Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 3 - Page 32

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Do people really think Panchali means wife of 5

I need a head banging icon immidiately

nopes...

panchali means she is princess of panchal

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Palace of illusions is like the worst representation. That literally had Karna sleeping on floor during the 13 years because his love might have been sleeping in pain.

I don't know what do take of it.

Any sane lady should appreciate Draupadi to the core but alas

I don't understand fantasy , which people 4 karna & Draupadi. Why people fail to understand Draupadi never loved karna & was never sorry in marrying five husbands.

People say karna had all 14 quality which Draupadi as nalayani asked but forget lord shiv himself said no single man can have these all 14 quality.

Karna don't respect woman , uska example dyut sabha mai sabko mil chuka tha, karna koi zarurat aur haq nhi tha uss sabha mai kuch bhi bolne ka .

I don't remember but in MB war either 15, 16 or 17 karna was asking location of arjun on Warfield by his soldiers , he said something like if give away my wife to person who tells d location of arjun 2 him.

Aise hi kuch hai.

Ha karna galat hua tha , par vo Draupadi ki vajah se nhi hua tha, as per my knowledge Draupadi dint stopped karn but karn himself failed in her swayamber.

Aur adharma raj Yudi ke liye mere pass words nhi hai , unka dharma mere sir pe se bounce ho jata hai.

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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I don't understand fantasy , which people 4 karna & Draupadi. Why people fail to understand Draupadi never loved karna & was never sorry in marrying five husbands.

People say karna had all 14 quality which Draupadi as nalayani asked but forget lord shiv himself said no single man can have these all 14 quality.

Karna don't respect woman , uska example dyut sabha mai sabko mil chuka tha, karna koi zarurat aur haq nhi tha uss sabha mai kuch bhi bolne ka .

I don't remember but in MB war either 15, 16 or 17 karna was asking location of arjun on Warfield by his soldiers , he said something like if give away my wife to person who tells d location of arjun 2 him.

Aise hi kuch hai.

Ha karna galat hua tha , par vo Draupadi ki vajah se nhi hua tha, as per my knowledge Draupadi dint stopped karn but karn himself failed in her swayamber.

I am not fond of karna the guy chose his own destruction and he is perfect example that being dhanveer will not wipe away your sins and he has no respect for women

i wanted to read this book after many of u guys wrote abt the awful karna-draupadi chapter which was in the book i change my mind of not reading it

Originally posted by: Mages

nopes...

panchali means she is princess of panchal

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

i know but people think otherwise

I guess they are confused with the word Panch

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

IMO, Panchali's major flaw (if you can call it that) was her refusal to give an inch to the incompetent nincompoop who was the emperor. She bluntly calls him a drunk gambler and a lunatic at various points. Actually, I won't even call this a flaw. Why should she have catered to his whims? Yeah, it likely led to a lot of insecurities on his part which might or might not have led to dice hall events. But his insecurities were his responsibility not hers.

Re: the dislike towards Panchali. The major reason I see is something I've come to call the mother-in-law syndrome. 😆 The attitude seems to be "arrey, how can a woman speak like that to my laadla hero Karna/Yudhishtira/Bheema/Arjuna/Nakula/Sahadeva/Duryodhana/Tom/Dick/Harry? Irawati Karve, whom I otherwise enjoy, showed this precise attitude. She actually said Panchali should have begged Bheeshma for help instead of lecturing him on dharma. It would've been expedient, but why should a woman be asked to sacrifice her sense of right from wrong? Because she is a woman? In fact, Yudhishtira does ask her to come to the dice hall in bare minimum clothing and cry to the elders.

Fact is that Vyasa outright states Panchali was not nice to Yudhishtira. Bheema was putty in her hands. She insults Arjuna left and right a few times. The twins were generally ignored. She calls Karna an insignificant man. AND... forgive me for saying this Arjuna-Panchali shippers, I don't believe it existed on her part except for a brief attraction in the initial days of marriage. In fact, everything after Arjuna's return from exile shows angst on his part, not hers. She most certainly doesn't cry over him which some seem to want her to. So yeah... that wouldn't go over well with shipping type readers who in large part seem to want her to be his trophy.

The worst of all... she won in the end! Yes, she sacrificed a lot, but she knew going in there would be sacrifices. This enrages the mothers-in-law even more. Kunti was actually firmly on Panchali's side, but the modern MILs clearly aren't.

The other reason is her stature in the empire as opposed to the other characters - men and women - in the epic.

This is the year 2020, and people, including women, have a hard time adjusting to the idea of a woman in a powerful role. They do the "I'm a feminist but--" argument. ie, Feminism Lite.

Here is a quote from Dear Ijeawele, or A Feminist Manifesto in Fifteen Suggestions (Author: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie): "But here is a sad truth. Our world is full of men and women who do not like powerful women. We have been so conditioned to think of power as male that a powerful woman is an aberration. And so she is policed. We ask of powerful women: Is she humble? Does she smile? Is she grateful enough? Does she have a domestic side? Questions we do not ask of powerful men, which shows that our discomfort is not with power itself, but with women. We judge powerful women more harshly than we judge powerful men. And Feminism Lite enables this."

Re her relationship with pandavas there are misgivings and complaints in every relationship. She had logical reasons to be angry with them. Discontented with them

I see nothing wrong in her being strong too.

The only thing I found odd was sacrificing her own children for her justice. But then she would not know that they would die.still a war brings a lot of risk with it. It brings many causalities. innocent soldiers who were not part of their family politics were killed too. There was almost no one left to dwell in happiness from the good rule of yudishthir. The justice way could have been personal with only the karuravas karna and shakuni being punished. Even vikarna who actually stood up for her was killed. If the war was to acquire land back which was not given to them and was unfair, I understand but if it is projected as being for the greater good or as a justice for what happened with panchali I do not see a greater good with so many people dying and her own family ie children killed

Originally posted by: Mages

I just read it😲

I am in shock💔

he hang himself😲😭

Shocking. One of the few actors who shifted to Bollywood from TV successfully.

He had so much going well for him career wise. He was one of the current generation mainstream actors. He has a hit movie a year back and one was to release in may which got postponed due to COVID. Why would he do this.

how many katha was aired?

if i am not mistake arjun&draupadi mahakatha only rite?