Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 5 - Page 54

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Yes her father fought for Dury apparently

Tab to pacca Devika was dead, there could be no reason to fight for the enemy of your son in law

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Tab to pacca Devika was dead, there could be no reason to fight for the enemy of your son in law

I think his military forces were submissive to Jaydrath so his forces had to fight for Kauravas.

Originally posted by: Andy3456

Arre instead of arresting Shri Krishna, he'll arrest Radha and then Krishna will be angry and show Virat Roop.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

First and foremost, relationship was Dasi wasn't illegal or illegitimate, that's the exact reason why Dasis were kept, for menial jobs they had Sevikas.

Only the owner had the right to have relations with the Dasi (or anyone he permitted. But if the person excluding the master impregnated her, there could be punishments unless she admits to have the wishes of a kid) They couldn't marry or have a family otherwise.

In fact Sabha Parva clearly states that after enjoying their dinner the Pandavas had a musical night post which they went to relax in their cabins with most beautiful maidens (this is the night before the dice game)

The TV shows have holier than thou Pandavas so they decide to not do what was the norm during those days

Coming to not having kids by Dasis, people avoided having kids by Dasis, they maintained their timings such that the Dasi isn't impregnated during relation. Because Manusmriti is very clear that if a Dasi is impregnated by her master, she is immidiately freed from Dasatva. However she always remained a responsibility of the ex master. This means you have provide for her, but can't ask any favour from her.

The kids were also born free but the master had to openly accept them as their own child and give the same rights as other children excluding the inheritance right.

Having a kid by Dasi was a loss loss situation for the master

Did queens were well aware of it & as u said if dasi get impregnate by her master , she will be free from slavery.

I guess many dasi may try to get really pregnant to get free 4 slavery . Kon slavery main rehna chahega.

Yuyutsu & vidur both r dasi putra

Normal life kaha show ki jati hai Pandavas ki

Originally posted by: Andy3456

I think his military forces were submissive to Jaydrath so his forces had to fight for Kauravas.

From what I read Shibi kingdom(Yudi ka sasural), Gandhar and one kingdom more were somehow subservient to Hastinapur. So in war all three of these fought for Dury.

Double post

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Did queens were well aware of it & as u said if dasi get impregnate by her master , she will be free from slavery.

I guess many dasi may try to get really pregnant to get free 4 slavery . Kon slavery main rehna chahega.

Yuyutsu & vidur both r dasi putra

Normal life kaha show ki jati hai Pandavas ki

Of course queens were aware of it. As I said it was a very common norm. That was the main duty of the Dasis of any male. It's as normal as a person would approach his wife.

The slave girls definitely would have wanted to get pregnant, but do you think they would have not been tested to ensure their time isn't due? The dasis were generally called after Ritu Snan the time one has least chance of getting pregnant. They must have taken other precautions too. Slaves had sub human treatment. Why do you think Pandavas were quite even after seeing Draupadi facing so much

Yuyutsu is actually called as the son of Vaishya wife in KMG, I guess she was freed after Yuyutsu's birth and Dhritrashtra married her, or maybe since she remained a protectorate of Dhritrashtra so KMG calls her Vaishya wife but anyhow she doesn't remain a Dasi post this

Vidur was a different case, his mom wasn't the Dasi of Vichitraveer, but of his wives, they sent her to Vyas with her approval for child bearing. In this case there is not much case on anyone..

Both Yuyutsu and Vidur were given the same education as their brothers, were openly accepted in society as sons of Dhritrashtra and Vyas respectively

Pandavas life is not very openly described but nowhere it's mentioned that they didn't practice this regular norm. Yudhishtir had umpteen number of Dasis, they are said to have relaxed with most beautiful maidens the night just before the dice hall day, they had kids out of wedlock. What exactly makes you feel they didn't have relations with Dasis

Drapaudi was staked and latter exiled because she held an important political position. Chandal chaukdi actually wanted her out of the scenario. Devika subdhara and others did not had any such power or position. They weren't any important enough that chandal chaukdi would target them. Simple.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Don't believe Yudi , amoung all Pandavas draupadi served Yudi d most coz she was full time queen not one year .

Arjun doesn't use 2 stay in indraprastha for very long as he was very busy coz he was in-charge of military forces. Even in exile arjun was most of d time away from draupadi & Pandavas.

Draupadi spent very less time with arjun .

Queen s job was not serve the king. What kind of logic is that.

She had more duties and responsibilities. Important works to fullfilll. Its hard to manage an entire kingdom. I don't think she had that much time for any of her husbands.

Originally posted by: Mages

if she is worship with krishna means she is mention

radha is part of lakshmi too

Worshipped or not but she is certainly not mentioned in mb harivasma or even bhagwatam.

And she is certainly not Lakshmi.

Plus all the oldest temple of krishna does not have radha in it.