Conspiracy Theory - "Double Agent" Vansh / "Master Player" Riddhima - Page 6

Originally posted by: libran90

On Vansh I agree. Sometimes I feel he's this agent who entered this family because they don't recognize the real Vansh. Maybe the real Vansh was missing or abroad. And who said that he's actually doing illegal dealings? Everything we've seen so far is legit. It's only what people are saying to say it's illegal. So how do we know it's illegal?

Well, I think he is the real Vansh only, not an imposter. But I think he is crooked for the right reasons. There is more to this criminal act. I don't find his story so simple. Kabir thinks Vansh is some lock and Riddhima is the key to him and she can unlock his destruction. But is Riddhima truly the enemy in the disguise of a friend or she is the friend in the guise of the enemy.

On Riddhima, for someone who is so clumsy, she always manages to get away when it matters most. Like she threw that cloth and then gave excuse of nails. Somewhere I felt she knew Kabir was there and would save her. Or when she made that call. She seemed to know it would lead Vansh to Kabir. It's like whatever she's doing is to get Kabir caught by Vansh.

Hain na, I always find her goof ups so deliberate. It's like she wants Kabir to get caught, she wants to put Kabir in trouble and whenever he tries to escape with her, she always stops. She does not want to leave so easily. On the surface, it looks like she is doing for his love, but I don't buy it. Also, when Riddhima was describing love to Vansh, it seemed more like she was talking about herself and her experience in love, and it did not seem like she was speaking about Kabir. Well, I may be wrong.

I feel Riddhima is truly the key to the entire mystery. The way she acts around both Kabir and Vansh is defining who she is. But it's also hiding a lot. She appears so straightforward and yet still so deceptive.

Sometimes I feel she's actually with Vansh. Other times she actually seems to be with Kabir. And now I'm convinced that what you said is right. She might be back to take revenge from both for something else.

Originally posted by: libran90

I am back again with the conspiracy thread 3 & 4 this week. I had two theories that have been making rounds in my mind and so I decided to put them together. These are just theories and I may be wrong, but what is the point of watching a thriller, if there aren't twists and turns in the way. So, here we go.

Vansh is a "double agent" in the guise of a white-collared criminal

So I have this thought running in my mind for a while now, what if Vansh isn't the white-collared criminal as described by Kabir. What if he is actually the opposite? All those who have seen thriller movies must be aware of double agents. Let's take the most spoken example in all our topics - Raazi. Sehmat's father was a "double agent" where he actually was working for the Indian government and was also an agent for the Pakistani government, but that was the actual facade. So that could also be the case with Vansh. Vansh from the beginning has been shown as a businessman with an illegal front on the side, and Kabir is the cop who is after him. But is this such a simple story. Well, I don't think so.

See, I am not looking at whitewashing the guy. I have seen many shows where there have been mafia and the stories have been about the lives and love of these characters, and I have enjoyed these shows - like Begusarai. I enjoyed watching it. But with this show, there is always this thing in the back of the mind that is all is not as what it seems. Just like I find Kabir as CBI agent dubious, so do I find his mafiagiri dubious. See, we have seen instances of Vansh's "illegal" dealings. But what happened to those people who struck a deal with him. So these are my questions:

1. Did these "clients" just get away or was there more to it?

2. Did Neha just fall to her death, or was there more to her death?

3. Does "Shera" really have any meaningful details of his illegal clientele or is it something if goes in the wrong hands then it will hurt innocent people?

4. Is he really working as a mafia or he is the mafia facade for the cops to catch hold of criminals?

5. Is the confidence that Vansh wears on his face when dealing with Kabir that of a cold and ruthless mafia boss or that of a strong character who will use all crooked means to do the right thing?

Let us see. As much as Vansh as a mafia boss is dubious, so is Riddhima's "Miss Oh-so-innocent" act dubious. That takes me to my next conspiracy theory.

Riddhima is the 3rd "master player" of this game all are underestimating

So, Riddhima, who is oh-so-innocent and a 2 rupee spy as well is someone who is grossly underestimated. See, when it comes to perception, as an individual we know who we are, others just believe the perception they have of us. Kabir believes Riddhima is innocent and has the personality of water, Vansh believes she is the lamb sent to hunt the hunter, in the family, some see her as a gold-digger and some see her as a ray of light for Vansh.

She may be shown as the pawn in this game between Vansh and Kabir, but I actually have another theory for this game. My instincts tell me that Riddhima is not a new pawn, but an old pawn who has returned with a new agenda to get even - either with Vansh or Kabir or both.

Riddhima is shown as an orphan who has a simple life and wants a simple life with Kabir. She can cross all limits for the man she loves. She has gone to spy on Vansh for Kabir. Yahaan tak to sab thik hai. But phir bhi locha hai ladki me. First of all, itni buri spying in the history of spying maine kabhi nahi dekhi. It's like she is deliberately trying to goof up, to come under Vansh's radar. And she continuously prodding Kabir to risk his cover or blowing his cover. And I don't know why, I always feel like whenever Vansh sees her, he recognizes her, but still cannot. Riddhima is not an innocent character. I feel that she is that same woman who triggered the animosity between Vansh and Kabir, or rather she was used to trigger it by either Vansh or Kabir. And somehow she ended up close to losing her life, but she returned with a new name and identity to get even with people who destroyed her. So my questions are:

1. Who spies so badly that your handler is at the risk of getting his cover blown?

2. Knowing Vansh, who calls from a new phone that too to her boyfriend she wants to protect?

3. Why does Vansh always look at her like he knows her?

4. Why does it seem that Riddhima did not enter the house for Kabir, but for herself?

5. Why does it seem that Riddhima knows what she is doing, and isn't as amateur as she is showing?

Well, too many questions. Sadly, we will not know so soon. But what we can know is your views. Do share guys.😊

@libran as usual your Conspiracy Theories are awesome & insightful.However I disagree with your theory that VR is a double agent though I must say that VR inspite of being a Mafia is an intuitive agent 10 times better than our sloppy one Kabir.

Anyway if at all Ridzi is the Master-Player here (though she does not look like one) & playing both with the lives of Kabir & VR then she's kind of like Durga of EHT/Alia of Twisted Web Series but I don't feel that she's the master-player here.Her sloppy strategies has resulted on the Sword of Damocles hanging over her head every time.She's an untrained Spy-pure & simple.If she wanted revenge then there would be a promo indicating her intentions though I don't rule her out bcoz even Arohi had become the Femme Fatale at one point during her revenge saga against Deep.Ridzi's cruel experiences might put her on the path on being the Femme Fatale if not now.Infact she's started being a better agent now conditioned by VR's experience & Kabir's love.

And the blunt truth is how much soever Kabir is panned his fake love is giving her the strength now against VR.

Getting back to VR I hope he's not the agent.He's currently slaying in the Mafia role.VR as a Mafia suits much better than being this secret agent though he can be a good-hearted Mafia for Ridzi & the cold one for others.His character exudes the Mafia traits.He has that commanding screen presence with the addition of an incredible aura around him which makes others bow down/notice/admire him.He can be hated but not ignored.

Riddhima is the 3rd "master player" of this game all are underestimating. My instincts tell me that Riddhima is not a new pawn, but an old pawn who has returned with a new agenda to get even - either with Vansh or Kabir or both.

She might be or she might be not.Let's say for one moment she's being this Player here why would she repeat the sloppy things just to draw VR's attention towards her? And if she's the one who caused the animosity then VR/Kabir would have known this straightaway unless she had a plastic surgery & came back with a new face.Infact being the player she could have quietly observed the surroundings including VR's family members.She would have done some helpful deeds or created fake situations to ingratiate herself into the VR clan gaining their trust & credibility.

VR was already suspicious of her right from the onset of the series.

Originally posted by: Ayeshi29

I’m pretty much agree with your conspiracy theory, I do sometimes feel that Vansh is a double agent and Riddhima as mastermind. I do sometimes feel what if Riddhima is the girl from Vansh past and came back for revenge just like Chaal Cheh or Maat. I do sometimes get Wanted movie vibes from Vansh let’s see how things play out as I seriously would want to see this conspiracy theory being true as that would fit the thriller genre

Exactly, I had mentioned in a thread once that it would be great if Riddhima turns out to be like Aditi from Chal Sheh aur Maat. And Vansh's illegal dealings can be as simple as shown or probably not. A lot will be clear when all their history will come out in the open.

Originally posted by: Riya_Singh2

this is so true abhi tak kuch nahi dikhaya bataya hai kisi ke bhi baare mein 🤔

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Originally posted by: A4Anjie

Yes I think it, too. There was similar plot in a serial ' Sajda tere pyar me' - where a CBI agent comes across humsfhakal of a Don's girl friend (who is dead) - and trains and uses that humshakal to get closer to the Don / criminal.

I don't think Humshakal wala scene hai like Sajda, but I surely think that Riddhima is not such a lost case as they are trying to show. Even in Season 1, Arohi was apprehensive of Deep initially, yahaan to alag hi pagalpan chal raha hai. Let's see. How right am I.

Here, I think Ridh is humshakal or same girl VRS was in love with - in any accident she lost the past memory - kabir knows it or just thinks she is humshakal only and uses her as a weapon to get control on VRS ( I remember VRS said twice - main do baar dhoka nahi kha sakata)

I think her face has changed and so has her identity because whenever Vansh observes her, I always feel that he looks like he knows her, but then the VR in him overwhelms Vansh and he just sees another suspect or traitor in her.

Originally posted by: masked

@libran as usual your Conspiracy Theories are awesome & insightful.However I disagree with your theory that VR is a double agent though I must say that VR inspite of being a Mafia is an intuitive agent 10 times better than our sloppy one Kabir.

Thanks, @masked.😊 Theory hai, waise I don't mind any aspect of Vansh yaar. Woh mafia bhi sahi hai. But sochne me kya jaata hai

Anyway if at all Ridzi is the Master-Player here (though she does not look like one) & playing both with the lives of Kabir & VR then she's kind of like Durga of EHT/Alia of Twisted Web Series but I don't feel that she's the master-player here.Her sloppy strategies has resulted on the Sword of Damocles hanging over her head every time.She's an untrained Spy-pure & simple.If she wanted revenge then there would be a promo indicating her intentions though I don't rule her out bcoz even Arohi had become the Femme Fatale at one point during her revenge saga against Deep.Ridzi's cruel experiences might put her on the path on being the Femme Fatale if not now.Infact she's started being a better agent now conditioned by VR's experience & Kabir's love.

You are right, it can be Riddhima is a simple girl, but itni maha burbak heroine maine kam hi dekhi hai. Jo itni third class tareeke se spy karti hai.

And the blunt truth is how much soever Kabir is panned his fake love is giving her the strength now against VR.

Dekho, I don't know iss Kabir ka actual kya scene chal raha hai. But yes, Riddhima's faith in Kabir has kept her going. So, let's see what happens next in the Kabir - Riddhima equation.

Getting back to VR I hope he's not the agent.He's currently slaying in the Mafia role.VR as a Mafia suits much better than being this secret agent though he can be a good-hearted Mafia for Ridzi & the cold one for others.His character exudes the Mafia traits.He has that commanding screen presence with the addition of an incredible aura around him which makes others bow down/notice/admire him.He can be hated but not ignored.

@bold: Agent ho ya na ho, Mafia ho to Vansh jaisa ho😆

Riddhima is the 3rd "master player" of this game all are underestimating. My instincts tell me that Riddhima is not a new pawn, but an old pawn who has returned with a new agenda to get even - either with Vansh or Kabir or both.

She might be or she might be not.Let's say for one moment she's being this Player here why would she repeat the sloppy things just to draw VR's attention towards her? And if she's the one who caused the animosity then VR/Kabir would have known this straightaway unless she had a plastic surgery & came back with a new face.Infact being the player she could have quietly observed the surroundings including VR's family members.She would have done some helpful deeds or created fake situations to ingratiate herself into the VR clan gaining their trust & credibility.

@bold: Well, we don't know that Riddhima hasn't done all that already. Wohi to janna hai. Dekhte hai, kya hota hai

VR was already suspicious of her right from the onset of the series.

Woh to hai. But usme Riddhima ka contribution bahut hai.

Originally posted by: libran90

I am back again with the conspiracy thread 3 & 4 this week. I had two theories that have been making rounds in my mind and so I decided to put them together. These are just theories and I may be wrong, but what is the point of watching a thriller, if there aren't twists and turns in the way. So, here we go.

Vansh is a "double agent" in the guise of a white-collared criminal

So I have this thought running in my mind for a while now, what if Vansh isn't the white-collared criminal as described by Kabir. What if he is actually the opposite? All those who have seen thriller movies must be aware of double agents. Let's take the most spoken example in all our topics - Raazi. Sehmat's father was a "double agent" where he actually was working for the Indian government and was also an agent for the Pakistani government, but that was the actual facade. So that could also be the case with Vansh. Vansh from the beginning has been shown as a businessman with an illegal front on the side, and Kabir is the cop who is after him. But is this such a simple story. Well, I don't think so.

See, I am not looking at whitewashing the guy. I have seen many shows where there have been mafia and the stories have been about the lives and love of these characters, and I have enjoyed these shows - like Begusarai. I enjoyed watching it. But with this show, there is always this thing in the back of the mind that is all is not as what it seems. Just like I find Kabir as CBI agent dubious, so do I find his mafiagiri dubious. See, we have seen instances of Vansh's "illegal" dealings. But what happened to those people who struck a deal with him. So these are my questions:

1. Did these "clients" just get away or was there more to it?

2. Did Neha just fall to her death, or was there more to her death?

3. Does "Shera" really have any meaningful details of his illegal clientele or is it something if goes in the wrong hands then it will hurt innocent people?

4. Is he really working as a mafia or he is the mafia facade for the cops to catch hold of criminals?

5. Is the confidence that Vansh wears on his face when dealing with Kabir that of a cold and ruthless mafia boss or that of a strong character who will use all crooked means to do the right thing?

Let us see. As much as Vansh as a mafia boss is dubious, so is Riddhima's "Miss Oh-so-innocent" act dubious. That takes me to my next conspiracy theory.

Riddhima is the 3rd "master player" of this game all are underestimating

So, Riddhima, who is oh-so-innocent and a 2 rupee spy as well is someone who is grossly underestimated. See, when it comes to perception, as an individual we know who we are, others just believe the perception they have of us. Kabir believes Riddhima is innocent and has the personality of water, Vansh believes she is the lamb sent to hunt the hunter, in the family, some see her as a gold-digger and some see her as a ray of light for Vansh.

She may be shown as the pawn in this game between Vansh and Kabir, but I actually have another theory for this game. My instincts tell me that Riddhima is not a new pawn, but an old pawn who has returned with a new agenda to get even - either with Vansh or Kabir or both.

Riddhima is shown as an orphan who has a simple life and wants a simple life with Kabir. She can cross all limits for the man she loves. She has gone to spy on Vansh for Kabir. Yahaan tak to sab thik hai. But phir bhi locha hai ladki me. First of all, itni buri spying in the history of spying maine kabhi nahi dekhi. It's like she is deliberately trying to goof up, to come under Vansh's radar. And she continuously prodding Kabir to risk his cover or blowing his cover. And I don't know why, I always feel like whenever Vansh sees her, he recognizes her, but still cannot. Riddhima is not an innocent character. I feel that she is that same woman who triggered the animosity between Vansh and Kabir, or rather she was used to trigger it by either Vansh or Kabir. And somehow she ended up close to losing her life, but she returned with a new name and identity to get even with people who destroyed her. So my questions are:

1. Who spies so badly that your handler is at the risk of getting his cover blown?

2. Knowing Vansh, who calls from a new phone that too to her boyfriend she wants to protect?

3. Why does Vansh always look at her like he knows her?

4. Why does it seem that Riddhima did not enter the house for Kabir, but for herself?

5. Why does it seem that Riddhima knows what she is doing, and isn't as amateur as she is showing?

Well, too many questions. Sadly, we will not know so soon. But what we can know is your views. Do share guys.😊

This conspiracy theory is too good to be true. I doubt itv writers will write something as interesting as this. I kinda hope tho. I would love to see this twist👏

@libran90:

I am so happy to find this post...after watching immj2 so far dimag mein bohot sawal ae the and had nobody to share...Good to know I m not the only one who thinks nothing is as it seems about these three characters...

Kabir...the dedicated CBI agent who wants to catch criminal Vansh was angry over murder of another fellow agent and sent his gf undercover to vansh in a desparate move but is now oh so worried about her.......Well don't think so..the enmity is personal between vansh kabir clearly and he is obsessed with catching vansh..I wouldn't be shocked if Kabir had some bad intention and didn't really love Riddhima and only is using her since he thinks she is an innocent stupid and orphan ( not saying that's what will definitely happen ) ...he clearly thinks Riddhima innocent but kabir may not be as dutiful a CBI agent as he would like everyone to believe...

Vansh...the apparent bad guy so far... business man with illegal business and anyone who cheated him he kills them... ruthless dangerous resourceful dark character...But but but...I have kind of the same questions about him you asked...is his illegal dealings really illegal? What about the clients then...we have been told many times he has illegal dealings but have we really seen anything clearly illegal so far...and the agent who died..Neha? When she was falling it was shown from a great distance from Kabir's pov right...I feel it's not as simple as Vansh caught and killed her..there is more to it...and Shera...the way he was telling Angre about Shera it's like he was giving a lecture to a full audiance 😋 So what if there is nothing stored or nothing that's important...shera was introduced right after he told Riddhima he will marry her right..what if he was saying all that about shera coz he knew Riddhima is listening and he wanted to trap Riddhima and her associate through this whole trap that includes both marriage and shera...and yeah there is also a good possibility that he wants to trap Kabir and all this illegal dealings news are just a trap for him, he is not really illegal..I mean he is not a heartless criminal anyway...keeps saying family comes first( maybe the enmity is something to do with family or Sia specially)..he loves his family.. it's some family members that are bad...Vansh is a multilayered character that we have just started to see the surface only I think...he is not as he seems I feel...

Last but most important Riddhima...Ms oh_so_innocent pawn victim orphan bechari Riddhima...bf k lie dangerous Vansh Raisinghania k ghar spy hoke ghus gayi but all she apparently does is get scared, make dumb moves and almost get caught regularly...like really?? Well I have the same doubts u do...no one can be this bad unless it's deliberate... specially that call from new phn given by Vansh...that was so impossibly dumb k it begged the question does she want to get kabir caught? And the nails in the cloth she threw...how did she know kabir would hear her and put the nails there...she was completely out of touch yet somehow she managed to make this coincidence happen...keeps dragging kabir into vansh's proximity... another thing...have you seen how she is with Vansh...she would like us to believe she is terrified around him but she keeps coming under his rader too much..has too many interaction with Vansh for someone scared or hateful...keeps being around Vansh..not to mention her and Vansh's eyelocks...its like both of the feels this pull for each other that they can't ignore...and Riddhima has had some hidden knowledge lately in her eyes..some inner strength and something else I can't define...I could be wrong but something tells me she is not orphan and she is not Riddhima and neither vansh nor kabir knows but she is in team Vansh or atleast she is not enemy of Vansh whatever her own agenda may be...and she has her own agenda for entering vr mansion and is not as trapped there as she is pretending...

Another thing...in his back garden Vansh has someone's statue, Riddhima was spying one episode...and we have been hinted he has a bad love related experience in life...what if Riddhima is not someone new in his life but someone old come back with new face and identity... orphan is too convenient an excuse right...

Well these are just my personal theories but good to see I m not the only one😃 But this show is very interesting so far...all mystery and intrigue and danger...I m loving it so far...😃

P.S. I know its ITV so shouldn't expect detailed conspiracies probably 😛 But its IMMJ season 2... some twists must be there...things surely wont be as black and white as it is being shown now...

Originally posted by: libran90

I m also confused if Riddhi is really sweet and simple or she is also hiding something..

Originally posted by: Rockxz

This conspiracy theory is too good to be true. I doubt itv writers will write something as interesting as this. I kinda hope tho. I would love to see this twist👏

Waise doubts to mujhe bhi hai. Lekin ideas dene me kya jata hai. Kuch achcha hi dekhne ko milega for a change.😆