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For the record: I think Abhimanyu became Karshni only because Krishna was for all practical purposes the father. It takes more than sperm to make a father.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Please take note:

Subhadra is portrayed with open lotus, a symbol of fertility, while Panchali is portrayed with closed lotus. Draw your own conclusions.

Another point: the name Karna calls in dice hall is "bandhaki." We assume it means courtesan, but it can also mean barren woman.

That would mean even Suthanu isn't Draupadi's daughter

Aside if you take it in large, what would that statement mean.

She has been with five woman and is hence barren such women have no respect??

The line didn't make much sense

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Yes in Hindi Sanskrit Indian languages I meant

This point therefore isn't a big support to the claim. But why is he called Krishna's son no just once but multiple times

Krishna is also known as Yashodanandan , well Yashoda is krishna's foster mother, who raised him not original mother ,

I guess with Abhimanyu is termed as krishna's son coz he raised him .

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

That would mean even Suthanu isn't Draupadi's daughter

Aside if you take it in large, what would that statement mean.

She has been with five woman and is hence barren such women have no respect??

The line didn't make much sense

Barren women were treated badly those days. Even now in many places.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

No where in entire mahabharat it's mentioned draupadi or subhadra were not able to give birth to children

Abhimanyu birth is already clear his paternity regarding upandavas I don't know why vedvyas dint mentioned their birth in detail but still draupadi was capable in giving birth why will she go 4 adoption .

Abhimanyu's one name is saubhadra also .

@Bold undoubtedly that's true. Yes Abhimanyu's birth is pretty clearly mentioned

I just want to understand why was he called Krishna's son so many times and why he n his son were preferred over Prativindhya n his son over the throne

Maybe Abhimanyu is normal Arjun Subhadra's son, but there might also be something more to it

Abhimanyu being called Krishna's son doesn't mean Krishna was his biological father, he is called son of Arjuna and Subhadra more times and his birth is described in detail

In my opinion it has more to do with the alliance with Virat, Arjuna had nothing at that time, Krishna would have taken guarantee of Abhimanyu, Why would Virat marry his daughter to people who have nothing?

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Krishna is also known as Yashodanandan , well Yashoda is krishna's foster mother, who raised him not original mother ,

I guess with Abhimanyu is termed as krishna's son coz he raised him .

I guess I don't want to believe that Arjun had relations with a teenager immidiately after a supposed forced marriage that's why was looking for excuses.

You might be right though

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Abhimanyu being called Krishna's son doesn't mean Krishna was his biological father, he is called son of Arjuna and Subhadra more times and his birth is described in detail

In my opinion it has more to do with the alliance with Virat, Arjuna had nothing at that time, Krishna would have taken guarantee of Abhimanyu, Why would Virat marry his daughter to people who have nothing?

Oh ho look who is back

Yes I agree to your point

Karshini could actually mean protectorate of Krishna and not necessarily son of Krishna

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Barren women were treated badly those days. Even now in many places.

Yes I understand, on second thought that line could actually mean that she has been with five men, yet she is barren, what respect does such woman deserve.

Logical statement actually, he proved that the issue was with her n not the guys, since she has already tried 5 of them

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Oh ho look who is back

Yes I agree to your point

Karshini could actually mean protectorate of Krishna and not necessarily son of Krishna

Virat's alliance with Pandavas who had absolutely nothing, with Virat losing so much in the war, it was a bad deal, even now people won't marry their daughter to people who don't even have a home, so Krishna would have played bigger role in this alliance