Bolly actor's sm views - Page 39

Originally posted by: guenhwyvar

https://www.thehindu.com/elections/lok-sabha-2019/infiltrators-are-termites-will-throw-them-out-amit-shah/article26805646.ece

He refers to illegal immigrants as termites. He makes no indication that only Muslims were termites. You can argue his latter statement that Hindus/Buddhists who were refugees will be given citizenship, but that argument wouldn't suffice because not all illegal immigrants that are Hindus/Buddhists are refugees. The other argument that I see appearing is it gives Hindus/Buddhists a clean chit, but a simple statement that you're a refugee isn't going mean you'll get citizenship with a snap of a finger.

Take Hitler's statement in comparison:

[quote]On September 16, 1919, Hitler issues his first written comment on the so-called Jewish Question.

In the statement, he defined the Jews as a race and not a religious community, characterized the effect of a Jewish presence as a “race-tuberculosis of the peoples,” and identified the initial goal of a German government to be discriminatory legislation against Jews. The “ultimate goal must definitely be the removal of the Jews altogether.” Hitler's years in Vienna (1908–1913) and his military service were important stages for his development of a comprehensive racist ideology.[/quote]

Stage 4 talks about dehumanizing a race. Indian Muslims are not seen as illegal immigrants. Indian Muslims are not in danger of being thrown out of the country. You can thank the fear mongering politics of the LW for this crap.

This is what I found - opinion pieces that conclude the existence of fascism based on select elements/characteristics being met. I couldn't find any sources (in my limited research) from political science/historians that point to India going towards fascism. I see left-leaning websites claim that India is leaning that way because X,Y,Z characteristics have been met. Fascism is complex. It's not as simple as inserting stuff into slots to pop out a result. I think India leans more towards Authoritarianism than Facism, but even then, you're not seeing the major flaws of these two types of governments. You have limited political freedom in these two governments, but we're not seeing that in the current government. On that note, was the government under Congress secular or was it just minority appeasements... I'd argue the latter. Secularism in India has shifted to mean one thing - Muslim appeasement. Why? Vote banks.

Finally, I can also see why Hindutva is being seen as fascism. The comments by fringe nut job MPs don't help either, but I think BJP is working towards a better India. They are doing it in a really f&*king bumpy (seriously, they have to get their shit together) way, though.

Let's treat everyone equally, not give preferential treatment to anyone (except those that need it, and not on the basis of religion), and move forward with a modernized country.

@Bold: "He refers to illegal immigrants as termites. He makes no indication that only Muslims were termites."

First of all, no human being can be referred to in such a demeaning, dehumanizing way, let alone millions of people grouped together being called that. Secondly -- now read carefully -- if he was also calling the other non-Muslims termites, how come he is offering citizenship to the same termites? Because he was never referring to them in the first place! It is crystal clear that he was only referring to Muslims as termites, and rest of the illegal infiltrators seem okay to him. Can't you not see through his bigoted BS? Look at the kind of statements a Home Minister of the country is making, creating widespread unrest and fear among the Muslim community:

https://twitter.com/BJP4India/status/1116246724119371776

Oh secularism was a vote bank to appease minorities. And Hindutva isn't being used as a vote bank to bag votes? Which prism are you viewing it through that doesn't show you that? (Also why are you bringing Congress into this? If you are under the impression that I am a Congress supporter, then I am not. Far from it. Criticizing Salman doesn't make me an SRK fan).

Forget left leaning Indian websites, read what international media is writing about them. If you are neutral, you would see why there are many signs foreshadowing the rise of fascism.

I agree with you about treating everyone equally, but the govt doesn't quite believe in that, and their actions prove that. And that's exactly what we are protesting.

Same person created another topic in Bollywood forum to discuss abt pissfulls protection supported by bollytard 😆 Seems pretty Vella/velli

Originally posted by: ZanduBaaM

Jamia student name in FIR

https://twitter.com/rajshekharTOI/status/1206964499145617408?s=19

Tell this to blind liberals🤪

Originally posted by: ponymo

Again, the proof is out there. Don't expect me to spoon feed you things that are easily available at the flick of a button.

Which claim you didn't find an article on? I will give you the benefit of doubt here and try to help you find the article you are looking for.

Ignorant = lacking knowledge, which is the case here. Not an attack on the person. I don't expect you to know the difference anyway. So, leave it.

@bold personal attack. Well what else can you say when you can't prove what you say about those dear students.

I absolutely looove how you oh so conveniently did not reply to my post where I listed off evidence against these criminal students.

I'm not asking to be spoon fed. I'm asking you to list off evidence to support your claim which every claimant always does. I don't know it was called spoon feeding 🤣it's proving yourself right.

Achcha a lawyer too has to give arguments and proofs in his clients favor, does that mean that he can say to the judge,

"I've made my argument. Can't spoon feed you. Find the evidence yourself "🤣🤣

I said the students are criminals, I procured evidence for the same. Now you have no substance to voice out so go on these personal attack and humanitarian commentary.

Won't be surprised if you make fun of my English next. That's the last nail in the coffin. 😆🤣

Originally posted by: guenhwyvar

https://www.thehindu.com/elections/lok-sabha-2019/infiltrators-are-termites-will-throw-them-out-amit-shah/article26805646.ece

He refers to illegal immigrants as termites. He makes no indication that only Muslims were termites. You can argue his latter statement that Hindus/Buddhists who were refugees will be given citizenship, but that argument wouldn't suffice because not all illegal immigrants that are Hindus/Buddhists are refugees. The other argument that I see appearing is it gives Hindus/Buddhists a clean chit, but a simple statement that you're a refugee isn't going mean you'll get citizenship with a snap of a finger.

Take Hitler's attachment in comparison:

[quote]On September 16, 1919, Hitler issues his first written comment on the so-called Jewish Question.

In the statement, he defined the Jews as a race and not a religious community, characterized the effect of a Jewish presence as a “race-tuberculosis of the peoples,” and identified the initial goal of a German government to be discriminatory legislation against Jews. The “ultimate goal must definitely be the removal of the Jews altogether.” Hitler's years in Vienna (1908–1913) and his military service were important stages for his development of a comprehensive racist ideology.[/quote]

Stage 4 talks about dehumanizing a race. Indian Muslims are not seen as illegal immigrants. Indian Muslims are not in danger of being thrown out of the country. You can thank the fear mongering politics of the LW for this crap.

This is what I found - opinion pieces that conclude the existence of fascism based on select elements/characteristics being met. I couldn't find any sources (in my limited research) from political science/historians that point to India going towards fascism. I see left-leaning websites claim that India is leaning that way because X,Y,Z characteristics have been met. Fascism is complex. It's not as simple as inserting stuff into slots to pop out a result. I think India leans more towards Authoritarianism than Facism, but even then, you're not seeing the major flaws of these two types of governments. You have limited political freedom in these two governments, but we're not seeing that in the current government. On that note, was the government under Congress secular or was it just minority appeasements... I'd argue the latter. Secularism in India has shifted to mean one thing - Muslim appeasement. Why? Vote banks.

Finally, I can also see why Hindutva is being seen as fascism. The comments by fringe nut job MPs don't help either, but I think BJP is working towards a better India. They are doing it in a really f&*king bumpy (seriously, they have to get their shit together) way, though.

Let's treat everyone equally, not give preferential treatment to anyone (except those that need it, and not on the basis of religion), and move forward with a modernized country.

Rehne do Yaar. Intellectuals hate evidences

They only care about abstract arguments which have no relevance in the real world.

Originally posted by: ponymo

@Bold: "He refers to illegal immigrants as termites. He makes no indication that only Muslims were termites."

First of all, no human being can be referred to in such a demeaning, dehumanizing way, let alone millions of people grouped together being called that. Secondly -- now read carefully -- if he was also calling the other non-Muslims termites, how come he is offering citizenship to the same termites? Because he was never referring to them in the first place! It is crystal clear that he was only referring to Muslims as termites, and rest of the illegal infiltrators seem okay to him. Can't you not see through his bigoted BS? Look at the kind of statements a Home Minister of the country is making, creating widespread unrest and fear among the Muslim community:

https://twitter.com/BJP4India/status/1116246724119371776

Oh secularism was a vote bank to appease minorities. And Hindutva isn't being used as a vote bank to bag votes? Which prism are you viewing it through that doesn't show you that? (Also why are you bringing Congress into this? If you are under the impression that I am a Congress supporter, then I am not. Far from it. Criticizing Salman doesn't make me an SRK fan).

Forget left leaning Indian websites, read what international media is writing about them. If you are neutral, you would see why there are many signs foreshadowing the rise of fascism.

I agree with you about treating everyone equally, but the govt doesn't quite believe in that, and their actions prove that. And that's exactly what we are protesting.

Let me word it out for you in simple terms

He referred to illegal immigrants as termites because they take up all the benefits of the governments schemes and initiatives which are meant by the government for the citizens of India. It isn't something unique, every country wants the citizens to have the first right to their scheme.

But his commentary on illegal immigrants was irresponsible.

CAB is strictly for minorities from our neighboring countries.

Yes read that again.

And our two immediates neighbors, also Afghanistan are Muslim majority. This bill gives shelter to persecuted minorities. Is it our fault that Muslims made their own countries and are in majority there?!?!

It's a law not against Indians I repeat. Our constitution, our laws apply only to Indians. They don't apply to non citizens. So this law is not unconstitutional or nor does it defy our secularism.

Our constitution justifies positive discrimination so that persecuted members of any recognized groups can be as progressive as the non persecuted ones. So it's completely legal since these minorities couldn't live in peace in the neighboring countries.

India isn't denying citizenship to Muslims. They can still apply for citizenship like any other person who does. But these minority refugees are given shelter here, so they will be given the citizenship on that criteria. Just like jews in Israel and Muslims in Kuwait. And just like how European countries took in Muslim refugees.

The international media is debunked quite a few times on their ultra woke, ultra left articles. Remember BBC during article 370?

So please read credible news and then comment.

You protesting won't earn anyone ANYTHING.

People can't vandalize the public property and

expect laws to change for their own convenience. This protest resulted in loss of 250 CR from Indian railways.

Don't what kind of protest you people do which turns violent and does no good for anyone.

Originally posted by: kantalaga_

Same person created another topic in Bollywood forum to discuss abt pissfulls protection supported by bollytard 😆 Seems pretty Vella/velli

Arre this person believes that the misleading posts this person makes is all okay and mods are idiots who shift this to debate mansion 😆🤣

I know and understand what this person is trying to do here. This person has done this countless times. Talking bs everywhere until someone procures evidence and this person backs off with vague bs 🤣

Originally posted by: NathuPyare

Very true. 👏

Infact agar chance mile to aadha Pakistan Bharat me aa jaye..... Aur baad me Bharat ki bhi halat Pakistan jaisi kar de...

Arre Inn sab ko tab tak chain nahi milega jab tak India becomes Muslim majority.

Ye khwaab hum pura nahi hone denge

Fact remains students acting like criminal asking for hindus ki azzadi. They need to get beaten as well as jailed👍🏼

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

So who are these criminal elements?

https://twitter.com/SyedMoinBhai/status/1206903816060391424?s=20