Ep 30: Sapna tha jo kabhi sach nahi ho sakta

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So on a rather sad note, let us begin tonight's analysis because it is all about pain and broken dreams. It was really very sad to see Rudra and Maya tonight - and even more sad that they have no one but each other to share their pain because somewhere Ananya also has turned her back on Rudra's pain. And Maya's mom, well she cannot gauge the depth of her daughter's agony.

Maya's shower / Mrityunjay's prayer - It was a very beautifully shot scene, aesthetically. Mrityunjay doing Ma Durga's abhishek with doodh to cleanse her and in another scene Maya cleansing herself of the mud. It was like Mrityunjay pouring milk to Durga, but its like mud for Maya who is the Durga here and hence she needs to wash and cleanse herself. Additionally, Maya cleansed herself of any dreams she had begun weaving about Rudra because she cannot let that happen. That incident was a sign from Krishna that there is a chance of light in her life, but not without falling into the pits of immense darkness. Because from immense darkness comes light. But Maya in her pain and agony failed to see that sign positively. She instead assumed it was a sign that she cannot dare stray from her path and plans, because love can only destroy her, not make her happy. I hope going forward she is able to let go of her pain and agony and liberate herself.

MaHi conversation/Mrityunjay vs Rishi - Maya now cannot falter in her games, so she decides to charge with full force. She convinces Rishi to speak to his dad about them and the age difference between both of them. I am astounded that Rishi has so much confidence that his father will simply give him what he wants. But as I mentioned earlier, Rishi has never had to ask anything ever of his dad. His dad has always given him before asking. The day he asks for something Mrityunjay Roy thinks inappropriate, that's the day he will see the real Mrityunjay Roy. And that is what happened. When he spoke to his dad about it, what Mrityunjay said wasn't completely wrong. If you marry someone beneath you, you always have to prove that your partner is better. If you marry someone above you, you will be busy proving yourself better. So that is why marry your equal. But Rishi is too far-gone and immature to understand what his father is trying to explain. And Mrityunjay's desire to control does not help the situation. And Mrityunjay, show some class. You were just praying before Durga to help your son out, and you don't think twice before calling a woman 'bitch'. Money never gets you culture, never. Mrityunjay just proved that today. And in the coming episodes, we have to see more of this. With Rishi, it was just a trailer.

Delusional Roys & Ananya - Koi itna dim kaise ho sakta hai? Kya unn logo ko dikhai nahi deta? Of course, the Roys are never able to fathom that Rudra is agitated or in pain. And Ananya is so annoying and delusional. Yahi aukaad hai kya uski? Meri galti hai, that I thought they could give proper treatment to a girl best-friend, but no. Ananya came off as so desperate and delusional, that I had to close my eyes and hear the scenes. Only Mrityunjay had the good sense to see that something is off about Rudra, but Antara chooses to ignore as always, and Mrityunjay is delighted that he is winning, or not? Because Maya will not let that happen.

MayRa conversation - Both are very conditioned to hide their pain and both don't want love in their lives. But more than Rudra, its Maya who is running away from love. Because when Rudra came and was rehearsing how to speak with Maya, he was the one to say, "Did you feel what I felt yesterday?". Whereas his dialogue should have been what Maya told him that, "Kal raat ko kuch nahi hua". It is like roles switch ho gaye. Jo Rudra ko bolna chahiye, wo Maya bol rahi hai and jo Maya ko bolna chahiye, wo Rudra bol raha hai. It's like Rudra was hoping Maya would accept that she did feel something, but he felt disappointed that she did not. Instead, she treated it as a mistake and that Ananya is the one for him. But that also isn't sufficient for Rudra. He himself said that he does not want love and himself treated it as a mistake last night and that is why he scurried away to his comfort zone. Now when he hears the exact same thing from Maya, he is disappointed. Launde ko pyaar ho gaya hai, and this driving him away will only pull him in further. He is such a git, I tell you. Bada chauda ban ke gaya tha Maya ko 'NO' kehne, 'NO' sun kar waapis aane wala hai. But that will not last for long. After Rishi, inhi ki baari hai.

Waise aur kuch to hai nahi bolne ko, But I would just voice out what I felt about the new promo. I am in two minds about it frankly. And this has no morality or conscience involved. It is my plain and simple logic.

So my one side says that the wrist-slitting is a hoax, just like Antara's drowning was. Firstly, itne se khoon ko bahakar koi marta nahi, just pass out ho sakta hai. Based on tonight's precap, Rudra even comes to save him, but don't know if he will succeed. My wishful thinking and logic state that Maya will just keep him trapped somewhere to use him as leverage against Mrityunjay. As she had once told on a video call, "Ab isse zyaada acche lagoge na to tumhe ab ghar pe band karke rakhna padega, taaki mere sivaay, tumhe koi na dekhe." If she kills him off so easily, then how will she torture Mrityunjay every day. Rishi has to be separated from his family, he needs to separate from the shadow of Mrityunjay Roy, then only his strength will turn into his weakness. She could easily hide him away and sharpen him as a weapon that she can use at the right place and right time against Mrityunjay. Rishi is already very cheesed off with Mrityunjay. After that Maya can mould him easily against Mrityunjay, the way she wants to. That would be much better than just killing him off. Rishi can do a lot more than being the naive kid brother. And where is Ankit? Why did we not get a better understanding of what happened to him? Will he be used as the scapegoat to hide Rishi. I don't know. Deaths have been very symbolic in this show, Maya has always used death-inducing overtures to just reveal something or play some plan.

The other side states that this show was promoted as a dark show, with darker tones. So CVs are giving us that. It was expected that there would be deaths in the show. So first Rishi gets bumped off. This drives a deeper wedge between Rudra and Mrityunjay. And pushes Rudra towards Maya. And then it will be Rudra's turn. He will be the next sacrifice in this battle for vengeance. But Maya will falter here. She will fall in love with him. But she is too broken to love. So she will destroy Mrityunjay and will die in the end. And if they want a Mayra milan, they can kill them both and give them the happy ending as Maya once said, "Kahani ka khatm hona hi happy ending hai, Rudra". Which I so do not want.

That's it from me, tonight. Please share your thoughts.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I was enjoying my rainy weekend and finally caught up the epi little late..


Firstly Rudra and Maya are in the same state of dilemma.. Rudra came back yesterday but she did not open the door.. he left thinking he will be affected again if he falls in love and he decided to marry his best friend..

Maya also had her dream moment of love and suddenly had a rude awakening only to also decide that love will affect her. She decided to kill off rishi and raise her war..

The bg keeps playing for them..I wish they could have a little diff words for them in the song in little future.. which has some love notes too..

These two are hurt but in order to heal one has to make the move.. it will be Rudra who will do that.. he needs to get over his past and show Maya what being loved is.. Rudra Is the next target of Maya for sure.. just like rishi trapped into her love and will kill himself .. with Rudra she will lose it.. no matter how much she keeps her sanity.. today their scene was small and simple but spoke volumes about their feelings.. Rudra knew his decision with Ananya was in a hurry.. he never spoke to Maya.. but even then he wanted to speak to Maya once to clear the doubt.. anyways neither the engagement will happen nor Maya will leave him to Ananya..


For what I feel is that Maya wont be able to avenge on Rudra.. I feel Rudra will know at some point that she killed rishi.. he might make her harm him to finish her revenge and she wont be able to.. for me only Rudra will be able to make her face MJ someday to overcome her scare..


Mj scene was powerful.. after long they gave him more screen space.. his words to rishi was spot on.. except the bitch part ofcourse.. but it's own karma coming back to his sons..


Rishi will die.. I am sure.. many past scenes hinted that.. even Maya said that pyar mein diya gaya bharosa hi jaan leta hai.. I know ppl like rishi a lot..me too.. but his death will evoke a lot of things.. we have many unexplored characters in the show.. including diya and aamir etc.. rishi will surely die and everyone esp MJ will be broken..

Maya first attacked through antara..she did not kill antara because it wasnt necessary then.. she will harm her or kill her when the right time comes.. second was through Rudra and now through rishi.. rishi ko zameen ki gehraayion mein pohocha diya.. the promo broke my heart to see rishi.. rajat has been doing a great job as a new comer.. he has his acting on point..

Again if he doesnt die I will be in for a good surprise..


This show is really thriller at it's best.. makers need to think in diff tangents and write good shows seriously.. not the run of the mill types. M so over such shows now seriously. Beyhadh gives that edge of the seat fun with its speed and music and everything..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Awesome analysis..!!

I would like to share my thoughts about the promo..i felt Maya was asking Rishi to scare MJ by making some kinda video as I can see a tripod fixed there. she might have asked Rishi to cut his hand and emotional blackmail MJ with the video. Rishi might have thought that let's do it as Maya can never be wrong she would save him later..so he himself must have cut his hand then Maya might not take him to hospital or may be she might save him but keep him kidnapped.

With this Maya uska khoon nahi karegi but usko force karegi to do suicide.

This is what I felt. I may be wrong..but isse I feel Rudra won't blame her for murder but MJ because of which Rishi has taken this step of doing suicide.

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oh what a mess rudra and ananya have created. Ananya cannot see anything beyond her own momentary happiness and both of them are settling for less. The fake engagement was so unnecessary but since this is TV, we have to deal with typical tv twists. I don't know if this is a ploy to drag the episodes or to add some irritating drama. at this point, I'm just taking each episode as it comes.


Beyhadh 2 writers do a phenomenal job writing raw human emotions. Writers wrote Mayra's scene beautifully and of course it was elevated by jenny and shivin's performance. I was expected maya or rudra to lash out at each other, it is quite predictible in situations like this. However, they somehow surrendered to eachother when they came face to face. Maya, who woke up with a strengthened resolve could not not hold up her false bravado in front of rudra- her mask slipped. you could tell she was hurting but still managed to utter those. Rudra, who was hoping for a sign from maya was disappointed, but even he understood where she is coming from. they had a very mature conversation and I'm glad that there are no misunderstands between them. Both, especially rudra realizes that something deep has shifted between them...only he is still unaware of the intensity of that said shift.


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like I've said, I'm taking each episode as it comes and trying not to over think. I don't believe rishi will die so soon. He has more to offer to the show and writers won't start killing the pivotal characters so soon.

Edited by pomegranate - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Beautiful analysis Sohini 👏


Honestly the episode broke my heart, for all three: Maya, Rudra and Rishi 💔


Meri batti thodi late jali. Yesterday when I saw the eunuch's taking Maya safely from the mud and later MJ doing jalabhishek of the Goddess, it reminded me of the Durga Puja ritual when they get soil also from nishiddho palli (house of prostitutes and eunuch's) to make Devi's idol. That soil also contributes to the birth of the Goddess. There have been three instances of mud scene, all associated with the duality of birth and death: 1. The past scene where Maya seemed pregnant 2. The first episode where she became darker Maya 3. The recent one, we know Rishi would "die".. we need to see what 'dies' in Maya or what emerges in her.

My heart went out to Rishi yesterday.😭 Especially due to the precap. I know he might not actually die, still.. Rishi is naive, innocent, he went after Maya because he wanted to prove he has grown up, he is drawn by the enigma she is, he trusts Maya blindly, he thinks she genuinely loved him. The thing is, what Maya is making Rishi to go through what she went through in the past. There are two consequences of this: 1. he turns against her for ruining his innocence, becomes another dark Maya 2. he becomes her humdard after going through her pain and becomes her support. There are high chances for the first one, because his brother repeatedly said that one day your love will take away your life and his father called him bewakoof for trusting Maya. And he values his family.

Amidst all this, I am happy about one thing: that the kiss was genuine. It wasn't Maya's manipulation. If it were it would take her character too far into manipulating people. So, she actually found light and hope in Rudra, he actually showed a potential to heal her. But galat waqt and sahi log.. she wouldn't admit that. And Rudra is so alone among his own people. His best friend, his family. I think only his dadi did not say anything in the so-called "festivities". He actually came back for her answer, I wonder what did she message her. In spite of what she says, does he believe it meant nothing? Like his family and Ananya thinks he is happy. Ananya seriously needs a wake-up call from her dream.

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Did I ever told you how much I love reading your analysis libran. You explain everyone's pov and moves so perfectly. It's a mandatory to me to go through your post after each episode.


And reading all the constructive replies this post get is icing on the cake. Please continue making one 👍🏼

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Originally posted by: NamuVyas

I was enjoying my rainy weekend and finally caught up the epi little late..

Baarish me apne dukh ko chupa rahi ho Namrata, hum sab bhi bahut dukhi hai. Lekin koi nahi. Ab bina kisi attachment aur expectation ke dekhna padega.😭

Firstly Rudra and Maya are in the same state of dilemma.. Rudra came back yesterday but she did not open the door.. he left thinking he will be affected again if he falls in love and he decided to marry his best friend..

Maya also had her dream moment of love and suddenly had a rude awakening only to also decide that love will affect her. She decided to kill off rishi and raise her war..

The bg keeps playing for them..I wish they could have a little diff words for them in the song in little future.. which has some love notes too..

These two are hurt but in order to heal one has to make the move.. it will be Rudra who will do that.. he needs to get over his past and show Maya what being loved is.. Rudra Is the next target of Maya for sure.. just like rishi trapped into her love and will kill himself .. with Rudra she will lose it.. no matter how much she keeps her sanity.. today their scene was small and simple but spoke volumes about their feelings.. Rudra knew his decision with Ananya was in a hurry.. he never spoke to Maya.. but even then he wanted to speak to Maya once to clear the doubt.. anyways neither the engagement will happen nor Maya will leave him to Ananya..

For MayRa to happen, Rudra first has to move on, because comparing Maya and Rudra, Rudra is in a more favorable situation as he only got heartbroken back then, his trust on his father wavered. That's it. He still has someone to call family, he still has friends, he still has an anchor which holds him together. Comparatively, Maya fell in love, and the devastation it brought about shattered her being - half her family died including her unborn child, she was physically and mentally tortured and traumatized. Her core is still intact, which is soft and kind, but her entire being is scarred. Her anchor is her mother who does not know the entire truth. So Rudra has to evaluate what he wants, get over his pain and leave it behind, and pursue Maya, who will try her best to push him away, but Rudra is a stubborn man - if he has fallen for her, she too has to accept her feelings and move on with him. He will not leave a choice.

For what I feel is that Maya wont be able to avenge on Rudra.. I feel Rudra will know at some point that she killed rishi.. he might make her harm him to finish her revenge and she wont be able to.. for me only Rudra will be able to make her face MJ someday to overcome her scare..


Mj scene was powerful.. after long they gave him more screen space.. his words to rishi was spot on.. except the bitch part ofcourse.. but it's own karma coming back to his sons..


Rishi will die.. I am sure.. many past scenes hinted that.. even Maya said that pyar mein diya gaya bharosa hi jaan leta hai.. I know ppl like rishi a lot..me too.. but his death will evoke a lot of things.. we have many unexplored characters in the show.. including diya and aamir etc.. rishi will surely die and everyone esp MJ will be broken..

Maya first attacked through antara..she did not kill antara because it wasnt necessary then.. she will harm her or kill her when the right time comes.. second was through Rudra and now through rishi.. rishi ko zameen ki gehraayion mein pohocha diya.. the promo broke my heart to see rishi.. rajat has been doing a great job as a new comer.. he has his acting on point..

Again if he doesnt die I will be in for a good surprise..

With Rishi, I have high doubts about him dying now. He may be kept off the radar for now. Because there is a lot of things that can be done utilizing him. Rudra is Maya's shield to safeguard her from Mrityunjay, but Rishi could be the weapon. For a weapon to cause maximum damage, it needs to be honed and sharpened, to release him at the right time. It is not easy to digest that something so simple can happen in a thriller show, where they are so successfully keeping everything under wraps. There is something more to wrist slitting and dying. That is what my instinct says. They could show him dying and paving way for MayRa, but there will definitely be a twist in the tale, which we have no clue about. Which Maya will reveal later because Maya had told Rajiv that Rishi ko uski family se dur karna hai, maarne ki baat hui nahi. Maya in S2, is all about killing people but not literally, more like symbolic deaths and liberations. Antara's drowning was the drowning of her and Rudra's relationship, Rishi's supposed demise is the demise of Rudra and Mrityunjay's relationship.

This show is really thriller at it's best.. makers need to think in diff tangents and write good shows seriously.. not the run of the mill types. M so over such shows now seriously. Beyhadh gives that edge of the seat fun with its speed and music and everything..

I agree with you, but S2 has always delivered with out of the box twists, all our speculations have gone in the dump yard because CVs have done things we weren't expecting at all. We are so conditioned to think the ITV way, that Beyhadh CVs do happily surprise us many times. Let's see what they plan to do with Rishi - I am sure it is not simple kiss goodbye to life, there is more to this death.

Edited by libran90 - 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sias2

Awesome analysis..!!

I would like to share my thoughts about the promo..i felt Maya was asking Rishi to scare MJ by making some kinda video as I can see a tripod fixed there. she might have asked Rishi to cut his hand and emotional blackmail MJ with the video. Rishi might have thought that let's do it as Maya can never be wrong she would save him later..so he himself must have cut his hand then Maya might not take him to hospital or may be she might save him but keep him kidnapped.

With this Maya uska khoon nahi karegi but usko force karegi to do suicide.

This is what I felt. I may be wrong..but isse I feel Rudra won't blame her for murder but MJ because of which Rishi has taken this step of doing suicide.

The planning from Rishi's side was obviously blackmailing his father. From Maya's side are many things - she cannot let Rudra marry Ananya for her revenge to happen, she cannot let Rudra be allowed to mend relations with Mrityunjay. He himself did slit his wrist, Maya did not touch him once, but egged him to take this step. But this does not look or sound as simple as shown in the promo. There is definitely more to this. Beyhadh is not so simple. S1 Maya faked her own death, it can easily be done here too.

Second, Maya says in the promo that "jaan ke badle, maine jaan cheen li". Jaan cheen lene ke bahut meanings hote hai. As per Maya's character establishment, she has always played psychological games. Because more than physical pain, its mental trauma that gives you more pain. Maya wants to give Mrityunjay that pain - the thought of losing your child because of your own ego, the devastation, the bone-crushing, agonizing pain that a mother goes through when birthing a child, is what she wants Mrityunjay to feel. Rishi is Mrityunjay's jaan - in his twisted mindset - and cheen lena matlab dur kar dena bhi hota hai - snatching him away and keeping him somewhere jahaan Mrityunjay usko dekhne ke liye tarse, that deathly feeling is what she wants to give.

Death is more metaphorical than real in S2. Even if there is Rishi's death, there is still more to it, otherwise, it will be very cliche.

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Originally posted by: pomegranate

oh what a mess rudra and ananya have created. Ananya cannot see anything beyond her own momentary happiness and both of them are settling for less. The fake engagement was so unnecessary but since this is TV, we have to deal with typical tv twists. I don't know if this is a ploy to drag the episodes or to add some irritating drama. at this point, I'm just taking each episode as it comes.

This woman is being such a pain, I cannot even fathom. She comes across as so desperate, it is really cringeworthy. Mujhe bhi yahi karna padega. Take it as it comes. But sometimes, it is very pukish.

Beyhadh 2 writers do a phenomenal job writing raw human emotions. Writers wrote Mayra's scene beautifully and of course it was elevated by jenny and shivin's performance. I was expected maya or rudra to lash out at each other, it is quite predictible in situations like this. However, they somehow surrendered to eachother when they came face to face. Maya, who woke up with a strengthened resolve could not not hold up her false bravado in front of rudra- her mask slipped. you could tell she was hurting but still managed to utter those. Rudra, who was hoping for a sign from maya was disappointed, but even he understood where she is coming from. they had a very mature conversation and I'm glad that there are no misunderstands between them. Both, especially rudra realizes that something deep has shifted between them...only he is still unaware of the intensity of that said shift.

Both of them are very hurt and scared. But Maya is not taking any initiative in this relationship, it will have to be Rudra. Rudra has to step forward and pull Maya in. Maya will not give in to him so easily.

Promo:


like I've said, I'm taking each episode as it comes and trying not to over think. I don't believe rishi will die so soon. He has more to offer to the show and writers won't start killing the pivotal characters so soon.

Same pinch. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Originally posted by: tournesol

Beautiful analysis Sohini 👏

Thanks, Tiara😊

Honestly the episode broke my heart, for all three: Maya, Rudra and Rishi 💔


Meri batti thodi late jali. Yesterday when I saw the eunuch's taking Maya safely from the mud and later MJ doing jalabhishek of the Goddess, it reminded me of the Durga Puja ritual when they get soil also from nishiddho palli (house of prostitutes and eunuch's) to make Devi's idol. That soil also contributes to the birth of the Goddess. There have been three instances of mud scene, all associated with the duality of birth and death: 1. The past scene where Maya seemed pregnant 2. The first episode where she became darker Maya 3. The recent one, we know Rishi would "die".. we need to see what 'dies' in Maya or what emerges in her.

This speaks the same for Rishi. We need to see what dies in Rishi, and what emerges in him - the Mrityunjay Roy in him wakes up, or the Rishi Roy in him wakes up. Maya to already mar chuki hai. She is just a zinda laash breathing. Glad to know there is a Bengali here.

My heart went out to Rishi yesterday.😭 Especially due to the precap. I know he might not actually die, still.. Rishi is naive, innocent, he went after Maya because he wanted to prove he has grown up, he is drawn by the enigma she is, he trusts Maya blindly, he thinks she genuinely loved him. The thing is, what Maya is making Rishi to go through what she went through in the past. There are two consequences of this: 1. he turns against her for ruining his innocence, becomes another dark Maya 2. he becomes her humdard after going through her pain and becomes her support. There are high chances for the first one, because his brother repeatedly said that one day your love will take away your life and his father called him bewakoof for trusting Maya. And he values his family.

Maya's best bet to win this battle against Mrityunjay is his complete isolation. And slowly she needs to remove his core circle that protects him and his image. That should not involve killing them off literally, but psychologically freaking people out.

Amidst all this, I am happy about one thing: that the kiss was genuine. It wasn't Maya's manipulation. If it were it would take her character too far into manipulating people. So, she actually found light and hope in Rudra, he actually showed a potential to heal her. But galat waqt and sahi log.. she wouldn't admit that. And Rudra is so alone among his own people. His best friend, his family. I think only his dadi did not say anything in the so-called "festivities". He actually came back for her answer, I wonder what did she message her. In spite of what she says, does he believe it meant nothing? Like his family and Ananya thinks he is happy. Ananya seriously needs a wake-up call from her dream.

Ananya ka wake up call ka pata nahi. But Rudra needs to wake up and take action - because Maya won't and that will irk him to the core.

Edited by libran90 - 6 years ago

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