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Originally posted by: ssuuvvii

Lol me & Babes fan ? And i am not Paridhi fan too

Sorry dear you got it wrong...

I just posted what could possible ending for this show to make everyone happy ..since you feel Babes is abusing them what should be done with her character now ? No remdeptiom is posible right ? So its better she leave them with her toxic influence on them...

& Just because we have different views and fans of different actors we can still interact nicely because at the end of the day they are just fictinal characters 😃

I have no problem with different views.....but I've seen plenty of people passing underhanded comments about how Paridhi isn't getting her due in this show because of "bias" towards Mini/Ashnoor....it seemed based on your comments that you subscribed to that viewpoint as well. If not, my bad that I misunderstood.

Yes, Babita is emotionally abusing HS....but when did I ever say that means no redemption is possible? That's your presumption and your opinion. Leaving them would not solve her fundamental personality issues even then.....so simply abandoning someone is no solution to this problem.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

THIS. Thank you. It really gets too much here with how criticism of Babita gets twisted into some kind of bias against her. For me atleast, that's not the case. I get fed up of her tantrums and I rant about her, yes.....but I don't have some vendetta against her character.

As women, we all want to root for Babita's journey...it's depressing and frustrating when she instead keeps devolving....where I disagree with is people claiming that Babita is devolving at the cost of other characters....that supposedly Mini is being venerated so that Babita can be made to look bad.....not true.

If the writers are writing Babita this way, it's not to make Mini look great.....they seem more interested in pushing the limits of how "flawed" certain women can be.....Mini is a foil to Babita....and she has her own flaws that get raised from time to time.....Babita's flaws are front and center to drive the story however the writers want to take it right now.....she's the woman in this story, not Mini.....Mini is still a kid who's trying to support her mom whenever her mom falters....she's a kid wise beyond her years.....I'm not sure why that's such a cause for so much resentment.....if Babita is a mess, it's not cuz of Mini.....Mini is the one trying to make her rise however she can manage....yes, she also makes mistakes, goes about it the wrong way from time to time but she's not the one to blame here.

Babita's issues are fundamental personality issues that have nothing to do with how Mini is.

The fact is, Babita is a mother, and no amount of insecurity or lack of awareness can absolve her of the responsibility for her child, whether Minnie is 18 or 28. I also think they are pushing the limits to show all the different things that women like Babita can do wrong with no one to blame but themselves. As Poonam and NB both have said in different ways, relationships take work and the second time is not easy by default. Here, a kid is involved.

Minnie has had to grow up too fast and even though she tries to boost Babita's confidence and urges her to make the right decisions, all this is subconsciously affecting her too. She is now becoming affected by what people say, is learning to put up a facade and pretend, like her mother has been doing. It's ironic and maybe even almost tragic that Minnie is heading in that direction and becoming a smaller version of the Babita she wanted her mother to stop being.

Originally posted by: inlieu

If sex was all he wanted, he could have found a much simpler gentler girl without complications. He didn't need to go marry Babita and do such hard work.

THAT is the real mystery.....lol if all he wanted was sex, I'm sure there were plenty of other candidates who were in line.

I guess he only felt attracted to Babita.....selective taste he has😆.....he didn't just want sex with anyone....he wanted it with Babita😆.....despite the complications....LOL

Originally posted by: inlieu

Divorce is not necessarily the solution. He made a commitment to her to spend his entire life with her. He won't leave so easily and in some ways he's quite sure about such things. Leaving Babita in a way would mean letting his mother down somehow and he won't let Babita go through another abandonment again, no matter how much it hurts him to be in this situation. It will be his prayashchit.

Babita doesn't even realize that there is a problem or that he is suffering. She is happy, that's all that matters to her. As far as she's concerned, they are a family unit and all is phine.

But why should he suffer in this toxic marriage ? By freeing from this marriage 3 lives will be back on track...Why he should suffer ..He deserve liberation too like Babes not this lifelong punishment on the name of marriage

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I have no problem with different views.....but I've seen plenty of people passing underhanded comments about how Paridhi isn't getting her due in this show because of "bias" towards Mini/Ashnoor....it seemed based on your comments that you subscribed to that viewpoint as well. If not, my bad that I misunderstood.

Yes, Babita is emotionally abusing HS....but when did I ever say that means no redemption is possible? That's your presumption and your opinion. Leaving them would not solve her fundamental personality issues even then.....so simply abandoning someone is no solution to this problem.

I want the CVs to show her light bulb going on one day, where she realizes these are flaws she needs to work on, albeit slowly. Only then can she find solutions. The whole world might encourage her and support her, coach her, but she is the player and has to navigate the field herself.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Honestly bolun, Babita doesn't even know what it means to be IN LOVE.....so it's not about ultimatums of whether she ever loved him or didn't love him......I frankly don't even think she KNOWS how🤔

She's too emotionally stunted an individual to even know what the hell she thinks or really feels.

HS kinda hinted at this when he was talking to her during the scene when she claimed Ashok loved her.

She hides behind Mini as an excuse for things she can't cope with and lashes out if people call her out on it. Bas.

Dunno if I can blame her for this though. She got married at 18 and whatever moments she had with Ashok, she thought of that to be love. 17 years go by where she's living a delusion and thinks that whatever she has with Ashok is still love. That's her version of it. But then the delusion shatters, she gets married again and she's back at square one. At this point, I don't even know if she's capable of being in love with someone or even how to express that properly.

But chalo, even if she doesn't, she can possibly learn. What I can't get is her lack of concern for HS. I mean, agar dost na sahi at least insaniyat ki naate toh kuch dekha de. Bhajiye bana diye aur keh diya yeh meri sachai hai, tum maaze mein khao mein toh Minnie ke liye wait karungi. Like the fck?? At least sit with him and give him some company. Kuch toh baatein kar le par nayi.

Yeh namuna HS ko kahan se mila re.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes he did say that she didn't know how to love. I was hoping that with time she would calm down and relax enough to learn to love herself (in the right way) and learn to love him as her life partner.

Yeah, that's what we all HOPED she took away from that convo.....but all she actually took away was that she needs to show haq....be possessive about her relationships....so that's all she's doing.....jataaoing haq on HS and showing him off to the world as her loving husband😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I have no problem with different views.....but I've seen plenty of people passing underhanded comments about how Paridhi isn't getting her due in this show because of "bias" towards Mini/Ashnoor....it seemed based on your comments that you subscribed to that viewpoint as well. If not, my bad that I misunderstood.

Yes, Babita is emotionally abusing HS....but when did I ever say that means no redemption is possible? That's your presumption and your opinion. Leaving them would not solve her fundamental personality issues even then.....so simply abandoning someone is no solution to this problem.

I didnt make that commnt of Paridhi is not getting his due ..I am.not her fan so I have no idea about her potential and what should be her dues ....

If she is emotionally abusing them.then what is the solution to not to make them suffer more. ?

Originally posted by: ssuuvvii

But why should he suffer in this toxic marriage ? By freeing from this marriage 3 lives will be back on track...Why he should suffer ..He deserve liberation too like Babes not this lifelong punishment on the name of marriage

Because he knew about the amrit manthan and walked into this marriage knowing this sort of thing might happen and it would be up to him to do the heavy lifting. He is an optimist and still has some hope that things might get better. Because he doesn't want Babita, and especially Minnie, to lose that sense of security, or for his own life to become dark and meaningless again.

He would rather suffer and have these two around him than not at all. They literally are his jeene ki aakhri umeed and he would die if they left.

I think if Babita and he split, Minnie might not stay in touch with him anymore. During the omelette scene I was thinking they would still remain in each other's lives, but today the situation is very different. Even if Minnie were to move out with Babita, I don't think she would be able to handle her mother this time. Babita would be a total mess and so would Minnie.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Dunno if I can blame her for this though. She got married at 18 and whatever moments she had with Ashok, she thought of that to be love. 17 years go by where she's living a delusion and thinks that whatever she has with Ashok is still love. That's her version of it. But then the delusion shatters, she gets married again and she's back at square one. At this point, I don't even know if she's capable of being in love with someone or even how to express that properly.

But chalo, even if she doesn't, she can possibly learn. What I can't get is her lack of concern for HS. I mean, agar dost na sahi at least insaniyat ki naate toh kuch dekha de. Bhajiye bana diye aur keh diya yeh meri sachai hai, tum maaze mein khao mein toh Minnie ke liye wait karungi. Like the fck?? At least sit with him and give him some company. Kuch toh baatein kar le par nayi.

Yeh namuna HS ko kahan se mila re.

Exactly.....one can LEARN.....there was once that beautiful scene in the show where HS talks to Daadu about how one can learn at any age....from anyone....there is no perfect age or perfect medium to learn something from......you can learn at anytime from anyone ....if you are CAPABLE of learning.

So even if Babita had a setback and a bad experience before of whatever she presumed love was, she can learn now through the new people in her life, right? HS bhi toh learnt things later in life from Imarti.

Sadly, right now, Babita doesn't seem CAPABLE of learning....that is the problem.