Justification of chest bumping - Page 3

But Dey defended himself so well

Originally posted by: SoPunk

You are justifying Sana's action or diluting her mistake by calling Dey defensive action Wrong.

NOT AT ALL. Maybe YOU didn't read my post properly. If you read my initial post, I CLEARLY stated that I didn't understand why there was a JUSTIFICATION for Sana when she was CLEARLY WRONG.

That means you didn't read my post before replying. Exactly that's what I'm saying. When she's coming for a bump or putting mud in his mouth, what was he supposed to do? Eat mud and allow her to pound his chest with her boobs? Is that what you are saying ?

She put mud near his face and was throwing it up and down. Again Absolutely WRONG. She didn't put it inside his mouth zabardasti now did she? Nope. I watched it again. She was doing it to instigate him which she did successfully. He got instigated and PHYSICALLY pushed her FIRST. They are bounded by a contract against PHYSICAL violence. So pushing her was not the RIGHT reaction. This is Bigg Boss. People will provoke you. Physically hitting/pushing someone is usually NOT the answer. She didn't touch him UNTIL he did. Her Touch was dirty and wrong which I have said countless times but his reaction was not right.

I think pushing her back was the right action to avoid the above. Still she was coming so he started shaming her so that she gives up, but he didn't realize she was Shame resistant.

You THINK! If he just let it go (because she was just provoking him and following him not actually PHYSCIALLY opening his mouth and feeding him mud or touching him), he would be COMPLETELY right. Salman pointed at Shukla today how he should just stay quiet and try to avoid instigating situations because at the end of the day, he comes out looking violent. Same goes for everyone else.

There you go. Reaction is never wrong unless it is disproportionately massive. In this case, he could have gone on to use stronger force to stop her but he didn't. He even pleaded to BB to intervene & used minimum force to allow time for BB to intervene.

@BOLD Are you sure about that? Reactions can cost you more than an action. Again, this is a SHOW. A PHYSICAL reaction is NEVER right unless someone is threatening your safety in some way which it wasn't in this case. Physical "Self defense" is something you should use when you feel physically threatened.

Please tell me what was he supposed to do in your opinion to stop mud being shoved into his mouth or to avoid being bumped by her chest?

I went and re-watched that part of the episode. YES she was instigating him but she was going behind him, throwing the mud in the air, bringing it close to his face, and INSTIGATING. Not at a single point was there any "shoving" inside mouth. I said it time and again. Was she wrong? 100% she was. But he was the first to push and say those words. Again WRONG. Paras was literally yelling from the other side for him to shut up and calm down. I'm not diluting Sana's mistake. I'm just saying they are BOTH wrong. But you are definitely JUSTIFYING his reaction.

This was the sequence of events:

He took a little mud from her from what it looked like to help Mahira.

She was following him with the mud - WRONG

He gave her characterless gaalis - WRONG

She continued following - WRONG

He pushed her - WRONG & Breach of contract.

She went and started to chest bump him - WRONG and physical violence breach.

I said it in my first post. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Anyways, you are free to think the way you do. I personally don't find physically touching anyone tasteful be it man or women. Be it pushing them or chest bumping. Okay I'll leave it there. Wish not to continue this discussion. Free to disagree.☺

Yeah Salman was justifying violence. A push for a push was enough but she did it several times. And all the bullying she was doing with mud was 'entertainment' ..well it must be because Arti Shukla were laughing throughout.

Originally posted by: Cookies..

Anyways, you are free to think the way you do. I personally don't find physically touching anyone tasteful be it man or women. Be it pushing them or chest bumping. Okay I'll leave it there. Wish not to continue this discussion. Free to disagree.☺

Looks like you don't have an answer of the simple question at the root of all this.

If you don't know what would be the right action for him, how would you know he was wrong?

What dey did was absolutely Right & Logical in that situation for him to do.

Another time, another person & another situation could have another action, but certain proportionate level of coercive action would always be necessary to deal with such persistent chest bumper.lol

Originally posted by: SoPunk

Looks like you don't have an answer of the simple question at the root of all this.

If you don't know what would be the right action for him, how would you know he was wrong?

What dey did was absolutely Right & Logical in that situation for him to do.

Another time, another person & another situation could have another action, but certain proportionate level of coercive action would always be necessary to deal with such persistent chest bumper.lol

I answered your question already. It's better to back off and just try to avoid the instigator. They might continue but if they don't get a reaction, everything is ON THEM. They'll either eventually back off or look like the one who is fully wrong. Now people will have an opportunity to put blame on him because he pushed. That wasn't a "logical" reaction. He didn't seem to think It through. It was an impulsive one in reaction to the instigation.

Originally posted by: Cookies..

I answered your question already.

No you didn't

It's better to back off and just try to avoid the instigator.

What's back off? Go outside BB house? She was following him all over & a task had to be done. At some stage he hid behind another girl too. How much more do you expect him to back off? Many wouldn't back so much off from a gun that he did from boobs😆

They might continue but if they don't get a reaction, everything is ON THEM.

If he gives no reaction she shoves mud through his mouth & bumps him with boobs, how many bumps & gram of mud is ok for you as a limit of no reaction? 😆

They'll either eventually back off or look like the one who is fully wrong. Now people will have an opportunity to put blame on him because he pushed. That wasn't a "logical" reaction. He didn't seem to think It through. It was an impulsive one in reaction to the instigation.

You are giving some kitabi (Bookish) points which is utterly useless in the situation at hand.

So it's not the answer to my question. No wonder you can't understand that in this situation only ONE PERSON IS WRONG & That Person is Shehnaz. Dey had no better option to deter her from such heinous idea.

Any woman or man you ask will condem Sana for even thinking of the bumping strategy. Never ever happened before anywhere in the world infront of 70 cameras, That should speak volume about her character 👶

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

I have never understood this but why would a girl chest thump a guy? I means isn’t it something private to them.

Unless its a besharam girl

Originally posted by: SoPunk

You are giving some kitabi (Bookish) points which is utterly useless in the situation at hand.

So it's not the answer to my question. No wonder you can't understand that in this situation only ONE PERSON IS WRONG & That Person is Shehnaz. Dey had no better option to deter her from such heinous idea.

Any woman or man you ask will condem Sana for even thinking of the bumping strategy. Never ever happened before anywhere in the world infront of 70 cameras, That should speak volume about her character 👶

I did answer you but it wasn't on par with YOUR opinion. There is no "Kitabi bateein" here. You kept going on about "logic" when clearly it was all impulsive move. You act like there was NO other choice other than PHYSICALLY pushing her. That shifted some blame on him. And I agree with you on Sana and chest bumping so I don't know why you keep mentioning it. Being a women myself, I found it cheap. But I'm looking at the whole fiasco. Not just selective parts. Dey started reacting the minute Sana started instigating. And Sana being the attention seeker she is, continued. If your gonna fight in the mud with a pig, you'll come out dirty. The pig is loving it.

Chalo khush raho.

Matlab kuch bhi!! 🤣😆

Originally posted by: roni_berna

Sana was only entertaining and she just wanted Dey to eat mud as it's good for health (desh ki mitti sona ugle ugle heere moti mere desh ki dharti). Dey had a problem and told her not to push him with her hands and instead pushed her. Sana was smart so she used her chest kyunki woh har cheez chaati thok ke karti hai danke ki chot pe. Agar Dey mud kha leta to kaunsi aafat ho jaati. Toh ab kiski galti hai? Dey ki totally!

I like this reasoning totally lol How did I miss it b4, that's nicely done 🤣