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Posted: 5 years ago
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As per the rule Maharathi would fight Maharathi, Ati Maharathi will fight Atirathi etc.


Now Karna was a Maharathi, yet he wanted to have a dual with Arjun. So was Arjun too only a Maharathi, not a Atirathi? In that case how did he combat Bheeshm? Was Bheeshm too just a Maharathi?


So who were the Ati Maharathis in the war

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I think Bheeshma did a counting right before the war...Udyoga Parva ke end mein or Bheeshma Parva ke start mein.

That's when he also calls Karna n Ardha-rathi making the latter retreat.


Dekhna padega...it was a full list there. 😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: proteeti

I think Bheeshma did a counting right before the war...Udyoga Parva ke end mein or Bheeshma Parva ke start mein.

That's when he also calls Karna n Ardha-rathi making the latter retreat.


Dekhna padega...it was a full list there. 😊

Karna was Ardha Rathi?

That's smaller to even a Rathi right? Was he so mediocre? I thought he was a Maharathi while Arjun Bheeshm etc were Ati Maharathi.


If he was only a ArdhRathi then how come he combat a Maharathi Arjun

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Karna was Ardha Rathi?

That's smaller to even a Rathi right? Was he so mediocre? I thought he was a Maharathi while Arjun Bheeshm etc were Ati Maharathi.


If he was only a ArdhRathi then how come he combat a Maharathi Arjun


Bheeshma insulted him as Ardha-rathi, because of his Suta-putra thing. Prowess-wise he was defo a Maha-rathi at least.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I remember only some Rakshas was AtiMaharathi, No human got the title

Was there any AtiMaharathi in Mahabharata?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Don't kill me guys! 🤣

This is from Kaliprasanna Simha version (haven't checked KMG yet).


Kaurava

Uncategorized:

Bhurishrava, Vinda, Anuvinda, Satyaratha+4, Ashwatthama, Bhagadutta, Achala, Vrishak

Chitra-yodhha:

Madhav

Rathi:

Dury+99 , Sudakshina, Neela, Lakshmana, Dushy's son, Danda-dhaar, Shakuni, Paurava, Satyashrava, Jalasandha

Dwi-rathi:

Jayadrath

Ati-rathi:

Kritavarma, Shalya, Somdutta, Drona, Vahlik

Maha-Rathi:

Vrishasena, Satyavana, Alambusha

Ardha-rathi:

Karna


Pandava

Uncategorized:

Virat, Drupada, Jayanta, Ghatotkach

Chitra-yodhha:

Madhav

Rathi:

Yudhishthira, Nakul, Sahdev, Arjun (but a whole adhyay is given to Bheeshma praising him so somewhat confusing), Satyaki, Yudhamanyu, Shikhandi, Kshatradev, Kashik, Neela, Suryadutta, Shankha, Madirashwa, Chitrayudh, Chekitan, Satyadhriti, Vyaghradutta, Chandrasen, Kanva

Ashta-Rathi:

Bheema, Satyajit

Maha-Rathi:

Abhimanyu, Upa-Pandavas, Dhrishtaketu, Satyajit, Vardhyakshemi, Mahaveerya, Rochaman

Ati-Rathi:

Dhrishtadyumna, Shreniman, Vasudaan, Kuntibhoj Purujit,

Ardha-rathi:

Dhrishtadyumna's kid

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Arjun was only a Rathi? This is getting further confusing. This means he was inferior to even Uppandavas.


And who is this AtiRathi Drona in Pandavas side

Again of Abhimanyu was a Maharathi how did he combat a Rathi Lakshman and killed him?? Fir to pehle Adharma usne Kiya.

Aside a Marathi can together fight 12 Rathis. Here is it seems all those who killed him were Rathis and there were only 8 of them. Tab to Abhimanyu Vadh Adharma k category me aani hi nhi Chahiye

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

I remember only some Rakshas was AtiMaharathi, No human got the title

Was there any AtiMaharathi in Mahabharata?

Meghnath of Ramayana was an AtiMaharathi.


But weren't there any in Mahabharata? I thought at least Bheeshm would be

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: proteeti

Don't kill me guys! 🤣

This is from Kaliprasanna Simha version (haven't checked KMG yet).


Kaurava

Uncategorized:

Bhurishrava, Vinda, Anuvinda, Satyaratha+4, Ashwatthama, Bhagadutta, Achala, Vrishak

Chitra-yodhha:

Madhav

Rathi:

Dury+99 , Sudakshina, Neela, Lakshmana, Dushy's son, Danda-dhaar, Shakuni, Paurava, Satyashrava, Jalasandha

Dwi-rathi:

Jayadrath

Ati-rathi:

Kritavarma, Shalya, Somdutta, Drona, Vahlik

Maha-Rathi:

Vrishasena, Satyavana, Alambusha

Ardha-rathi:

Karna


Pandava

Uncategorized:

Virat, Drupada, Jayanta, Ghatotkach

Chitra-yodhha:

Madhav

Rathi:

Yudhishthira, Nakul, Sahdev, Arjun (but a whole adhyay is given to Bheeshma praising him so somewhat confusing), Satyaki, Yudhamanyu, Shikhandi, Kshatradev, Kashik, Neela, Suryadutta, Shankha, Madirashwa, Chitrayudh, Chekitan, Satyadhriti, Vyaghradutta, Chandrasen, Kanva

Ashta-Rathi:

Bheema, Satyajit

Maha-Rathi:

Abhimanyu, Upa-Pandavas, Dhrishtaketu, Satyajit, Vardhyakshemi, Mahaveerya, Rochaman

Ati-Rathi:

Drona, Vahlik, Dhrishtadyumna, Shreniman, Vasudaan, Kuntibhoj Purujit,

Ardha-rathi:

Dhrishtadyumna's kid

According to this list


Arjun = Shakuni

🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

According to this list


Arjun = Shakuni

🤣

And Bheema was a Ashtha Rathi while Duty +99 were only Rathis. Doesn't this mean that Bheema shouldn't have had the combat with them? Sabko Adharma se maara usne

Bematlab bechaare Kauravon par Adharmi hone Ka kalank lagaate hain

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