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Well even though this separation track and the presence of vedika is painful...Shivangi And mohsins performance is brilliant..they get better with each episode ...today the scene between karthik and naira was amazing,,,they did a fabulous job..the emotions were so brilliantly portrayed by the both of them...for a while I just forgot the plot and story and enjoyed their acting ...😀

I had decided to not speak about the show till this track gets over but I can’t help it. Just a few points:

I can’t sympathise with Naira, merely because she has never given Kartik his rights as a father. It’s always been “ I am the mother and hence I get to decide everything for my kid”. Had she shown a bit of respect towards Kartik and his love for Kairav, I would have given her the benefit of the doubt but not now. What was she expecting would happen? Kartik would agree for her to move to Goa with Kairav? The whole “I was gonna tell before leaving argument” was invalid because as Manish said she was going to convey her decision to them. It’s not like she was gonna discuss it with Kartik, but then again, for her she doesn’t need to because she’s the mother and Kartik is a just a father who has already lost 5 years of his son’s life thanks to her.

Before people come up with the argument that what is she suppose to do being the third person in Kartik- Vedika’s marriage, then she was fixing that by divorcing him. She doesn’t need to move to another city with his son. Forget about Kartik, what about Kairav? Does the kid deserve this life where he only meets his father few times in a year because his mother wanted to sort out someone else’s married life? I have been saying this from the start, and so has Kartik, Naira shouldn’t interfere in Kartik-Vedika’s life. Whatever it is, it is between them and she should let Kartik deal with it. What happens between a married couple is nobody’s business but their’s. If Kartik is not treating Vedika properly then Vedika should talk to him about it, which she did. How Kartik reacts to it, it’s his call not Naira’s.

As for custody, well again, if a mother gets to keep her child, a father has all the right to fight for his as well, especially one who has always been taken for granted. Kartik is not wrong to have brought a stay order imo. As for his dialogues, I liked what he said in the end. Naira lost it within seconds when she was told about custody, but Kartik lived that life for 5 years. At least Naira will get to fight for her rights, Kartik didn’t even get to do that.

Families are stupid. Their scenes are more like fillers, so idc about what they say or do. Naksh always jumps at the possibility of separating Kartik and Naira. Why can’t he tell Naira he was the one who sat Kartik down in the hospital and told him it’s time to move on. Why can’t the Singhania’s tell Goenkas about Vedika’s suicide attempt?
Manish is one of the root causes of the separation because he forced Naira to lie to Kartik about Mk. Dadi instigated Kartik against Naira. None of them are saints but just love to taunt Kartik and Naira when necessary.

The only one I truly feel bad for right now is Kairav. The kid has been suffering the most due to mistakes made by his parents.

Second i agree with what you said but i want to really ask that did naira not call kartik repeatedly to make him aware that hospital didnt sent the report because she wanted to go away.

Kartik is kairav’s father and law gives both the parents equal rights on child. Why naira doesn’t inform kartik about leaving city with THEIR child kairav before calling to hospital for medical certificate???????

Fact is first she arranged kairav’s medical certificate to move out of city and then she planned to inform Kartik at later stage.Her so called repeatedly done calls were only after finishing all the formalities with hospital authorities for travel certificate. Her so called calls doesn't make any sense after single handedly taking decision for kairav . Kairav should move out of city or not that should be decided by BOTH THE PARENTS. Naira doesn't give any right to kartik when it comes to decision making regarding kairav. Kartik decided to fight for his fatherly rights only because naira doesn't consider him equal when matter is about THEIR CHILD KAIRAV.

Also medical certificate is not a big thing they already registered kairav in the school....and also a mother has every right to take the decisions...its her kid...kartik also took kairav back to gv without informing naira. He also didnt disucss the custody case....and not even once thought how this will effect kairav . Did he think? No. He was like how dare she sent me divorce papers...therw was no mention of custody...from naira. So i dont think kartik has thought what a 5 year old kid would think and feel when kartik so roughly will snatch kairav away from naira. He is selfish.... naira repeatedly said no about custody....she is a mother...but she deserves the divorce. So i dont understand how these two things match up.

Kartik took kairav back to gv without informing naira..that's true...but that was reaction and not an action.ACTION was started by naira 5 years back with hiding son kairav's existence from father kartik , Never giving kartik his equal fatherly rights which he deserves , If child has mother then it doesn't mean father has not any equal decision making right on child. BOTH has equal rights on child and not just mother as per law. Naira is not giving kartik any decision making rights about kairav. Kartik is like outsider who just got informed about what has already decided about THEIR child and his role is just there to accept about all the decisions which naira take for THEIR CHILD.

Kya naira neyeh ek bar bhi socha tha ki woh singhania house chod kar ek bar fir se out of city jayegi to kairav ko kaisa feel hoga?Kya naira ne yeh socha hai ki agar ek baar fir se woh kairav ko out of city le gai to woh kaise apne papa ke bina jina sikhega ??Kartik ne yeh case apne fatherly rights ko bachane ke liye kiya hai yeh clearly dikhta hai. Agar naira usko uska haqq deti to yeh custody case nai hota.

Agar kartik ko sahi mai naira se baccha snatch karna hota to jis din kairav ne goenka house choda usi din custody case file kar leta.Lekin kairav ke singhania house chale jane ke baad bhi kartik ne aisa socha tak nai tha.Naira ne move out ka decision lene se pehle kartik se kuch discuss nai kiya , Decision lene ke baad, Hospital authorities se formalities complete karne ke baad kartik ko sirf decision batane ke liye repeated calls kiye isi wajah se yeh sab trigger hua hai.

If spouse hide child's existence for 5 long years due to whatever reason , If spouse denied to give equal decision making rights on child , If spouse doesn't consider partner equal for child's future repeatedly , then in such cases in real life too you will not left any option other than court way because no parent will ever want to give up their rights on their child even if they are having new family. If you don't want to drag child in court then Single mother has to give equal decision making rights to father and not just visiting rights to father.Here naira has given only visiting rights to kartik and not equal parent rights for their son kairav.

Ps - i dont know even naira really packed her bags and was ready to leave for goa and thus she made that medical certificate...because this is not migration certificate....( Which is required from school which they registered kairav just recently...to move from udaipur to goa they would need it..) also the medical certificate is needed for school. So i dont know if she was planning on leaving and that was just a thought or something.

Naira herself has clearly informed viewers that she wants to leave with kairav that's why she asked for that certificate. She has already confessed her real motive behind making this travel certificate.She confessed this in front of singhanias and in front of doctor too. So her agenda is already very much clear behind this medical travel certificate. Problem is her agenda is related to kairav who is kartik's child too still she doesn't want to give father kartik any equal right about decision making on kairav's future.

Naira should give kartik his father's right and not just visiting rights.Naira agar aise he kartik ke father hone ke haqq ko snatch karti rahegi to yeh to hona he tha. Agar Naira ne pehle din se kartik ko uska father hone ka haqq diya hota to aj yeh sab nai hota.

I had decided to not speak about the show till this track gets over but I can’t help it. Just a few points:

I can’t sympathise with Naira, merely because she has never given Kartik his rights as a father. It’s always been “ I am the mother and hence I get to decide everything for my kid”. Had she shown a bit of respect towards Kartik and his love for Kairav, I would have given her the benefit of the doubt but not now. What was she expecting would happen? Kartik would agree for her to move to Goa with Kairav? The whole “I was gonna tell before leaving argument” was invalid because as Manish said she was going to convey her decision to them. It’s not like she was gonna discuss it with Kartik, but then again, for her she doesn’t need to because she’s the mother and Kartik is a just a father who has already lost 5 years of his son’s life thanks to her.

Before people come up with the argument that what is she suppose to do being the third person in Kartik- Vedika’s marriage, then she was fixing that by divorcing him. She doesn’t need to move to another city with his son. Forget about Kartik, what about Kairav? Does the kid deserve this life where he only meets his father few times in a year because his mother wanted to sort out someone else’s married life? I have been saying this from the start, and so has Kartik, Naira shouldn’t interfere in Kartik-Vedika’s life. Whatever it is, it is between them and she should let Kartik deal with it. What happens between a married couple is nobody’s business but their’s. If Kartik is not treating Vedika properly then Vedika should talk to him about it, which she did. How Kartik reacts to it, it’s his call not Naira’s.

As for custody, well again, if a mother gets to keep her child, a father has all the right to fight for his as well, especially one who has always been taken for granted. Kartik is not wrong to have brought a stay order imo. As for his dialogues, I liked what he said in the end. Naira lost it within seconds when she was told about custody, but Kartik lived that life for 5 years. At least Naira will get to fight for her rights, Kartik didn’t even get to do that.

Families are stupid. Their scenes are more like fillers, so idc about what they say or do. Naksh always jumps at the possibility of separating Kartik and Naira. Why can’t he tell Naira he was the one who sat Kartik down in the hospital and told him it’s time to move on. Why can’t the Singhania’s tell Goenkas about Vedika’s suicide attempt?
Manish is one of the root causes of the separation because he forced Naira to lie to Kartik about Mk. Dadi instigated Kartik against Naira. None of them are saints but just love to taunt Kartik and Naira when necessary.

The only one I truly feel bad for right now is Kairav. The kid has been suffering the most due to mistakes made by his parents.

[/QUOT1 well said👏

Originally posted by: Fari_15

I can’t sympathise with Naira, merely because she has never given Kartik his rights as a father. It’s always been “ I am the mother and hence I get to decide everything for my kid”. Had she shown a bit of respect towards Kartik and his love for Kairav, I would have given her the benefit of the doubt but not now. What was she expecting would happen? Kartik would agree for her to move to Goa with Kairav? The whole “I was gonna tell before leaving argument” was invalid because as Manish said she was going to convey her decision to them. It’s not like she was gonna discuss it with Kartik, but then again, for her she doesn’t need to because she’s the mother and Kartik is a just a father who has already lost 5 years of his son’s life thanks to her.

Just like you, i can't sympathise with naira. She was just going to convey him her decision.it was not like she was gonna discuss with kartik....why? Kairav is kartik's child too . Why she can't discuss with kartik BEFORE taking decision? Why she never gives kartik his rights as father?

Naira did right job by giving divorce papers and kartik did fabulous job with stay order👏

Before people come up with the argument that what is she suppose to do being the third person in Kartik- Vedika’s marriage, then she was fixing that by divorcing him. She doesn’t need to move to another city with his son. Forget about Kartik, what about Kairav? Does the kid deserve this life where he only meets his father few times in a year because his mother wanted to sort out someone else’s married life? I have been saying this from the start, and so has Kartik, Naira shouldn’t interfere in Kartik-Vedika’s life. Whatever it is, it is between them and she should let Kartik deal with it. What happens between a married couple is nobody’s business but their’s. If Kartik is not treating Vedika properly then Vedika should talk to him about it, which she did. How Kartik reacts to it, it’s his call not Naira’s.

So true behna👏👏👏 No child deserves that kind of life where he only meets his father few times in a year specially when father-son loves each other so much. Naira should give kartik equal rights but she never give that him so now this legal battle by kartik. Naira ne sacchai se kartik ko uska haqq diya hotaa pehle din se to aj kartik ko yeh step nai lena padta.

As for custody, well again, if a mother gets to keep her child, a father has all the right to fight for his as well, especially one who has always been taken for granted. Kartik is not wrong to have brought a stay order imo. As for his dialogues, I liked what he said in the end. Naira lost it within seconds when she was told about custody, but Kartik lived that life for 5 years. At least Naira will get to fight for her rights, Kartik didn’t even get to do that.

Stay order is nice sixer by kartik.I am so glad with that stay order line.I was cheering for kartik while watching that dialog. Kartik did very true with that stay order.Naira have never given equal parent rights to kartik. Now she will understand how it feels when someone give you just visiting rights and not co-parenting rights.

At this point it's not even about who is right and who is wrong because in my opinion both are equally at fault.... Kartik doesn't want to address problems and Naira goes out of her way to fix it to the way she can. But what is making me sick to the stomach is the whole Goenka khandaan attacking Naira like that. I've had enough of it! When will Kartik ever face the wrath for he's deeds or will that always get forgotten by making Naira make counter mistakes? I'm sorry Naira wrong or right I stand by her cuz I'm sick of watching Kartik getting away without even half of what Naira gets thrown at her. And honestly his so called love is waste of space cuz when she really needs his love and trust he is 1st in line to shatter her then comes his pura toxic khandaan.

Originally posted by: Fari_15

I had decided to not speak about the show till this track gets over but I can’t help it. Just a few points:

I can’t sympathise with Naira, merely because she has never given Kartik his rights as a father. It’s always been “ I am the mother and hence I get to decide everything for my kid”. Had she shown a bit of respect towards Kartik and his love for Kairav, I would have given her the benefit of the doubt but not now. What was she expecting would happen? Kartik would agree for her to move to Goa with Kairav? The whole “I was gonna tell before leaving argument” was invalid because as Manish said she was going to convey her decision to them. It’s not like she was gonna discuss it with Kartik, but then again, for her she doesn’t need to because she’s the mother and Kartik is a just a father who has already lost 5 years of his son’s life thanks to her.

Before people come up with the argument that what is she suppose to do being the third person in Kartik- Vedika’s marriage, then she was fixing that by divorcing him. She doesn’t need to move to another city with his son. Forget about Kartik, what about Kairav? Does the kid deserve this life where he only meets his father few times in a year because his mother wanted to sort out someone else’s married life? I have been saying this from the start, and so has Kartik, Naira shouldn’t interfere in Kartik-Vedika’s life. Whatever it is, it is between them and she should let Kartik deal with it. What happens between a married couple is nobody’s business but their’s. If Kartik is not treating Vedika properly then Vedika should talk to him about it, which she did. How Kartik reacts to it, it’s his call not Naira’s.

As for custody, well again, if a mother gets to keep her child, a father has all the right to fight for his as well, especially one who has always been taken for granted. Kartik is not wrong to have brought a stay order imo. As for his dialogues, I liked what he said in the end. Naira lost it within seconds when she was told about custody, but Kartik lived that life for 5 years. At least Naira will get to fight for her rights, Kartik didn’t even get to do that.

Families are stupid. Their scenes are more like fillers, so idc about what they say or do. Naksh always jumps at the possibility of separating Kartik and Naira. Why can’t he tell Naira he was the one who sat Kartik down in the hospital and told him it’s time to move on. Why can’t the Singhania’s tell Goenkas about Vedika’s suicide attempt?
Manish is one of the root causes of the separation because he forced Naira to lie to Kartik about Mk. Dadi instigated Kartik against Naira. None of them are saints but just love to taunt Kartik and Naira when necessary.

The only one I truly feel bad for right now is Kairav. The kid has been suffering the most due to mistakes made by his parents.

i understand where you are coming from as i said in the last of the post that i didnt know whether naira wanted to just pack and leave to goa. Based on shivangi iv i said all this but still my major point will be of goenkas ...they have never treated naira good. And this problem of her going away.... she didnt plan it just after coming from gv. ...did she ? That is why i am cutting her some slack. Literally no one cares for her...and thats also upto a point okay. But when will we see kartik bashed like this ? He gets away with it easily...no taunts...no reminders of what he did and what caused this ...by any of goenkas. I have scene by scene saw how goenkas treat vedika because she is pasand ki ladki and how they treat naira because she had being chosen by kartik. That is what makes me sick...that is the reason i have not said a word about kartik being arrogant because his fears i get...they portray them nicely...but for naira..thwir is no back story....no painful memories shown which we also know that they exist. But cvs love kartik way much then naira.

Also about naira giving kartik self respect....i am a little curious that she has given kartik every chanceto shower love on kairav.... even if it was in hospital or gv...but the suicide drama really pushed naira off the bench and from that thing i totally agree with you. I didnt not know...because i just saw clips of manish and kdadi and never saw something like naksh being so hard on kartik for pointing a finger at nairas character. Thus my reaction.

Kairav is going to be so bad to watch .... no one thinks of him. Not naira ( now that i know she really did plan to go to goa ) and nor kartik.

Originally posted by: Indira1211

Well even though this separation track and the presence of vedika is painful...Shivangi And mohsins performance is brilliant..they get better with each episode ...today the scene between karthik and naira was amazing,,,they did a fabulous job..the emotions were so brilliantly portrayed by the both of them...for a while I just forgot the plot and story and enjoyed their acting ...😀

They totally do these ghamasan eye locks ....during fights...and every scene is just so perfect...i am toh like hayeee...they potray emotions so well....

@sweet_tania

Now that i know that naira planned on moving ...i dont know why but in my opinion personally think that this desicion naira has take in every way wrong...but at the same time...i haven't seen kartik doing anything or giving any way to be with naira.

Now let me clear you what i am trying to say. First naira is absolutely wrong in making this goa jane wala scene.

Second kartik didnt made it clear to her that where she stands in her life. Nor kartik paid attention to the fact that they are still married...ab naira ko toh nahi pata hai ki shadi kiski marzi se or kese hui hai...but kartik knows right ? Usne stand kyu nahi liya ? Kartik was not blackmailed right? He could have easily gone to naira told her that why did you send me divorce papers and are you trying to take kairav away. Once . Only once did he come and ask ? Kher choro trust jab hai hi nahi toh bat kya krni .

Third i dont understand what divorce had to do with custody. If they get divorced will all the custody go to kartik or to naira ? If to naira then its not how its done. ? Doesnt parents both talk to each other after divorce...that if we have a joint custody that will be fine ...if their is dispute then court will decide...but didnt naira already cleared that ...he can come and meet anytime...also they will visit...so i dont understand kartiks reaction based on divorce papers. That is what bothers me. Mujhe smjh nhi ata ki usse vedika as a wife chaiye. Naira as a backup and kairav as a son...toh aisa toh possible nhi hai. Toh iska mtalb agr divorce hota hi nhi toh naira ka wese bhi koi future nahi h ...lekin she couldnt marry if she is still married to a already married man. Usne toh na bola ki vedika chaiye na ye ki naira chaiye..but usse pata hai ki vedika kahi jayegi nahi... or naira kairav ke bina rhegi nahi.

Also kdadi and manish should really just shut up. I dont care for them...they literally wash their kittus feet but will put swords on naira haq wqt. And i am fed of them behaving with naira as she is their own punching bag.

About kairav no one cares. Not even naira ...she didnt think how he will live without kartik. And kartik doesnt care ...because he didnt think that what would kairav feel...in court and without a mother.

Originally posted by: Fireiswithinus

i understand where you are coming from as i said in the last of the post that i didnt know whether naira wanted to just pack and leave to goa. Based on shivangi iv i said all this but still my major point will be of goenkas ...they have never treated naira good. And this problem of her going away.... she didnt plan it just after coming from gv. ...did she ? That is why i am cutting her some slack. Literally no one cares for her...and thats also upto a point okay. But when will we see kartik bashed like this ? He gets away with it easily...no taunts...no reminders of what he did and what caused this ...by any of goenkas. I have scene by scene saw how goenkas treat vedika because she is pasand ki ladki and how they treat naira because she had being chosen by kartik. That is what makes me sick...that is the reason i have not said a word about kartik being arrogant because his fears i get...they portray them nicely...but for naira..thwir is no back story....no painful memories shown which we also know that they exist. But cvs love kartik way much then naira.

Also about naira giving kartik self respect....i am a little curious that she has given kartik every chanceto shower love on kairav.... even if it was in hospital or gv...but the suicide drama really pushed naira off the bench and from that thing i totally agree with you. I didnt not know...because i just saw clips of manish and kdadi and never saw something like naksh being so hard on kartik for pointing a finger at nairas character. Thus my reaction.

Kairav is going to be so bad to watch .... no one thinks of him. Not naira ( now that i know she really did plan to go to goa ) and nor kartik.

See that’s the thing. With Kartik, I don’t know about others but I don’t have to try to sympathise with the guy because each time his reactions are given a proper built-up. Him questioning Naira’s character was horrendous but still there was a sequence of events which led to that. They spent an entire month just leading up to that dreadful night. Then after the leap, his stance was pretty much the same. He was broken but he was living for his family. Now, he’s only focussed on Kairav and wanting to be with him. When they show Naira deciding to take that one thing away from Kartik, obviously we instantly feel for him.

Coming towards Naira, barring a few instances, I have to force myself to feel sorry for her because the storyline for her character is so weak. Post leap she’s been all over the place. Her reasons to stay away from Kartik and family for 5 years weren’t strong enough. The only thing she had was what if Kartik questions the child’s paternity and she was proved wrong within seconds of the confrontation, making her appear stupid. She chose to allow for the marriage to happen and now her son has to pay for it.

I didn’t watch yesterday’s episode, so I might be wrong here but was Naira shown thinking about Kairav and what he wants for even a second? She wants to divorce Kartik because she has promised Vedika she would return her husband to him? What kind of a dialogue is that? Is he a toy that can be passed around? Isn’t that what Naira has done with Kartik from the moment he confessed his love for her? Taken decisions on his behalf assuming he would just go along with her because he loves her? If anything, I feel that’s exploitation of his love.

Manish was too harsh today but he wasn’t entirely wrong. Naira always takes the decisions and assumes everyone would just support her. She doesn’t consult, she tells them. Whenever things get out of control, she chooses the easy the way out; running away from the situation. She has done a lot for that family but she even allowed their son to live this lifeless son for 5 years. She didn’t tell them about their grandson and now took a decision to just take him away to another city. I don’t expect anyone to pat her on her back and praise her for being selfless or sympathise with her because she’s choosing to separate a child from his father so that Kartik can start his life with Vedika.

As for giving Kartik his rights, allowing for Kartik to spend time with Kairav or showering him with love, is not the same as giving him his proper rights. There have been so many instances since the confrontation where Naira has made it known to Kartik that she has more rights over Kairav’s, she knows him better, if it came to choosing, Kairav would chose her and what not. The messages have been subtle but they have been there. Little does she realise that the only reason Kartik doesn’t know as much as she does about his child or father hood is because of her and her immature decisions.

Maybe Kartik has it easy, but we should blame Naira’s family and Naira for that not the Goenkas. I am sure if she would have gone to her brother 5 years back, he would have stood by her in the same way as he’s standing by her now. He would even bashed Kartik, the way he deserved to be. 5 years later, after seeing what Kartik went through, most of them think he’s already suffered enough for his actions. I hope that character questioning is addressed soon because it was the root cause of it all. More than the questioning, Kartik needs to be confronted about what he wants from Vedika. How long does he intent to continue this relationship. What is he planning on telling Kairav. These are the real issues not let’s pack your bag, so that Kartik can start his life with Vedika.