Abhimanyu and Chakravyuh - Page 2

Originally posted by: proteeti

I think the replenishment of the broken layers was not internal. Rather there were benched soldiers sitting outside who ran to fill the outer gaps. This made entering the vyuha almost impossible.

But, in the inner circles, this replenishment was not possible, so the only way to break this vyuh was to enter and then start killing in a spiral manner, but keep the outer layer intact so benched soldiers cannot join in.

Abhimanyu entered with his chariot means he had created a gap large enough to fit his chariot, its like warriors other than 7 key players are negligible

Even so, how did they stop the chakravyuh after Abhi's death?

For some reasons, the whole story is not considering anyone apart from 4 Pandavas and Abhimanyu in the picture, There was satyaki too

He could have stopped Jayadrath, It's just weird how Pandavas were stopped by him and didn't think of finding a way to go after Abhi

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Even so, how did they stop the chakravyuh after Abhi's death?

For some reasons, the whole story is not considering anyone apart from 4 Pandavas and Abhimanyu in the picture, There was satyaki too

He could have stopped Jayadrath, It's just weird how Pandavas were stopped by him and didn't think of finding a way to go after Abhi

Satyaki didn't know how to enter the Chakravyuh which got resealed after Abhi entered.

After Abhi they didn't stop the Chakravyuh they simply retreated to a devensive position until that sunset.

Originally posted by: proteeti

Satyaki didn't know how to enter the Chakravyuh which got resealed after Abhi entered.

After Abhi they didn't stop the Chakravyuh they simply retreated to a devensive position until that sunset.

Abhi entered with his chariot

I meant Satyaki could have defeated Jayadrath, He had a boon against 4 Pandavas

Moreover, Abhimanyu wasn't an experienced warrior, He learned this from his mamas, Why didn't they do what Abhimanyu did to enter the chakravyuh? Once they saw his move,they could have replicated it

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Abhi entered with his chariot

I meant Satyaki could have defeated Jayadrath, He had a boon against 4 Pandavas

Satyaki was a Rathi and Jayadradh was a Dwi-rathi. Also I think Jayadradh was still fighting from inside the safety of the chakravyuh.

I don't think the trick was replicable and it was more like a skill-based thing. In total only Drona, Bheeshma, Arjun, Krishna and Pradyumna knew the full trick.

Drona was on the other side, Bheeshma had fallen; Arjun-Krishna were away and busy and Prady wasn't fighting.

Isiliye Abhi became their only option. YBNS thought they would be able to use brute force to break through folowing Abhi but they couldn't match up to Abhi's speed.

Originally posted by: proteeti

Satyaki was a Rathi and Jayadradh was a Dwi-rathi. Also I think Jayadradh was still fighting from inside the safety of the chakravyuh.

I don't think the trick was replicable and it was more like a skill-based thing. In total only Drona, Bheeshma, Arjun, Krishna and Pradyumna knew the full trick.

Drona was on the other side, Bheeshma had fallen; Arjun-Krishna were away and busy and Prady wasn't fighting.

Isiliye Abhi became their only option. YBNS thought they would be able to use brute force to break through folowing Abhi but they couldn't match up to Abhi's speed.

Pandavas couldn't enter because of Jayadrath, What about other warriors?

I think there were other warriors aiding Jayadrath, who together stopped the whole Pandava front...😳

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Big ones were inside hence not directly accessible I think. Someone had to enter to ensure they are reached to. On the other had the top Kauravas from inside were constantly targeting the Pandava army

The Chakravyu is not clearly defined in detay either. Probably it was something we aren't able to decipher

If they could attack Pandava army from inside, Pandava army could have attacked them from outside

I guess the size of Chakravyuh was huge, like a Bhul Bhulaiya, It is entirety possible that Pandavas entered it but they couldn't locate Abhimanyu

Originally posted by: proteeti

I think there were other warriors aiding Jayadrath, who together stopped the whole Pandava front...😳

Same goes for Pandavas

Chakravyuh didn't have 100% Kaurava

But Pandavas outside Chakravyuh had 99.9% of their army to fight the chakravyuh

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Same goes for Pandavas

Chakravyuh didn't have 100% Kaurava

But Pandavas outside Chakravyuh had 99.9% of their army to fight the chakravyuh

That army was already pretty small.

Ab this portion is pretty vague in the texts, a lot of it is up to interpretation. 😳

But things really don't add up if you see, to enter the Chakravyu, he would have created the space but why major Pandava warriors including Dhristdhyumn and Shikhandi didn't come near.

Even if not for the Pandavas, believing that none of their warriors could match the speed with Abhimanyu seems strange

Unless, it was the plan of Kaurav army to let/,lure only one major warrior inside and then jampack the entry point, I somehow feel that was what happened. But since the story was being said to his grandson, that lure was made an act of bravery