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Posted: 5 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Indulekha00

Reading thru I now wonder if that tale about Junaid and him seeking out the Jinn is even true. What was the need for it when he was already married to some kind of evil entity. That guy seems to be conned by his wife, majestically 😆

What lovely parents Aman and his siblings have!!!

To answer the doubts and confusions presented in the thread:

Well SN shows bring in unexpected and senseless twists and viewers are supposed to watch it and accept it, no questions asked. They will just answer all your doubts with some dialogue which would leave you more confused.

It is best that we click the erase button and wipe away what we assumed from previous episodes and become like Rosh who has lost her memories 😆

Well Pari the narrator has already hinted how it is going to be..." No one knows how Rosh became alive" .. Guess that should bail out the script writer who might not know what explanation to give 😈


Haan,seems like Parveen had some ambitious plans aur Junaid manipulate ho gaya smiley36 Jaise bete ko manipulate kiya waise hi paati ko.

Indu, I guess you and I were from the club who always expected some logic atleast from the very start and we enjoyed the fact and it atleast made some sense amongst other supernatural/fantasy shows smiley36


This show looked different from the rest. But you're right. Maybe we should all just watch and forget smiley36 and try to find no thread of logic because today was simply.. mind boggling. This and that thread wala episode just told me to ACCEPT. Kuch bhi dikha sakte hain on any day. With no correlation from the past smiley36


Roshni's memory loss is what the scriptwriters are indicating to us. KE TUM LOG BHI BHUL JAO.


Ek gaan yaad aaraha hain.

From the CVS to us and Roshni 😆:

Bhool ja Jo hua use bhool ja,

Hai Kasam Tujhe muskara.

Khud Ko na de Yun saza, in yaadon ko tu

Bhoool jaa.

Edited by AllThatCritique - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#42

I think we shud chill guys... we shud stop speculating now.. since it's a magical show we cant expect what is in store for us in the upcoming episodes.. Also we shud stop finding logic now in magical shows ... Just sit back and Enjoy .....All our permutations and combinations wud fall flat... but I somehow feel 'kuch bhi ho, we are in for some entertainment for sure'..... we have soo many unanswered questions in our mind... But waitg for Kabir and Aman's face off and Roshan romance too.. Kabir looks too cold hearted , no love for family( its obvious he was separated from birth)

Edited by an_shaini - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

If she just..gets up on her own. 🤔 I will never forgive this show... THIS IS A HUGE PART OF THE FAIRYTALE how the princess wakes up. Kuch toh important hoga. My theory : Her life for her memories..some deal. Or Kabir bringing her back without her memories so that it hurts Aman since she is now his weakness. Something major should happen. AND NOT SOME THREAD SHIT!


Out of all the mess I think there is one answer to Ayaanh coming back to life. It's Kabir ka Kiya dhara. Remember how Jinn can bring back dead warriors to life..same way Ayaanah can be brought backt o life too ..that's sorted for me for now...

But honestly I don't trust the writers any more...they can dash my understanding in next episode only and make me say WTH!

But until that happens this is what I believe.


It's all a meh right now...no connection..lots of things revealed at once without giving any background...


Parveen story doesn't make sense to me..how saving Aman will help her...?


And how come the Jinn to whom Kabir was supposed to be offered to is the same Jinn Kabir turns into?

Shouldn't they be 2 different Jinn's?

And if Parveen is a Jinn from the beginning itself then why Junaid has to make deal with another Jinn..she can always provide for family..right?


Who turned Kabir into Jinn?


My ultimate question is what is the role of Aman in helping Parveen become queen of darkness?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Why do we expect that we should get all the answers from today's episode itself? Phir aage kya karenge? Pooriyan talenge?😆

Sabke answers milenge and the remaining episodes will be the quest in search of these.

I'm sorry but we should just sit back and watch and enjoy. And be glad that they didn't resort to some sadistic drama and are giving us fresh twists. Hold on 😛

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: an_shaini

I think we shud chill guys... we shud stop speculating now.. since it's a magical show we cant expect what is in store for us in the upcoming episodes.. Also we shud stop finding logic now in magical shows ... Just sit back and Enjoy .....All our permutations and combinations wud fall flat... but I somehow feel 'kuch bhi ho, we are in for some entertainment for sure'..... we have soo many unanswered questions in our mind... But waitg for Kabir and Aman's face off and Roshan romance too.. Kabir looks too cold hearted , no love for family( its obvious he was separated from birth)

I second everything you said. After enough brainstorming with zero output now I have decided to leave myself to the mercy of show writers! I will try not to judge them or question them...it's a magic show on ITV...sort of karela neem chadha...

It can get as illogical as possible..there are no upper or lower bounds...and from today's episode there are no rules anymore..the writers have taken gloves off!

I will just enjoy the show because the story is very much like those typical fantasy folk tales...

I am glad Kabir is not black character..he is going to be in grey zone and might turn golden by sacrificing his life for his younger brother! Just a wishful thinking...

Edited by Mi-Amor - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Mannmohanaa

Why do we expect that we should get all the answers from today's episode itself? Phir aage kya karenge? Pooriyan talenge?😆

Sabke answers milenge and the remaining episodes will be the quest in search of these.

I'm sorry but we should just sit back and watch and enjoy. And be glad that they didn't resort to some sadistic drama and are giving us fresh twists. Hold on 😛


Well said.

Keep logic and expectations aside, see it. Laugh it out and forget.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Mi-Amor


Out of all the mess I think there is one answer to Ayaanh coming back to life. It's Kabir ka Kiya dhara. Remember how Jinn can bring back dead warriors to life..same way Ayaanah can be brought backt o life too ..that's sorted for me for now...

But honestly I don't trust the writers any more...they can dash my understanding in next episode only and make me say WTH!

But until that happens this is what I believe.


It's all a meh right now...no connection..lots of things revealed at once without giving any background...


Parveen story doesn't make sense to me..how saving Aman will help her...?


And how come the Jinn to whom Kabir was supposed to be offered to is the same Jinn Kabir turns into?

Shouldn't they be 2 different Jinn's?

And if Parveen is a Jinn from the beginning itself then why Junaid has to make deal with another Jinn..she can always provide for family..right?


Who turned Kabir into Jinn?


My ultimate question is what is the role of Aman in helping Parveen become queen of darkness?


Kabir is the Sifriti Jinn. While the main Jinn,the one Junaid offered Aman to,was Kaala Jinn. So two Jinns. My theory as stated in the post is Kabir is the Sifriti Jinn wanting to be Kaala Jinn but he can't be the absolute ruler because Kaala Jinn wants Aman so all this time he tried to remove Aman so that Kaala Jinn chooses him,the actual first born.


How and when Kabir becomes SF is a whole mystery 😆


Yeah I also think Kabir will bring her back since his Aman ka murder clearly fails cause Baazigar is back. So he would try to use his weakness,Roshni, to hurt him.


I believe Parveen became a Jinn after the deal. Not before. She says separating both of them will help her be darkness ki Mallika.


Maybe Aman ko jaise Jinn ka saya mila with powers,similarly she received some powers.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#48

Here’s my theory: Parveen was either jinn by birth or got her powers by making a deal with the Kaala Jinn.


Her powers then got passed on to both her sons. Kabir got full powers because he’s the oldest, and Aman got half the powers, being younger. She sent Kabir away because he’s more powerful out of the two and could do more harm to her, and because there’s also some prophecy about both of her sons destroying her together. She lied and said Aman is half Jinn because of Junaid’s deal.

Most of this is based off of what’s been told in the show. I’m going to take a big leap and guess that Junaid was actually innocent. He discovered what Parveen was up to and the prophecy of Ayanna. Parveen probably tried to hunt Ayanna down when she was a baby, because she would have been easy to kill then. Junaid saved her by sending her away. He also married Tabeezi to hopefully push Parveen away and also protect his family, given Tabeezi’s magic (of course, lying to her about not being already married is inexcusable regardless).

I agree with everyone who has said that the final showdown will be Kabir, Roshni, and Aman vs Parveen. Kabir isn’t inherently evil - he’s hurt because he was abandoned.

Another big mystery right now is: is Chotu Kabir’s son?? That would explain why he calls Aman Chachu - the relationship lines up, but how would Kabir have a son, and why would he be living with the family if they didn’t even know where Kabir was??

I’m glad they made Parveen fully evil and aren’t pretending with this clinical depression diagnosis anymore. Now I don’t feel any guilt for hating her 😆


I also think Parveen is just pretending to care about Aman. Her whole thing about giving Kabir a human body so he could protect Aman sounded like a complete lie. She wants these two brothers apart, not together.

I’m actually excited to see where the show goes next! Yes, the story got convoluted very quickly, but I have a feeling the writers will reveal everything.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Madhura..


Well said.

Keep logic and expectations aside, see it. Laugh it out and forget.


Right Madz...

Thanks for being one of the same member and checking up on us as we all going crazy here 😝

Edited by Mi-Amor - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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I thought of this, again it’s my logic and sadly I try to look for logic but this show transcends any thought process I ever had:

Let’s assume this is all a plot by evil Parveen. She was a baddie ( jinn witch dayan) and married Junaid. Junaid is not listening to her rants of let’s get rich quickly ( Junaid is dadis son so he can’t be that bad - assuming at this point) so Parveen uses her power and gets Junaid to agree. Remember he knew how to go to the big jinn. He goes makes the deal and tells her - she realises that if he gives up one kid to jinn then she won’t be the most powerful.

She now gives up one kid - both kids are half supernatural entities. We now have two jinns - one the main one whom we have not seen and kabir the SJ. Kabir knows mum won’t help because she not only trapped him but wants him to protect his brother ( this I am not buying I think Parveen just said to shut him up because if he saves aman then how will Parveen become queen of darkness?)

Aman is not human ( Tabeezi thought that but her story is halfway anyway as aman read the full story to roshni today), kabir is not human. I think the girl kids are not human either and we will see their karname too eventually.

Now we know Parveen wanted Adaah to marry aman - that was a sure way to kill him so why would she think kabir will protect aman? They don’t even know each other and plus she gave up on him. Unless she met him secretly in that trapped bottle?

I think the real battle is between main jinn ( kaala or whatever his name is) and Ayana aka roshni and aman will support her. Maybe they will turn kabir a good one depending but let’s see. At this point:

Aman is miserable without roshni and when she is alive he will woo her so won’t have time to worry about bother or mum.

Kabir won’t worry about roshni because legally roshni is married to aman and that’s super vulgar for a big brother to lust after his little brothers wife ewwww

Roshni we know will do anything to save aman so who knows end game will be Roshni and Aman fighting Parveen, Kabir, and main jinn like they did 8000 years ago?

Although I must admit the CVs are on their own planet and that’s why I for this series only don’t search for logic - your post made me think and I know tomorrow they may bunk all these theories and come up with something totally random😂😂😂😂😂


Edited by vibha28 - 5 years ago

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