Shraddha Kapoor, the underdog, is the new numero uno - Page 12

Originally posted by: vsbarry

Shraddha lacks the acting skills But has mass appeal. Alia lacks the looks..she has no mass appeal what so ever and practically no audience who will come to watch her for crap films. her audience comes from metros where they trust her content That’s it. Shraddha -people will go watch her in crap like half girlfriend. Hell even disha patani/Jacqueline Fernandez has more mass appeal than alia

There is no one yet who is able to act decently well and attract the masses period.

Deepika was the last full package when it comes to bollywood heroines. Don't think Alia has the same stardom as Deepika

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Mockery is so, so easy.😆 Much easier than admitting there's a problem.

On IF, these are the kind of people who dismiss the idea there is even a problem in Bollywood:

1. Fans of the bullies of Bollywood who don't think their idols should be called out.

2. Those who are PR people and/or other surrogates.

3. Some who simply want to act holier than thou 😆 like in this thread. Apparently, they believe the likes of Shekhar Kapur are wrong, and they are right. More likely, they see this as a chance to do some cheap virtue signaling.

In Bollywood:

1. The beneficiaries of the cronyism and bullying and outright collusion which is actually ILLEGAL in India and many countries they market their films in. The last point somehow goes over the head of many of the "holy" people who mock those who criticize it.

2. Those who wish they would be beneficiaries 😆

3. Journos and such who are out to make a quick buck and desperately need the contacts.

4. Those simply scared of the mafia in Bollywood.

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

I don’t think you understand the current backlash climate. Firstly - we don’t have a choice, we have to be okay with nepotism because it’s not going anywhere. Do you think any of us have the power to change the nepotism narrative ? Why did Alia and Karan specifically get targeted ? Because they steal opportunities and “create and manipulate content” so that they can elevate Alia. Do others do that? Probably. But nobody has gone to lengths that these two losers have. Would I prefer that an outsider excels and becomes number 1? Ofcourse. But who? There is no one in sight currently.

I can still be against nepotism and still support people like Tiger and Shraddha.. or even a Hrithik. If you’re unable to see the difference between Tiger/Shraddha and Varun, Sara, Alia, Janhvi etc - then that’s something that you are choosing not to see. It’s quite clear how the dynamics and power play work. No one is denying that Shraddha/Tiger don’t have access, contacts or resources. Ofcourse they do. But their story is so different than Alia’s.

Just like Hrithik, Ranbir and Kareena haven’t gotten any backlash either. How come ? Find out.

If you can’t see the difference between Hrithik, Ranbir..... Alia/ Varun and Shraddha-Tiger then perhaps you need to sharpen your knowledge of Bollywood

This makes no sense. How are Tiger, Shraddha any different from Varun, Sara, Janhvi? (Let's keep Alia out of this because people want to believe she stole/manipulated opportunities due to some debatable videos) All of these actors had access and connections. Just like Tiger was launched by NGE or Shraddha YRF so were Varun/Janhvi by Dharma. Even a Hrithik for that matter mainly earned initial success through his father's films so how is that different than a Varun doing DD's films or Janhvi with Dharma? RK or Kareena basically had the same initial career path like Sara so far.

You can't be selective in your support and outrage. It's okay if you like certain actors more for other reasons but it's hypocritical to call out other actors for the exact same stuff, especially when we have no idea what actually goes on behind the scenes.

Originally posted by: HugeScarcity

This makes no sense.

It'll never make sense 😆

Originally posted by: HugeScarcity

This makes no sense. How are Tiger, Shraddha any different from Varun, Sara, Janhvi? (Let's keep Alia out of this because people want to believe she stole/manipulated opportunities due to some videos) All of these actors had access and connections. Just like Tiger was launched by NGE or Shraddha YRF so were Varun/Janhvi by Dharma. Even a Hrithik for that matter mainly earned initial success through his father's films so how is that different than a Varun doing DD's films or Janhvi with Dharma? RK or Kareena basically had the same initial career path like Sara so far.

You can't be selective in your support and outrage. It's okay if you like certain actors more for other reasons but it's hypocritical to call out other actors for the exact same stuff.

Calling someone out simply for doing what they want to do would be meaningless regardless of their talent level. AFAIK, the likes of Hrithik and Shraddha have not planted blinds or mocked outsiders on national TV. They have not as far as we know, bribed others to match roles or colluded to keep outsiders away. If they have, then they should also be called out. Otherwise, its meaningless to call out Hrithik for being Rakesh's son.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Calling someone out simply for doing what they want to do would be meaningless regardless of their talent level. AFAIK, the likes of Hrithik and Shraddha have not planted blinds or mocked outsiders on national TV. They have not as far as we know, bribed others to match roles or colluded to keep outsiders away. If they have, then they should also be called out. Otherwise, its meaningless to call out Hrithik for being Rakesh's son.

Really you need a list from Kangana on what Hrithik did to her. Isnt she the ultimate truth teller

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Seriously Matlab just because I don't agree with the hatred Alia is receiving (who I don't even like much) I can be called a Nepo supporter?😆 bas aj se all those bashing nepotism are Kangana supporters for me (which actually should be a cuss word)😆

LOL, way to change the topic. 👏 I'm not sure why you think my comment was directed at you and why that has then incensed you so much that you think it's equivalent to a cuss word? 😆😆I see a lot of snide comments about people being ridiculous and what not if they're against how nepotism functions in BW but I don't see that derailing the nepo haters, anti-nepo gang, Kangana supporters, general haterzz or whatever other label you have for this group. I guess that's why all that is left to do is to take things as a personal attack ?

If nepo supporters have a problem with the topic, then I also have a problem with their defense of the culture that nepotism breeds by "well that's just how it is...suck it up and live with it..it's his money..he can do whatever he wants with it.." well no I don't want to just live with it. How thankful I am that people part of the civil rights movements years ago didn't just suck it up because that's how it is..if they had, as a woman, I'd have zero rights and opportunities available to me. A lot of things are wrong with the world ...there's a lot of discrimination, racism, inequality and that has ALWAYS been there. But we speak up against it because that is the only way to raise awareness and influence changes, no matter how long they take. I don't know what else I'm supposed to call people defending nepotism other than nepo supporters?

There is a reason why the topic has grown more and more over the years - since Alia's debut you hear about it more - otherwise we talked about star kids here and there. The tactics are more underhanded, there are simply more star kids, their preparation involves of gym, grooming, and parties... more is done today to close the "family" off to others. It wasn't at this level years ago. It's so much that even KJo's BFF's and bona-fide insiders like Twinkle and non-BFF like Aish have publicly taken sly digs at Kjo's tactics for Alia. Imagine, even they notice what nepo supporters here busy denying/defending. Why do KJo and Alia always get so butthurt and defensive when this topic comes up anyways since years (even way before Sushant's death)? You don't react like that unless there's some chori in your heart.

And, this is something I've had a problem with since the beginning ..Alia and KJo and their underhanded ways with nepotism which is a lot more than what it used to be. I've spoken about this since well before Sushant's death. You're welcome to check my posts. The backlash may be excessive now - but clearly the previous ones always fell on deaf ears.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Mockery is so, so easy.😆 Much easier than admitting there's a problem.

On IF, these are the kind of people who dismiss the idea there is even a problem in Bollywood:

1. Fans of the bullies of Bollywood who don't think their idols should be called out.

2. Those who are PR people and/or other surrogates.

3. Some who simply want to act holier than thou 😆 like in this thread. Apparently, they believe the likes of Shekhar Kapur are wrong, and they are right. More likely, they see this as a chance to do some cheap virtue signaling.

In Bollywood:

1. The beneficiaries of the cronyism and bullying and outright collusion which is actually ILLEGAL in India and many countries they market their films in. The last point somehow goes over the head of many of the "holy" people who mock those who criticize it.

2. Those who wish they would be beneficiaries 😆

3. Journos and such who are out to make a quick buck and desperately need the contacts.

4. Those simply scared of the mafia in Bollywood.

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

Really you need a list from Kangana on what Hrithik did to her. Isnt she the ultimate truth teller

I'm not a Kangana fan. There's exactly one person I like in Bollywood, and she's definitely not it.

Originally posted by: gilmores

LOL, way to change the topic. 👏 I'm not sure why you think my comment was directed at you and why that has then incensed you so much that you think it's equivalent to a cuss word? 😆😆I see a lot of snide comments about people being ridiculous and what not if they're against how nepotism functions in BW but I don't see that derailing the nepo haters, anti-nepo gang, Kangana supporters, general haterzz or whatever other label you have for this group. I guess that's why all that is left to do is to take things as a personal attack ?

If nepo supporters have a problem with the topic, then I also have a problem with their defense of the culture that nepotism breeds by "well that's just how it is...suck it up and live with it..it's his money..he can do whatever he wants with it.." well no I don't want to just live with it. How thankful I am that people part of the civil rights movements years ago didn't just suck it up because that's how it is..if they had, as a woman, I'd have zero rights and opportunities available to me. A lot of things are wrong with the world ...there's a lot of discrimination, racism, inequality and that has ALWAYS been there. But we speak up against it because that is the only way to raise awareness and influence changes, no matter how long they take.

There is a reason why the topic has grown more and more over the years - since Alia's debut you hear about it more - otherwise we talked about star kids here and there. The tactics are more underhanded, there are simply more star kids, their preparation involves of gym, grooming, and parties... more is done today to close the "family" off to others. It wasn't at this level years ago. It's so much that even KJo's BFF's and bona-fide insiders like Twinkle and non-BFF like Aish have publicly taken sly digs at Kjo's tactics for Alia. Imagine, even they notice what nepo supporters here busy denying/defending. Why do KJo and Alia always get so butthurt and defensive when this topic comes up anyways since years (even way before Sushant's death)? You don't react like that unless there's some chori in your heart.

And, this is something I've had a problem with since the beginning ..Alia and KJo and their underhanded ways with nepotism which is a lot more than what it used to be. I've spoken about this since well before Sushant's death. You're welcome to check my posts. The backlash may be excessive now - but clearly the previous ones always fell on deaf ears.

I already said my comment wasn't particularly about your comment

As for the rest, blah😆 you lost my interest the moment you didn't realize that the cuss word was sarcasm😆