Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 3 - Page 53

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

No, I don't find it offensive.

Not so much Aryan hatred as North Indian hatred in my opinion. Yes, there have been essays about Aryan invasion, but at the core of it is resentment of people from the north.

Reasons in my opinion:

1. We get lumped together as south Indians or worse Madrasis. There are 5 states in south India apart from union territories with at least 6 languages that I know of. It is offensive. Also offensive is Bollywood's portrayal of the south. Now, this last part has been changing.

2. The language imposition. Most southies are well aware that when India was formed, and education system planned, the idea was to ensure southern languages got as much importance. Most south states teach Hindi in addition to English and mother tongue. Most of the Hindi belt reneged on the agreement. In addition, there are moves to make medium of communication for official purposes Hindi. Plus, the push for Hindi to be made mandatory for civil services exam which will definitely leave south Indians at a disadvantage because no matter how we try, it's not our native language. Not to be forgotten is the fact that Tamil is actually older than Sanskrit from which Hindi was derived.

3. The people moving in. Part of this is territorialism. But the new migrants don't make an effort to fit in. I'll give you an example. The Gujarati community in Kerala opened a branch of a famous chain restaurant called Appito.

Problem is "appito" in local language means "did you poop?" The owners were surprised no one was coming in. It took Shashi Tharoor to post on FB, asking them if it never occured to them to hire a local liaison who would definitely have told them the name wouldn't work.

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I'm aware this is a one-sided recounting, but when I'm actually on one side, I can only see that clearly, right?

As far as gods and stories are concerned, I've met only a handful who objected. Yes, most do think Shiva was the original south Indian deity with the rest brought in by Aryans. But no one particularly cares. Heck, even the St Mary Church in Vailankanni has more Hindu devotees than Christian. We are an accepting bunch where gods are concerned. The more the merrier.

Thanks for the response

Hmm that gives a good insight.

And if Sangam literature has any truth in it, which i assume it has, it clearly shows that even in those days there was no separate nation feelings for the North Indians.

This divide has actually deepen lately

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

SPK exceeded StarBharat in cringe and ridiculous exaggeration. 🤣

That's why I hope Suryadev would have cancelled his Sony subscription

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

That's why I hope Suryadev would have cancelled his Sony subscription

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Which means done with ⭐️Bhishma striking poses for invisible photographers. 😆

I am fan of the poses that he gave standing on the chariot 🤣

Re: Karna's armor.

Remember, this was iron age. Armor would have been heavy, hindering battle.

This was also around the time steel started being made, but I think it first started around Turkey, not India as we know it. Hittite empire was going on in Anatolia/Turkey at the time. The 2 most important deities of the Hittites were Sun Goddess and Sun God.

My best guess would be the solar dynasty of Anga had connections with the Hittites and provided steel.

Imagine the diff it would make. Lightweight armor, giving Karna maneuvering ability and near complete protection from the iron arrows.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

SPK exceeded StarBharat in cringe and ridiculous exaggeration. 🤣

Star Bharat seemed like Gospel in front of SPK

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Re: Karna's armor.

Remember, this was iron age. Armor would have been heavy, hindering battle.

This was also around the time steel started being made, but I think it first started around Turkey, not India as we know it. Hittite empire was going on in Anatolia/Turkey at the time. The 2 most important deities of the Hittites were Sun Goddess and Sun God.

My best guess would be the solar dynasty of Anga had connections with the Hittites and provided steel.

Imagine the diff it would make. Lightweight armor, giving Karna maneuvering ability and near complete protection from the iron arrows.

But the wouldn't it be possible to get similar new armour if there were relations? And definitely trade happened between nations

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

But the wouldn't it be possible to get similar new armour if there were relations? And definitely trade happened between nations

Metal might have created, but to shape it into an armor wouldn't be easy. You would need technicians who knew how to do it. My guess would be it was a prototype which they couldn't replicate for whatever reason

Mind you... I'm saying Hittites only because steel was first found in Anatolia and the sun God connection. Plus, Anga was a trading port. The steel mine could've been in Anga for all I know.

Regardless, I think it was steel. Would've made a HUGE diff.

Originally posted by: Andy3456

Yeah😻. Only Shrutakarma is missing otherwise it's fully complete. 😻

It was shrutakarma clicking the pics

the family is complete in the room itself but shrutakarma was clicking the pic🤣i saw one version in YT

so like naughty notorious papa shri who is a amazing photographer,son too follow papa shri footsteps🤣