What went wrong with EK's plan - A Case study - Page 3

Originally posted by: surbhi1995

But I m glad that now parth and Erica will move on and do better stuff which actually deserve talented actors like them.

Though we do miss AnuPre, to see Parth & Eri refreshing themselves out of KZKland is indeed like I myself breathing fresh air after a loong time. That much KZK had pumped in negativity in our lives. 😔

You may be right about the leap. The writing team just relies on these crutches. Maybe newer writers would have made a difference.

Agreed about Aamna too, her acting has improved so much! I heard there wasn't much marketing that went into promoting her and look at how successful she was.

@ Bold 1: This for me is the key takeaway for EK. No one will watch a lazily written bad story. If she uses her exceptional marketing capability for promoting decent writing, people will watch else simply not. Write good stories, people will watch it. Word of mouth works well too, but she wants hype.

I do not think any channel will sell their slot to any producer be it EK only, if she had bought it she would have run the show till the end of the slot.

Thanks for writing this, it is always nice to read what others think.

Originally posted by: grace4317

The leap itself was not at all needed. It just left everyone bitter with the developments, except for Aamna aka Komolika who got lots to perform after the leap. Rest, noone is content with the way it ended, including EK herself. I hope this will be a lesson to her not to be overconfident with her marketing team as well as senior writers.

Regarding, the slot booking, I haven't read any article on it. It was discussed here in the forum many times. That's it.

Originally posted by: grace4317

How I wished you would have read clearly what was the title and what I had posted. My post was about what went wrong with EK's PLAN to run the show for 2+ years... Not, what went wrong with the SHOW. Had you read it, you would have understood that half of the complaints you made in your post is irrelevant w.r.to what I had written. Not everything has to be about actors or characters everytime. Also, I hope you have watched the show from the beginning before ruling out the lead actors of the show. Some actors get bored doing monotonous things, like how it was in KZK - Duppatta/Sindur drama, Shaadi/Celebration at BB with pakka one dance number, Kidnap, hospital, police station or court sequences. Even we AnuPre fans had started trolling CVs with flying duppatta & sindhur udayiye posts. And to top it all, the overdose of negativity and villainous acts in the name of kasautiis. In such a situation, if the lead actors got bored and didn't wanted to continue with the show & it got reflected in their scenes.....I don't think that is the time to evaluate their skills/calibre. Even in our workplaces, we don't perform the same 365 days. And if our bosses are to evaluate our performance based on our bad days, would it be accepted. It is said KP and KSG were best in their previous shows. But, if those who saw them only in this show, start to rate them as bad actors, would it be right? So, when we put out our thoughts, we need to take care of various aspects. Parth and Erica are fabulous actors; but they are made for finite shows only. Parth had clearly told the same to EK while he accepted KZK and the storyline narrated to him didn't include Aparna, Sampada & all, as he didn't even know that Anurag had married 4times in the previous season when asked during KZK2 launch. Even Eri that time had said KZK2 will be having new generation flavour. It's EK's fault if she didn't keep the promise she gave them and decided to play with lead's characters as per her whims and fancies. Still, I would say Parth did justice to his role until the end in the best possible way he could. Eri too would have made the character memorable, had she been given a well written character like Komolika. EK and CVs having no story to tell is not the fault of lead actors. Fans of characters who enter for specific tracks alone, will not understand how bored they would have become doing rinse & repeat tracks.

Ending this conversation here. Would not want to discuss further on the same.

Thnx grace for much needed post.

I have never seen ksg or kp.even no idea about them earlier.

But in case of kash I found him robotic and inaudible in almost every scene.yes I agree his due Basu performance was praise worthy.But apart from that I never found him impressive by looking at the experience he has in industry.

About kp ,I can't judge him much.but what I saw his scenes were plain flat everytime after covid break.i used to laugh by seeing his expression in kzk.But I won't call him a bad actor or performer as his ss or role were very much limited.

Originally posted by: grace4317

How I wished you would have read clearly what was the title and what I had posted. My post was about what went wrong with EK's PLAN to run the show for 2+ years... Not, what went wrong with the SHOW. Had you read it, you would have understood that half of the complaints you made in your post is irrelevant w.r.to what I had written. Not everything has to be about actors or characters everytime. Also, I hope you have watched the show from the beginning before ruling out the lead actors of the show. Some actors get bored doing monotonous things, like how it was in KZK - Duppatta/Sindur drama, Shaadi/Celebration at BB with pakka one dance number, Kidnap, hospital, police station or court sequences. Even we AnuPre fans had started trolling CVs with flying duppatta & sindhur udayiye posts. And to top it all, the overdose of negativity and villainous acts in the name of kasautiis. In such a situation, if the lead actors got bored and didn't wanted to continue with the show & it got reflected in their scenes.....I don't think that is the time to evaluate their skills/calibre. Even in our workplaces, we don't perform the same 365 days. And if our bosses are to evaluate our performance based on our bad days, would it be accepted. It is said KP and KSG were best in their previous shows. But, if those who saw them only in this show, start to rate them as bad actors, would it be right? So, when we put out our thoughts, we need to take care of various aspects. Parth and Erica are fabulous actors; but they are made for finite shows only. Parth had clearly told the same to EK while he accepted KZK and the storyline narrated to him didn't include Aparna, Sampada & all, as he didn't even know that Anurag had married 4times in the previous season when asked during KZK2 launch. Even Eri that time had said KZK2 will be having new generation flavour. It's EK's fault if she didn't keep the promise she gave them and decided to play with lead's characters as per her whims and fancies. Still, I would say Parth did justice to his role until the end in the best possible way he could. Eri too would have made the character memorable, had she been given a well written character like Komolika. EK and CVs having no story to tell is not the fault of lead actors. Fans of characters who enter for specific tracks alone, will not understand how bored they would have become doing rinse & repeat tracks.

Ending this conversation here. Would not want to discuss further on the same.

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Clearly the creative team was inept. Even if the leads were at the focal point, the supporting characters could have been used in a manner that everything led to the leads. It's not so tough at all. Anyways.

BTW, who was the writer(s)?

This show definitely wasted Karan Patel's potential. An absolute blot on his CV. He deserves the best for his calibre.

Originally posted by: RaVanKiRani

Clearly the creative team was inept. Even if the leads were at the focal point, the supporting characters could have been used in a manner that everything led to the leads. It's not so tough at all. Anyways.

BTW, who was the writer(s)?

This show definitely wasted Karan Patel's potential. An absolute blot on his CV. He deserves the best for his calibre.

This show won’t age well in anybody’s body of work unless you count increased insta followers to shill products.

It was absolute travesty that Mohini never apologized to P for the shit she gave her. Never apologized to Anupam Or her daughter.

Moloy didn’t get a scene addressing Rajeshs death.

Sharmas never confronting Komo over killing of their father.

this was a show where the supporting cast was miles ahead in calibre compared to the main leads and Yet were short changed.

Originally posted by: surbhi1995

That's the point grace.she was overconfident about acceptance of bjaj and bapre due to nostalgia of last season.Thats why marriage was rushed and executed so badly.After 200 episodes all she think was since bjaj and bapre were accepted 20 year back.so Audience will outrightly accept them without any story and characterisation.Even for bjaj there was nothing.he was just a showpiece in the show.come and give some weird dialogue (which were merely audible) and that's it.

I personally feel if and only if ekta did not follow the S1 route of bapre wedding and forced moving on of pre,instant love of bjaj,instant pre being over sweet with bjaj,no fightback from prerna.then Audience might not have rejected bjaj and bapre so badly.noone was interested in watching middle age guy blackmaling a young pragnant girl and girl is accepting it like it's the best thing in the world.even erica felt this was the point where show started to loose it's loyal audience and after that also same third angle repeat.

And lastly she again tried to do same stuff of 20 year back with anuneprekokyunmara.Again audience gave their Verdict by rejecting bjaj and bapre.

Parica as anupre were beautiful and amazing.they had great potential but it never got utilised properly.that too it's bcoz of their hardwork show worked for 2 years.otgerwise who knows the way story was written after 200 episode what would had happened with kzk.

But I m glad that now parth and Erica will move on and do better stuff which actually deserve talented actors like them.

Since its over now , I think I can take some liberties here . Kzk1 , bapre was never established this way. Nor did they marry instantly or bajaj blackmailed her..pre married bajaj due to ongoing problems of anurag with komo. He was pressured into marrying komo n pre married bajaj to kinda save anurags business, after he had married komo if I remember correctly....after that , it took pre 10 years to accept bajaj. Till the end she never really stopped caring for anrag.....Seriously, I would suggest u to go bk and watch the first 100.epis ,you will.know why it got so.popular. n it actually was way better than this one..some.of it I saw on star utsav recently n it was lovely. Although I didnt like either anurag or bajaj (the actors) , that time kzk was her best show , better than saas bahu and kggk.

this entire theory of BaPre getting rejected n hence serial failing holds.no value as BaPre were never established as pre never got over anurag ....plus the biggest factor was ek never worked on the story , instead depended on actors chemistry costumes grandeur etc to attract audience...the story made sense (idc it was BaPre or anupre or komopre) , till.snehas birth also..but repeating the concept of external kasauti and their way of dealing with it , which was pretty much rinse and repeat and rinse and repeat again which got stale , that caused the failure.when they advertised anragneprekoluinmarra , they cud have developed a story with suspense for a few weeks...trps were also rising ..thy killed their own show for the belief that so and so works and so and so doesnt. Yeah may be aisa tha, for them to work , they needed to spin a story , kuch bhi format nai chalta always.

what did ekta think of showing beyond 200 epis ? She doesnt think. She keeps experimenting with tracks and changes them as per the response.

EK tried to use the popularity of it's Season 1 and the individual actors to make this season popular instead of making the show popular through its story and execution. I mean she took all known and familiar faces for the 4 leads. (She could have taken newbies who were good actors and planned to stay with the show for long).

The makers had just planned the Naveen Bajaj Track well and rest all was so unstructured. They could have broadly defined the storyline for show to make it crisp, interesting and structured.

What went wrong with EK's plan is that she never had a plan to begin with. She thought she could ride on the success of season 1 and the popularity of the actors she hired this season.

I never really believed her when she said kzk is her dream project, Seriously? A dream project where she invests nothing in the story? All she did was pour out money for promotions right from statues to who will play which character.KZK2 is the easily the worst Ekta show I have seen in terms of story. I don't know if her bhagya's too run on the same format? Haven't seen them. If only she had allowed season2 to have its own journey instead of trying to fit in the story and the characters into a certain mould. Like they had to somehow show Anurag marrying Komolika and Prerna marrying Bajaj because it happened in season1. Were the reasons justified this season?Did any of the characters make sense? No .They didn't. The bridge fiasco was the biggest mistake they did.Until then the story and the characters made some sense.Again so much money invested in promotions but the story being the same MAJBORI shit. Forget trp viewers , even the online viewers lost connect with the lead characters. People were simply watching it for the actors after that which was not enough to sustain the show.

Add to that she hired two young actors for Anurag and Prerna who would never have agreed to be in the show for long with generation leaps.Especially for Parth, its his first GEC show.Both would have wanted to explore other career options instead of getting stuck in a role for years.

Originally posted by: -Doppelganger-

What went wrong with EK's plan is that she never had a plan to begin with. She thought she could ride on the success of season 1 and the popularity of the actors she hired this season.

I never really believed her when she said kzk is her dream project, Seriously? A dream project where she invests nothing in the story? All she did was pour out money for promotions right from statues to who will play which character.KZK2 is the easily the worst Ekta show I have seen in terms of story. I don't know if her bhagya's too run on the same format? Haven't seen them. If only she had allowed season2 to have its own journey instead of trying to fit in the story and the characters into a certain mould. Like they had to somehow show Anurag marrying Komolika and Prerna marrying Bajaj because it happened in season1. Were the reasons justified this season?Did any of the characters make sense? No .They didn't. The bridge fiasco was the biggest mistake they did.Until then the story and the characters made some sense.Again so much money invested in promotions but the story being the same MAJBORI shit. Forget trp viewers , even the online viewers lost connect with the lead characters. People were simply watching it for the actors after that which was not enough to sustain the show.

Add to that she hired two young actors for Anurag and Prerna who would never have agreed to be in the show for long with generation leaps.Especially for Parth, its his first GEC show.Both would have wanted to explore other career options instead of getting stuck in a role for years.

I agree with everything except bold. Except for first bajaj pre marriage which ended in divorce , neither anurag marry pre nor komo married anurag nor did pre or anurag marry komo or bajaj atter bridge kaand. The marriages itself were kept Dubious and I think it pissed off a lot of trp audience, bec no clarity was maintained ...and why did they do it is anybody's guess..ok BaPre nai karna tha. Anukomo nai karna tha...Anupre toh kar dete. Karate na shadi. The justifications for marriages might have come if there was a story . I dont mind watching romance without shadi , shadi is unimportant but in the story anupre attempted shadi for what ? 5 or 6 times ? Komo tried it twice. They made a joke out of it. As u said everything boils down the the lack of logic and story.

Agree with the last para completely. Going by ektas track record and kzk previous record, it was a crime to continue playing these roles beyond a limit. Ekta k had to replace them, she must be knowing it. I think Corona times added to her miseries , like it did to the rest of the world lol instead of 5 or 6 yr old they had to play parents to a 15 yr old.with little young kids she would have stretched it for may be 6 more months before going for another leap , 6 months wahan bhi chal jaata if there was a story.