naaahhh. It isn't one. If Jai has the guts to come to his poolside, he can also come to his house, so chill. Seems like his pol khol is on the way.

Arree but Sohini, this is din dahaade! In front of everyone!😆 Itna smart and daredevil hai kya apna doodhwaala!?😆 I hope aisa ho though! Its high time the story moves forward with jay's truth out!

Originally posted by: J2lover

Yepp! It could go either way yrr! Even I have extremely high hopes from Veeranshu! He's a sane mind! Very balanced! So yeah, misunderstanding isn't really his thing, but then bani is the love of his life, and the person whom you love the most, hurts you the most! Yaha maala dil ka hai!

But you have very valid points! Veeranshu kaan ka kachha nai hai! He only believes what his eyes sees and heart feels! So, considering our boi as the most sensible ML ever, he would give bani a benefit of doubt!

Veeranshu is different that is why I have hopes from him. There should be a reason why he is the chosen consort to Adi Naagin. Being Adi Naagin is not an easy job and hence she needs an equally strong support system. And come on, Veeranshu does understand defense mechanism, so he can automatically understand that what Bani is doing is the same, defense mechanism. I mean what I am trying to say here, I am inclined to believe that Bani and Veeranshu can have miscommunication, but not misunderstanding. Because they belong to two separate clans, their approach towards everything would be very different and that is where they can have a war of words. Understanding and trust in any relationship takes time, but here it will take more from both ends, because they are different - not just in a human way, but shapeshifting instinct way. And trust me, this season Veeranshu is the highlight, not Adi Naagin. They are of course equals in many ways, but when it comes to love, Veeranshu is way superior to Bani. He will always choose love, no matter what.

That's a constant yr! He would never leave her unprotected deliberately!

Exactly!

Arree but Sohini, this is din dahaade! In front of everyone! Itna smart and daredevil hai kya apna doodhwaala!? I hope aisa ho though! Its high time the story moves forward with jay's truth out!

Singhania mansion me din dahaade kahaan kuch hota hai, raat dahaade hota hai🤣And as we can see from the promo the hall is empty. Jai Mathur has all the guts in the world, but no glory to his name. I don't know why I am getting vibes ki Bani paasa paltegi Jai ka. Wishful thinking, yo!

Originally posted by: _NINA_

Bani jitni pagal hai wo kiss k badly dass ly gi veer ko 😂

Originally posted by: libran90

Okay people, especially on my behna Lavi's request🤗, I am posting my observations for Sunday night's episode here again for you to read and comment on it. Thanks, Shirsha, Aliya, Ahili, Naina & Lavi for sharing your comments on the same in the previous thread.🤗

Okay, so I am the most useless person in the world, so I was rewatching the Sunday night episode again, and this time the focus was on Veeranshu vs Shakura fight. So for starters, we never received an explanation as to why Shakura took Aakesh's face. But I came up with an observation, hope you find it as interesting as I found it when I thought of it while watching.

So, when Veer was fighting Shakura, it gave me the impression of Veeranshu fighting his former self Aakesh. Of course, Veer is Aakesh, but Aakesh if we remember, as much as we admired him for the obsession, he was also dark, because he was literally forcing Naageshwari to be with him. During their first meeting, Aakesh literally tried to drag away Naageshwari and Hriday intervened. And then in the temple too, he was trying to force Naageshwari to come with him, but Naageshwari did not.

During this fight between Veer and Shakura, it was a fight between Veer's former dark side and Veer's present grey side. In Aakesh, the darkness was enhanced, but the feelings for Naageshwari were pure. In Veer, that darkness is softer, and feelings for Bani are enhanced. As always I say Veer is an upgraded Aakesh. But during this fight, Veer was fighting his own dark self in Shakura who wanted to possess Bani, like some object. Shakura too was dragging Bani to marriage, which Aakesh did with Naageshwari, dragging her with him. But Veer has light in him, his light which appeared weak, fought the strength of the dark Shakura, and in the end, light won, Veer won. And hence the Trishul came in handy to kill his darkness, his past, his misdeed. It was symbolic that Veeranshu killed his former dark side, that side to Aakesh that saw Naageshwari as an object, not a person. And now we have only Veeranshu who has light, who only loves Bani, and has no darkness or malintent.

If you see this friction was a deja vu experience for Veeranshu and Bani. It is a reinterpretation of the Hriday, Naageshwari, and Aakesh scene right in the initial episodes. Bani because this is exactly what transpired between Naageshwari, Hriday, and Aakesh. Veeranshu because Bholenath showed him a mirror of his own past deeds to him. What he did as Aakesh to Naageshwari, is what exactly Shakura was doing to Bani. That time Naageshwari was betrothed to Hriday. Here Bani is already married to Veeranshu. What Aakesh did back then was completely wrong, be it stealing Naagmani or forcefully trying to take Naageshwari. Veeranshu came back with memories of his past and this was his test, whether he had learned from his past mistakes. Aur uske saath wahi incident dauhraya jaata hai, uske saamne ussi ka chehra ek naye naam ke saath aata hai, uski biwi ko uske saamne uthake le jaane ki koshish karta hai, and Veeranshu reverses that misdeed by Aakesh. He rectified his error. He has learned and moved on. Veeranshu passed his test. Henceforth, Veeranshu will only win, because he has understood what he needs to do to make things right. This Veeranshu Singhania is definitely different. Veeranshu is now free from his past life karma.

Another thing I noticed is Shakura telling Veer, "Kamaal hai, mujhko dekh kar tu chauka nahi". I mean why will Veer be shocked? He is a cheel himself, so he should not be shocked looking at Shakura. Or Shakura had another meaning to that statement, or I am thinking too much. What do you guys feel?

Saw the Navratri promo.Things are not looking good for the VANI side.So Veer saw 2 Aadi-Naagins.I can bet one of them is probably Jay.Jay has mastered the art of disguises why is Bani still not able to do the same inspite of being the so called Supreme Aadi-Naagin?

So as per the promo Veer's gonna remember his past memories so this proves 2 things-

1-Veer was really Aakesh in the previous birth.

2-Bani's Naagin identity is gonna get exposed before the Cheels or at least before Veer unless Bani is able to make Veer the Ghajini Veer through her hypnotic powers or Shukla chants some Black Magic mantras to make Veer forget the past & Veer can go back to doing his usual SWEETHEART routine for Bani.

If at all Veer remembers his previous birth then the greatest battle starts within Veer himself-whom does he choose? His hate for the snakes or his true love for Bani.As I have said before I wanted Veer to be cold with her yet protect Bani from that dastardly trio of Jay and his cronies.

Jay is proving himself to be an effective Mastermind though not on the level of Yamini perhaps.

Bani wanted to protect Veer therefore she saves him in her real form but after that what?She took her husband's love for granted hates her with all her fibre yet the same enemy Veer loves her unconditionally & that's what I don't want now.If Veer goes back to his SWEETHEART routine he's gonna get nothing but hatred in return.Jay's exposure will take its own sweet time.

Bani never loved Veer she loves that fake Jay.Veer must not leave her but its time the real Veer comes back.Veer needs to be cold & start using his brain rather than his heart otherwise he would always get hurt in the process.Since Bani herself will take her own time to figure out the truth & when she does & if at all Bani really falls in love with Veer then its time for Veer to give the reverse treatment to her.

Bani has been extremely rude & judgemental towards Veer & while I appreciate her sense of justice in saving Veer not once but twice-(Nagfani Zeher/Gandhak Paththar trick which led to Veer's escape from the cage) she's doing it bcoz her sense of justice balances her hatred for Veer with concern for an unarmed person.

Bela accepted her love for Maahir but she was never that much rude or have unbridled hatred for Maahir.She saw his good side & the extent to which Maahir went for her whether its saving her from that snake-charmer Shaan/falling down with her when Aadi pushed her from the terrace of that Haveli or falling down with her from that dangerous height from the mountainside towards the river.He was always there for her to the best of his abilities bcoz he loved her madly.

Same is Veer.He's not Maahir but he would be there for Bani always.But Bani does not even respect the wedding too so its time for Veer to think & accept the fact that she does not love him henceforth Veer must change his outlook but not change his feelings for her.

I don't want Veer to hate her but he can be cold towards her.Veer being a grey character can carry this cold swagger quite well.He can act heartless but not be heartless for her.And once he gets back his past memories perhaps he might get new powers who knows?

Veer's new powers would help Bani in fending off her enemies but still Bani would continue her usual hate for Veer so its time for Veer to maintain social distancing from her.

RV had never gone back to Ishani that easily once he got hurt repeatedly costing his life.So it makes sense for Veer to be completely cold-hearted for her.

There could be another scenario which I fear might or might not happen.If at all as per this promo he remembers his memories then Veer could perhaps give in to his dark side which he had always kept hidden within him.Never forget that Veer is a grey character & he has his own 2 sides within him-Light Side-Love for Bani & Dark Cheel side which hates Naag-Naagins.

Veer should become cold-hearted but must not give in to his dark side.And let's say he does give in then Bani would have a difficult situation at her hand-she might be the Aadi-Naagin but she would have to deal with Jay & his cronies along with this new evil Veer.

Balwant anyway does not like Bani & let's say he manipulates his son Veer after seeing the way Bani always hates Veer then Veer might think that he would never get Naageshwari aka Bani in this birth also bcoz he's the Scavenger Prince Aakesh reborn who was killed in the previous birth.

Veer is neither like Maahir nor like Ritik who would always stay on the positive side.Veer would have a reason to hate Bani due to her obnoxious behavior.And Veer might hurt Bani in the process though we might not want that.

The real test for Veer's love starts now-hate Bani or choose his love for Bani.

As for Bani its her choice what she wants-let Veer go to the Dark side due to her stupid hatred & lose her only strong support or think clearly & figure out how to deal with this reincarnated Veer who really loves her madly.Maha-Nagrani ho ya Aadi-Naagin every Naagin needs a support system & their lovers/husbands have been there for the Naagins bcoz the husbands loved their Naagins unconditionally.

@masked. You make really valid points. And I know we all are very irritated with Bani's obnoxious behavior towards Veeranshu, and her overall mood in general. But I have some points to add to your comments, and these are completely my opinion.

When it comes to grey, I have seen Bani and Veeranshu are both grey characters, but Bani is the one who has a darker shade, and Veeranshu has a lighter shade. As the story has progressed, we have seen instances of Bani being the darker one, with principles, though and Veeranshu only being the talker, but not doing the gory stuff we can expect of a dark Cheel. Amongst Veeranshu and Bani, Bani is more capable of hunt and kill than Veeranshu is. He has refrained from killing as long as it isn't absolutely necessary, like Shakura. He could have killed Jai, but Bani intervened, and even after that he spared him, did not touch or harm him. Bani, on the other hand, when it comes to killing, she will do it without batting an eyelid, like in Teer's case. She mistook him for Veeranshu, but if Shukla hadn't come, she would have killed him either way. Also, since her arrival at Singhania mansion, she has been looking for ways to provoke everyone, but it hasn't working according to plan.

Coming to brain, Veeranshu is superior here as well, because he is not blind or doesn't act on impulse or rage like Bani or his family. If he sees bad things about his family, he can see about Bani too. He can also see the good things in Bani, like her values, her principles, her ethical standards, her courage. He also knows that Bani blatantly lies to him and hides things. He has been hurt by Bani many a times by her words, but he has seen her attempt to protect an innocent (in her POV), exposed the mystery behind Teer's death. He has seen the same Bani who wants to kill him, also save him. He has seen her recognise the imposter pretending to be him. He has heard her jump off a window, but not be married to an imposter, because she herself said she is married. He has observed, experienced and felt a lot of things about Bani overall.

Finally speaking of love, Veeranshu will always be superior to Bani in this department too. Veeranshu is an upgraded Aakesh. Aakesh was just raw and all heart, but Veeranshu is polished with a functioning mind and heart. Even when he believed Bani killed his brother, he did not hurt her, that shows his superiority. He has been angry, confused, exasperated with her, but he still did not hurt her, that shows his superiority. Yes, he hates Nags and Naagins, he has been conditioned to do so, he will come to know Bani's reality and probably knows already, but still he won't hurt her. He could have an internal turmoil, but won't last too long, because Bani being unsafe or some other Bani's gesture to safeguard him or his own, will win him over, because he gets placated easily, when it comes to her. It takes a lot of courage for a man to know this person is your enemy, wants to hurt you, and you still love that person. It is so easy to hate, but very difficult to love. Bani chose her baseless hate, which is easy, but Veeranshu chose and will always choose love, which is difficult, but he will do it.

Coming to the show overall, there are so many shows where the leads are in a similar situation, but the girl is misunderstood and insulted, and mostly the guy is the one to hurt her all the time. And after all that she chooses to stand by the man, his family and protect them no matter what. And we are equally irritated with the girl. We expect redemption for the hero and the heroine just moving on with her life. But when has it ever happened in ITV shows. For some time and we are back to square one. Heroine and hero together again. If the hero is accommodating and loving and being the superior person here for once, why is it so difficult to accept?? We all love Veeranshu, but that is the very reason why we love him. He puts up with a family as wretched as his, so why can't he put up with Bani. Yes, he can be angry, he can be hurt, but he cannot stop being what he is, for no one. So expecting darkness from Veeranshu is not possible, he won't be. Expecting him to be too cold isn't possible. He is a different character, a different cheel, he only looks dark, but is filled with light, which he himself can't see. I don't know much about the prophecy of Veeranshu succumbing to or changing to light, but from where I can see, Veeranshu has more light in him than Bani does. It has kind of reversed in Kalyug. More than Bani being his light, it is Veeranshu who is Bani's light. Now how these two completely opposite people come together is what remains to be seen. I am actually more interested to see changes in Bani's overall persona and thought process. That's my two cents, sorry for ranting for too long.

Originally posted by: J2lover

Am feeling its a dream sequence! The battle between bani's two minds! One mind wants to kill veer, other is trying to refrain from it! Its her nightmare! I highly doubt, jay has the guts to enter the singhania house and kill veer in his own house!

This is actually a real possibility. I too somehow feel that it is a dream sequence. On the other hand, there has to be a few revelations soon for the story to progress. Anything can happen !

Originally posted by: libran90

@masked. You make really valid points. And I know we all are very irritated with Bani's obnoxious behavior towards Veeranshu, and her overall mood in general. But I have some points to add to your comments, and these are completely my opinion.

When it comes to grey, I have seen Bani and Veeranshu are both grey characters, but Bani is the one who has a darker shade, and Veeranshu has a lighter shade. As the story has progressed, we have seen instances of Bani being the darker one, with principles, though and Veeranshu only being the talker, but not doing the gory stuff we can expect of a dark Cheel. Amongst Veeranshu and Bani, Bani is more capable of hunt and kill than Veeranshu is. He has refrained from killing as long as it isn't absolutely necessary, like Shakura. He could have killed Jai, but Bani intervened, and even after that he spared him, did not touch or harm him. Bani, on the other hand, when it comes to killing, she will do it without batting an eyelid, like in Teer's case. She mistook him for Veeranshu, but if Shukla hadn't come, she would have killed him either way. Also, since her arrival at Singhania mansion, she has been looking for ways to provoke everyone, but it hasn't working according to plan.

Coming to brain, Veeranshu is superior here as well, because he is not blind or doesn't act on impulse or rage like Bani or his family. If he sees bad things about his family, he can see about Bani too. He can also see the good things in Bani, like her values, her principles, her ethical standards, her courage. He also knows that Bani blatantly lies to him and hides things. He has been hurt by Bani many a times by her words, but he has seen her attempt to protect an innocent (in her POV), exposed the mystery behind Teer's death. He has seen the same Bani who wants to kill him, also save him. He has seen her recognise the imposter pretending to be him. He has heard her jump off a window, but not be married to an imposter, because she herself said she is married. He has observed, experienced and felt a lot of things about Bani overall.

Finally speaking of love, Veeranshu will always be superior to Bani in this department too. Veeranshu is an upgraded Aakesh. Aakesh was just raw and all heart, but Veeranshu is polished with a functioning mind and heart. Even when he believed Bani killed his brother, he did not hurt her, that shows his superiority. He has been angry, confused, exasperated with her, but he still did not hurt her, that shows his superiority. Yes, he hates Nags and Naagins, he has been conditioned to do so, he will come to know Bani's reality and probably knows already, but still he won't hurt her. He could have an internal turmoil, but won't last too long, because Bani being unsafe or some other Bani's gesture to safeguard him or his own, will win him over, because he gets placated easily, when it comes to her. It takes a lot of courage for a man to know this person is your enemy, wants to hurt you, and you still love that person. It is so easy to hate, but very difficult to love. Bani chose her baseless hate, which is easy, but Veeranshu chose and will always choose love, which is difficult, but he will do it.

Coming to the show overall, there are so many shows where the leads are in a similar situation, but the girl is misunderstood and insulted, and mostly the guy is the one to hurt her all the time. And after all that she chooses to stand by the man, his family and protect them no matter what. And we are equally irritated with the girl. We expect redemption for the hero and the heroine just moving on with her life. But when has it ever happened in ITV shows. For some time and we are back to square one. Heroine and hero together again. If the hero is accommodating and loving and being the superior person here for once, why is it so difficult to accept?? We all love Veeranshu, but that is the very reason why we love him. He puts up with a family as wretched as his, so why can't he put up with Bani. Yes, he can be angry, he can be hurt, but he cannot stop being what he is, for no one. So expecting darkness from Veeranshu is not possible, he won't be. Expecting him to be too cold isn't possible. He is a different character, a different cheel, he only looks dark, but is filled with light, which he himself can't see. I don't know much about the prophecy of Veeranshu succumbing to or changing to light, but from where I can see, Veeranshu has more light in him than Bani does. It has kind of reversed in Kalyug. More than Bani being his light, it is Veeranshu who is Bani's light. Now how these two completely opposite people come together is what remains to be seen. I am actually more interested to see changes in Bani's overall persona and thought process. That's my two cents, sorry for ranting for too long.