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Originally posted by: Appu1981

Partiality runs in maheshwari house with mishti also.. had varsha n jasmeet accepted mishti wholeheartedly, they wouldn’t ask mishti to adjust to kuhu’s tantrums.. they would’nt expect mishti to adjust and be the big sister..

I agree that BM-BP are very protective and concerned about mishti.. but you have to understand that they have defacto adopted her.. she is their daughter just like kuhu is varsha’s.... would varsha compare Naira n kuhu or Akshara n kuhu??

BM expects varsha to raise n make decisions for kuhu...sane way BM takes decisions for mishti .... the roles have been carved out..

Does varsha put mishti above kuhu?? Then why the expectation that BM will put kuhu above mishti... bcoz Mishti is adopted that’s why this expectation that for BM/BP kuhu should hold more importance ???

And by the above points I’m not absolving BM/BP from things they have been thoughtless about.. like the Rishta swap, etc.. but I’m saying that it takes 2 to tango..

Only Kuhu's insecurities matter in our show.

So partiality too only matters when it comes to Kuhu.

We are supposed to accept the treatment Mishti gets in the Mah house and from Kuhu & Jasmeet as "normal" or "baseline" for her. She deserves to be treated like an outside and okay to be abused because she does not legally belong to Mah house.

Anything above that is considered injustice towards Kuhu.

BP-BM should have legally adopted Mishti as their daughter. Mishti wouldn't feel so burdened with "ehsaan" and others will also don't mind her presence so much if she had some legal rights!

Originally posted by: livepraylaugh

At bold, they are not snatching but ignoring Kuhu's feeling. Anyways I end the discussion here as they failed as parents as well as grandparents. Kuhu atleast learned to say sorry, all thanks to her husband and making her realize her own mistake. Hopefully, Kuhu can change for the best and be happy with herself without thinking much about other people feeling towards her. Hope Mishti gets the confidence back and don't think much about other people opinion and live her life happily. But these writers always make these girls fight, patch up and history repeats itself as drama makes TRP.

What can we say.. the writers don’t want to solve this issue.. last sisters track was a golden opportunity to resolve some of their problems.. both families should have allowed the girls to fight it out, pull each other’s hair.. and bring all their emotions n issues out in the open.. but what do they do.. again hush them up... toh bade dhamake toh hote rahenge

bold: till when is the question

Italics: ITV heroine hai... toh use toh writers rulate hi rahenge

Originally posted by: SheThought

Only Kuhu's insecurities matter in our show.

So partiality too only matters when it comes to Kuhu.

We are supposed to accept the treatment Mishti gets in the Mah house and from Kuhu as "normal" or "baseline" for her. She deserves to be treated like an outside and okay to be abused because she does not legally belong to Mah house.

Anything above that is considered injustice towards Kuhu.

BP-BM should have legally adopted Mishti as their daughter. Mishti wouldn't feel so burdened with "ehsaan" and others will also don't mind her presence so much if she had some legal rights!

I am not okay with Mishti treatment too in Mah house. BM and BP knows that Jasmeet create problem then they should talk and make some amendments with her. Now the problem went to another level as Mishti confidence level is low, hope she regains her confidence level with Abir efforts. I am talking more about Kuhu as I am little partial towards her due to my personal liking. But Kuhu made some mistakes in her life and I definitely up for her punishment so she can learn her life lessons. I have no problem with it.

Originally posted by: livepraylaugh

I am not okay with Mishti treatment too in Mah house. BM and BP knows that Jasmeet create problem then they should talk and make some amendments with her. Now the problem went to another level as Mishti confidence level is low, hope she regains her confidence level with Abir efforts. I am talking more about Kuhu as I am little partial towards her due to my personal liking. But Kuhu made some mistakes in her life and I definitely up for her punishment so she can learn her life lessons. I have no problem with it.

Oh I don't mean just for you.
The show itself depicts it like this only!

Kuhu's mistakes are shown as galtis and there is hardly any remorse for it!

Every conflict ends with Mishti saying sorry and we move on to next galti.

Kuhu talks rudely and namecalls Mishti all the time (with or without Jas), badmouths her in front of Meenu and whatnot... but we are supposed to condition ourselves into believing that since it's Mishti at the receiving end, it's okay. That's a normal Kuhu-Mishti thing!

So in a way the writers are justifying Kuhu's insecurities and entitlement too!

If BM thinks of Mishti first, it's injustice for Kuhu.

But if Varsha thinks of Kuhu only, it's her motherly feelings, so it's valid and justified.

Kuhu herself minds and gets annoyed that Abir has Mishti in his priority list above her!

As if Mishti just doesn't deserve to be in anyone's priority list, otherwise it's injustice to Kuhu!

I still remember a scene from early days of the show where Mishti and Varsha are having a conversation and Mish says something to Varsha and Varsha's immediate reaction is to hug Mishti... she was about to but then spots Kuhu coming down the stairs, so changes her mind and instructs Mishti to do something instead as she knew Kuhu would get upset if she showed any affection towards Mishti! And this can't be a single instance!

How are about that for partiality?!

Anyways, my point is, writers are only elaborating on Kuhu's insecurities and partiality and injustice. They too justfiy her entitlement.

For Mishti, whatever treatment is meted out to her we are supposed to assume as normal. Jitna mila she should consider as a bonus types.

We do not wish Meenu to differentiate between the two brothers.

But Meenu treating Abir more special and it getting extended to Mishti by her association with Abir (though Meenu doesn't give a damn about Mish) is in a way a good lesson for Kuhu - how does it feel to be in Mishti place and being treated as a second class citizen in your own home!!

Originally posted by: livepraylaugh

I don't have any problem with BP and BP extra caring to Mishti but don't be hypocrites and just tell Kuhu that Mishti is more important than her. She might take it in good way who knows! Kunal till now make sure that Kuhu learns that she is last priority in his life and she still keeps up with him after knowing his preference. She would have kept with Mishti too. Yesterday too, Kunal showed her place in his life and she said sorry! BM and BP never discuss anything with Kuhu and tells her that she is child. oh come on, She deal with her fake marriage, started her own business etc. I am sure that if they talk with her, she might understand their point of views.

Totally agree, I think the way kunal has learned ri handle kuhu is much better than varsha jas BM BP combined 😆

Originally posted by: SheThought

Oh I don't mean just for you.
The show itself depicts it like this only!

Kuhu's mistakes are shown as galtis and there is hardly any remorse for it!

Every conflict ends with Mishti saying sorry and we move on to next galti.

Kuhu talks rudely and namecalls Mishti all the time (with or without Jas), badmouths her in front of Meenu and whatnot... but we are supposed to condition ourselves into believing that since it's Mishti at the receiving end, it's okay. That's a normal Kuhu-Mishti thing!

So in a way the writers are justifying Kuhu's insecurities and entitlement too!

If BM thinks of Mishti first, it's injustice for Kuhu.

But if Varsha thinks of Kuhu only, it's her motherly feelings, so it's valid and justified.

Kuhu herself minds and gets annoyed that Abir has Mishti in his priority list above her!

As if Mishti just doesn't deserve to be in anyone's priority list, otherwise it's injustice to Kuhu!

I still remember a scene from early days of the show where Mishti and Varsha are having a conversation and Mish says something to Varsha and Varsha's immediate reaction is to hug Mishti... she was about to but then spots Kuhu coming down the stairs, so changes her mind and instructs Mishti to do something instead as she knew Kuhu would get upset if she showed any affection towards Mishti! And this can't be a single instance!

How are about that for partiality?!

Anyways, my point is, writers are only elaborating on Kuhu's insecurities and partiality and injustice. They too justfiy her entitlement.

For Mishti, whatever treatment is meted out to her we are supposed to assume as normal. Jitna mila she should consider as a bonus types.

We do not wish Meenu to differentiate between the two brothers.

But Meenu treating Abir more special and it getting extended to Mishti by her association with Abir (though Meenu doesn't give a damn about Mish) is in a way a good lesson for Kuhu - how does it feel to be in Mishti place and being treated as a second class citizen in your own home!!

so true.. bang on

All instances like the doll house one show how bad kuhu must have felt ... but as someone said on this forum earlier there are always 3 sides to a story.. my side, your side and the truth... but why Always the writers show kuhu’s insecurities... and try to passively justify her behavior... she hardly gets called out... she get forgiven easily without even apologizing... and what is this mann ki saaf thing... bad behavior and bad deeds can never be justified... irrespective of how justified one’s insecurities be....

and what is this BP/BM ki galti ka alaap?? They must have seen injustice happening with mishti everyday therefore they want to protect her interests... basically it’s a visious cycle... but people keep blaming mishti, BP/BM... and abir....

Bold- my thoughts exactly... treat others the way you want to be treated...

Originally posted by: SheThought

Oh I don't mean just for you.
The show itself depicts it like this only!

Kuhu's mistakes are shown as galtis and there is hardly any remorse for it!

Every conflict ends with Mishti saying sorry and we move on to next galti.

Kuhu talks rudely and namecalls Mishti all the time (with or without Jas), badmouths her in front of Meenu and whatnot... but we are supposed to condition ourselves into believing that since it's Mishti at the receiving end, it's okay. That's a normal Kuhu-Mishti thing!

So in a way the writers are justifying Kuhu's insecurities and entitlement too!

If BM thinks of Mishti first, it's injustice for Kuhu.

But if Varsha thinks of Kuhu only, it's her motherly feelings, so it's valid and justified.

Kuhu herself minds and gets annoyed that Abir has Mishti in his priority list above her!

As if Mishti just doesn't deserve to be in anyone's priority list, otherwise it's injustice to Kuhu!

I still remember a scene from early days of the show where Mishti and Varsha are having a conversation and Mish says something to Varsha and Varsha's immediate reaction is to hug Mishti... she was about to but then spots Kuhu coming down the stairs, so changes her mind and instructs Mishti to do something instead as she knew Kuhu would get upset if she showed any affection towards Mishti! And this can't be a single instance!

How are about that for partiality?!

Anyways, my point is, writers are only elaborating on Kuhu's insecurities and partiality and injustice. They too justfiy her entitlement.

For Mishti, whatever treatment is meted out to her we are supposed to assume as normal. Jitna mila she should consider as a bonus types.

We do not wish Meenu to differentiate between the two brothers.

But Meenu treating Abir more special and it getting extended to Mishti by her association with Abir (though Meenu doesn't give a damn about Mish) is in a way a good lesson for Kuhu - how does it feel to be in Mishti place and being treated as a second class citizen in your own home!!

I agree that Kuhu should stop name calling Mishti. For that someone needs to talk with her about where she goes wrong like Kunal did yesterday about her fear is okay but her language needs to be little soft and sorted. Hopefully someone talk to her about her wrongdoing so she she can correct mistakes. I believe that Kunal can do it as she listens to him.

Originally posted by: SheThought

Oh I don't mean just for you.
The show itself depicts it like this only!

Kuhu's mistakes are shown as galtis and there is hardly any remorse for it!

Every conflict ends with Mishti saying sorry and we move on to next galti.

Kuhu talks rudely and namecalls Mishti all the time (with or without Jas), badmouths her in front of Meenu and whatnot... but we are supposed to condition ourselves into believing that since it's Mishti at the receiving end, it's okay. That's a normal Kuhu-Mishti thing!

So in a way the writers are justifying Kuhu's insecurities and entitlement too!

If BM thinks of Mishti first, it's injustice for Kuhu.

But if Varsha thinks of Kuhu only, it's her motherly feelings, so it's valid and justified.

Kuhu herself minds and gets annoyed that Abir has Mishti in his priority list above her!

As if Mishti just doesn't deserve to be in anyone's priority list, otherwise it's injustice to Kuhu!

I still remember a scene from early days of the show where Mishti and Varsha are having a conversation and Mish says something to Varsha and Varsha's immediate reaction is to hug Mishti... she was about to but then spots Kuhu coming down the stairs, so changes her mind and instructs Mishti to do something instead as she knew Kuhu would get upset if she showed any affection towards Mishti! And this can't be a single instance!

How are about that for partiality?!

Anyways, my point is, writers are only elaborating on Kuhu's insecurities and partiality and injustice. They too justfiy her entitlement.

For Mishti, whatever treatment is meted out to her we are supposed to assume as normal. Jitna mila she should consider as a bonus types.

We do not wish Meenu to differentiate between the two brothers.

But Meenu treating Abir more special and it getting extended to Mishti by her association with Abir (though Meenu doesn't give a damn about Mish) is in a way a good lesson for Kuhu - how does it feel to be in Mishti place and being treated as a second class citizen in your own home!!

Pali I don't know why this topic is pushed into mishti v kuhu but ...did you read the whole convo...because I know you are much better than this

I know you will understand this that's why I am explaining it to you , we were strictly talking about how BM and varsha reacted today , it has nothing to do with mishti and kuhu here....

The fact that kuhu doesn't get called out and mishti is blamed forever is itself an injustice and it's a Pratha going on in mahs family and BM and BP are silent on that for years and sometimes even a party to that ....this very fact makes BM arguement that we treat girls equally goes void right...

Being treated as 2nd class citizens in your own family is wrong, whether it was mishti in mahs or it iis kuhu in RVs .I feel more bad for kunal here

But the topic of discussin was about how BM brushed it off saying it's all equal when varsha wasn't even blaming mishti , she was actually blaming meenu and her treatment

Please I request to all the forum members out here , don't make it mishti vs kuhu unnecessarily, we have grown from that long back I guess

Originally posted by: SheThought

Oh I don't mean just for you.
The show itself depicts it like this only!

Kuhu's mistakes are shown as galtis and there is hardly any remorse for it!

Every conflict ends with Mishti saying sorry and we move on to next galti.

Kuhu talks rudely and namecalls Mishti all the time (with or without Jas), badmouths her in front of Meenu and whatnot... but we are supposed to condition ourselves into believing that since it's Mishti at the receiving end, it's okay. That's a normal Kuhu-Mishti thing!

So in a way the writers are justifying Kuhu's insecurities and entitlement too!

If BM thinks of Mishti first, it's injustice for Kuhu.

But if Varsha thinks of Kuhu only, it's her motherly feelings, so it's valid and justified.

Kuhu herself minds and gets annoyed that Abir has Mishti in his priority list above her!

As if Mishti just doesn't deserve to be in anyone's priority list, otherwise it's injustice to Kuhu!

I still remember a scene from early days of the show where Mishti and Varsha are having a conversation and Mish says something to Varsha and Varsha's immediate reaction is to hug Mishti... she was about to but then spots Kuhu coming down the stairs, so changes her mind and instructs Mishti to do something instead as she knew Kuhu would get upset if she showed any affection towards Mishti! And this can't be a single instance!

How are about that for partiality?!

Anyways, my point is, writers are only elaborating on Kuhu's insecurities and partiality and injustice. They too justfiy her entitlement.

For Mishti, whatever treatment is meted out to her we are supposed to assume as normal. Jitna mila she should consider as a bonus types.

We do not wish Meenu to differentiate between the two brothers.

But Meenu treating Abir more special and it getting extended to Mishti by her association with Abir (though Meenu doesn't give a damn about Mish) is in a way a good lesson for Kuhu - how does it feel to be in Mishti place and being treated as a second class citizen in your own home!!

Agreed. The effect of years of bullying shows up when Mishti is at her lowest and has her calling herself names! And this is normalized in our show. They showed Kuhu looking remorseful when Mishti tells her she has her wish, but will that stop Kuhu from doing the same the next time around? So far it hasn't.

The worst was the latest magazine cover issue. Not one person spoke to both of them at the same time. Blame was apportioned equally, expectation was that MIshti will resolve the issue however. They felt let-down when the girls acted friendly and then accepted it happily when they helped each other out. That was the worst ever!!

I also never quite understood how being a parent and grandparent is one and the same. Kuhu had Varsha and BM was her dadi. Mishti had BM as her mom/dadi. I don't understand the expectation that they should be treated the same, but BM herself says she treats them the same, and that is misleading. Yeah, never understood why she should top Mish on Abir's priority list.

@bold - I remember that too. That level of pandering is something else!

I would say for Jas/Varsha/Kuhu, their fear for Kunal comes from how they feel about Mishti. Since they can't ever feel Mishti belongs, they assume RJVs will also never feel Kunal belongs. The way they are showing Meenu behave now will reinforce that. This is such a wrong message to send. I have no idea why they're doing this in the show.

Originally posted by: Onyourface

I know you will understand this that's why I am explaining it to you , we were strictly talking about how BM and varsha reacted today , it has nothing to do with mishti and kuhu here....

The fact that kuhu doesn't get called out and mishti is blamed forever is itself an injustice and it's a Pratha going on in mahs family and BM and BP are silent on that for years and sometimes even a party to that ....this very fact makes BM arguement that we treat girls equally goes void right...

Being treated as 2nd class citizens in your own family is wrong, whether it was mishti in mahs or it iis kuhu in RVs .I feel more bad for kunal here

But the topic of discussin was about how BM brushed it off saying it's all equal when varsha wasn't even blaming mishti , she was actually blaming meenu and her treatment

Uru I agree with you about BM constantly being on the defensive for Mishti and I really don't think it is the true that for her Kuhu and Mishti are the same. They seem to have way more expectations from Mishti than Kuhu, and we don't see them praising Kuhu as they do Mishti either. But why shouldn't she call Mishti to ask where they were? Would Varsha not do the same for Kuhu? Are you trying to make the point that BM wouldn't do the same if it was Kuhu? But why would she when Varsha or Jasmeet would do it and she could just ask her?

Oh I agree. As I mentioned in response to Pali's post, Varsha/Jasmeet/Kuhu are quick to realize Kunal's position only because of how they feel towards Mishti.

Oh they'll all figure out pretty soon I guess.