Unluckiest Character in Mahabharat? - Page 3

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I want to ask this... in what way was Karna unlucky except for the fact that he got to know of his biological origin a little late?

He had loving parents, a comfortable life, a prince for a friend, wives, children, fame, a kingdom.

He himself admits it.

Was he unlucky because he was not considered royal? Excuse me.... 99.9999% of humanity (maybe more) is not royal.

Was he unlucky because he didn't get Brahmashira from Drona? He threatened the life of a prince of the realm. He's lucky he didn't get capital punishment. He went and got the information from Parasu Ram, anyway.

Was Karna unlucky because Bheema called him suthaputhra? After all that Karna did, it was very mild of Bheema. I'd be calling a lot a worse than suthaputhra.

Very well said.. 😆

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Ok I have two answers

1) If we consider without any divinity and only think about them as humans, then my choice is Sahdev. He was the most intelligent man in his family and often could forsee the consequences. But unfortunately for him, being the youngest he was never given the importance he deserved. He didn't even get the place in Itihas which others who were much less talented than him got. I guess Dusshashan has more importance than Sahdev. Even Vikarna has a worth mentioning contribution to the epic but Sahdev has none. Him killing Shakuni was also not something which was given importance and just came as a passing reference

2) If we believe in everything that is mentioned in the scriptures are correct and accept the divinity angles then that person would be Ashwathama. The punishment he has got is for eternity. An eternal pain, an eternal loneliness and an eternal sorrow. I know his crimes were way to much, but still I feel that a punishment for eternity is not justified, for however big a crime a person does as a human, his/her crime is finite because his/her presence and effectiveness on this earth is finite, while an eternal punishment is infinite. An infinite punishment for a finite crime can never be justified. I always condemn other religions' ideology of punishment in hell till eternity, and won't hesitate to to that here either.

If you accept divinity, then he was punished by being denied of moksha and as per Hindu philosophy I think no punishment can be greater. But again, accepting divinity, what he did was easily the worst and could have ended the world or cause mass destruction so didn't he deserve it?

P.S. the one who mentioned Duryodhan had some very valid points. The guy poisons Bheem, Bheem comes back stronger than before. He plans for killing in Lakshagriha, they return with alliance with the second most powerful kingdom of the country. He wins things in the game of dice and within an hour he has to return everything (although here it was the stupidity of him n his friends/brothers). Aage Ka bhool hi jao

@bold - my bits.

@underlined - thank god he was unlucky 🤣

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I want to ask this... in what way was Karna unlucky except for the fact that he got to know of his biological origin a little late?

He had loving parents, a comfortable life, a prince for a friend, wives, children, fame, a kingdom.

He himself admits it.

Was he unlucky because he was not considered royal? Excuse me.... 99.9999% of humanity (maybe more) is not royal.

Was he unlucky because he didn't get Brahmashira from Drona? He threatened the life of a prince of the realm. He's lucky he didn't get capital punishment. He went and got the information from Parasu Ram, anyway.

Was Karna unlucky because Bheema called him suthaputhra? After all that Karna did, it was very mild of Bheema. I'd be calling a lot a worse than suthaputhra.

Karna was luckier than most characters in the epic.

Bhishma's misfortunes began the moment his father birthed greed for Satyavati. 🤪

Then, those misfortunes were aggravated by the succeeding events and also due to the no. of times he erred both in actions and judgments.

Now I don't find it fair to make comparisons between sufferings because it downplays someone's agony. But, here it's noteworthy that Bhishma's suffering was most prolonged. There was always an invisible bed of arrows.

But then nobody got the glorious kind of exit he was bestowed with.

Dhritarashtra/Duryodhana were the dynasty's misfortune. 😆

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

@bold - my bits.

@underlined - thank god he was unlucky 🤣

I agree for the bold part and that is why I consider him the unluckiest. As I said an infinite punishment for a finite crime can never supported or justified.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Bhishma's misfortunes began the moment his father birthed greed for Satyavati. 🤪

Then, those misfortunes were aggravated by the succeeding events and also due to the no. of times he erred both in actions and judgments.

Now I don't find it fair to make comparisons between sufferings because it downplays someone's agony. But, here it's noteworthy that Bhishma's suffering was most prolonged. There was always an invisible bed of arrows.

But then nobody got the glorious kind of exit he was bestowed with.

Dhritarashtra/Duryodhana were the dynasty's misfortune. 😆

I would like to add- he did everything he did for the throne and kingdom of Hastinapur and all of the successors couldn't match up. It's like trying hard for something and yet time and destiny letting you down again and again. Three whole generations of unjust rulers passed on, and then finally when it came to Yudhishthir who was able, Duryodhan came in to stop the same. He could never while he lived see the throne with an able ruler on it. And he had to live for so long watching the destruction of his clan. I feel this is really a misfortune.

Karna I feel cause others were in sticky situations cause of their own choices. But Karna was repeatedly insulted for no major fault of his, specially in childhood. Also, he wasn't even a sutaputra in reality.

Apart from him I feel for Vidura, he was denied the throne cause he was a daasiputra.

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

I would like to add- he did everything he did for the throne and kingdom of Hastinapur and all of the successors couldn't match up. It's like trying hard for something and yet time and destiny letting you down again and again. Three whole generations of unjust rulers passed on, and then finally when it came to Yudhishthir who was able, Duryodhan came in to stop the same. He could never while he lived see the throne with an able ruler on it. And he had to live for so long watching the destruction of his clan. I feel this is really a misfortune.

Sorry after Dyut Sabha I can't consider him to be an able ruler

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Sorry after Dyut Sabha I can't consider him to be an able ruler

I mean compared to Duryodhan 😆

Originally posted by: Mannmohanaa

Karna I feel cause others were in sticky situations cause of their own choices. But Karna was repeatedly insulted for no major fault of his, specially in childhood. Also, he wasn't even a sutaputra in reality.

Apart from him I feel for Vidura, he was denied the throne cause he was a daasiputra.

He was not insulted at all. Also about no major fault, he is equally or infact in Dyut Sabha much more adharmi than Duryodhan or Shakuni.