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Posted: 6 years ago
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Also guys a thought came in my mind,Umair told sumbul he would come directly to the hospital and we saw sumbul with her mom in her arms on the bed.Do you think we may get some flash backs of Aaliya's death with umair /sadia later on .Do you guys think they were able to say goodbye.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sami011

see if I look at it from my own point of view all these things are terrible but makers have made mockery out of martial rape,they considered it as some thing normal.

But I dont think relationship is doomed despite all this ,A child between a couple changes a lot between you and time is biggest healer but realistically it can take years.It wont be a ideal relationship though,personally I feel that does not exist

You are basing everything on a kid.. do you realize that even rapes and I mean actual rapes culminate in pregnancy.. does that change anything? No.. if a husband is a philanderer or abuser, if the wife gets pregnant, does that change anything? No.. having a kid does not mean the guy gets forgiven.. if the writers wanted to show something else other than rape, they shouldn't have shown Sadia crying.. if Sadia gave into Umair willingly in night, she shouldn't be crying the next morning

not having an ideal relationship is one thing, having one with scars is quite another..

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Posted: 6 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

You are basing everything on a kid.. do you realize that even rapes and I mean actual rapes culminate in pregnancy.. does that change anything? No.. if a husband is a philanderer or abuser, if the wife gets pregnant, does that change anything? No.. having a kid does not mean the guy gets forgiven.. if the writers wanted to show something else other than rape, they shouldn't have shown Sadia crying.. if Sadia gave into Umair willingly in night, she shouldn't be crying the next morning

not having an ideal relationship is one thing, having one with scars is quite another..

yes i agree with that. having a kid dosent hide the fact he raped her

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Dear goodness!! Daily fights between husband and wife is not the same as physical, mental abuse.. it's not the same as questioning your wife's character or raping her for that matter. Islam undoubtedly places importance on husband wife relationship but in Islam, bohtan lagana is a serious, very serious gunah too.. and in Islam, it is definitely not allowed to force your wife to sleep with you.. Islam is all about respect to women.. you cannot force a woman for anything..

Kids should never ever be the reason tp stay in a marriage... That is a horrible idea since you will basically be making the kid a victim of emotional stress

Lastly, Umair kuch bhiv karle, he cannot undo the sins he did... So ya.. i can understand ppl wanting the two to be together because of chemistry or whatever but if we talk about story, these two should never ever end up together.. it's a very very wrong message which should not be encouraged .

Even in real life, a wife would never want to stay with a husband who do her to prove parentage of her kid.. that would be an unpardonable crime for any mother

firstly me and Sami dono yaha normal marriage life me jo problem aati hai wo baat kar rahe the.. I clearly said marrige me fight ho ok but small small honi chahiye..me yaha generally marriage and divorce par baat kar rahi thi, sadia and umair ka topic hum discuss nahi kar Rahe the kyu k unki fights small nahi thi.

second yes islaam me kahi bhi nahi likha k husband wife ka rape kare.nikaah halaal hai and is me rape jaisa harass kaam bilkul bhi accepted nahi hai

ek wife apne husband se khula le sakti hai agar wo uske saath khush na ho.. ya usko apna husband pasand na ho, islaam me women k bahot rights hai.. even nikaah me bhi isliye pehle woman se pucha jata hai.. than Mard se puchte hai.

sadia k saath umair ne wo sab kiya jiska tumne upar comment me bataya hai.. and real life me koi aisa kisi k saath kare to me yahi kahugi k usko khula lekar alag ho Jana chahiye... but hum sirf advice de sakte hai.. usse aage kuch nahi.. b/c ye husband and wife ka personal mattar hai. sadia meri koi sister ya daughter nahi hai k me usko bithakar samjhau k plzzz is horrible marriage se bahar as jao.. she is a character and jo character writer ne likha hai usko ye rape, physical and mental abuse.. lag hi nahi raha.. she is ok with it.. infact sadia ne to umair se pyaar hai ya phir uska haq hai us par ye bhi bol diya hai last epi me... it means agar uska haq hai umair par to wo apne upar umair ka haq bhi samjhti hogi.. isliye usko umair ka by force relation banana kabhi rape laga hi nahi.. wo to mujhe tumhe aur baki sabko lagta hai.. and hum sab different soch and different background se aate hai..and follow karte hai. so har topic ya matter par same thinking nahi rakh sakte.. I respect ur views.

Islamic wise dekha jaye to ek husband ka apni wife par full right hota hai. uska jab mann kare wo uske saath physical ho sakta hai..but wife khush na ho than wo usko chod De.. sadia ne yaha ye nahi kiya.usne umair ko bola tha k tumhra meri bahen se milna najayaz hai.. means usko apna and umair ka relation jayaz laga.. so ab hum kar hi kya sakte hai. jiske liye stand le rahe hai wo to ok hai. lol

jab umair ne first type baby ko accept nahi kiya tha sadia ko t abhi usko chod dena chahiye tha. sadia me koi self respect nahi hai. wo baar baar apne bacche ko humiliate karwati rahi.. wo bhi uske apne baap se.

abhi bhi sadia umair ko apne par lagaaye bohtaan k liye maaf nahi kar rahi.. rape par to wo maaf kar chuki hai.. and even usne us din k baad kabhi umair se bola bhi nahi rape ka.. so yaha sadia weak hai.. ya phir yu kaho usne rape ko as a rape consider hi nahi kiya.

u said sadia agar umair ko accept karegi to wrong msg hoga.. yes but ye baat writer ko koi batao HER NAME IS SAMINA IJAZ somebody plzz msg her.

YT par 95% peoples said sadia umair ko maaf nahi kar rahi but zobi ko kyu kuch nahi bol rahi... basically sadia me as a character bahot se fault hai. jiska kisi ko samjh nahi aaya. wo sab bhi same yahi bol rahe hai jo me bol rahi hu k zobi ko maaf kiya to umair ko bhi kar de b/c wo to sorry hai jab k zobi still game kar rahi hai

jaha tak baat hai chemistry ki to mujhe ayeza and muneeb jayada pasand hai.. ye show start hi unke liye kiya tha.. but story wise umair sadia k saath hi sahi hai. isliye unke side hu. jaise imraan ayeza my fav but KCR me umair rabail mere fab the. so yaha koi personal fav nahi hai.

and BTW my name is sana not a goodnesssmiley37what is ur name..?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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sorry for abhi tak ka sabse long comment k liye 🤣

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Sadia Umair have too much water under the bridge.. no way can they have a normal marital life.. can Sadia forget Umair forced himself on her/forced her for DNA/made a Tamasha out of her? Can Umair forget everything he has put Sadia through?! Nah.. their relationship is doomed.. I wonder what the writer was thinking while writing these crappy, desperate and lowlife characters with no redeeming qualities

ye baat humne director ko bhi bol dee hai uske insta par.. ab batao aur kya kare🤔lol

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

You are basing everything on a kid.. do you realize that even rapes and I mean actual rapes culminate in pregnancy.. does that change anything? No.. if a husband is a philanderer or abuser, if the wife gets pregnant, does that change anything? No.. having a kid does not mean the guy gets forgiven.. if the writers wanted to show something else other than rape, they shouldn't have shown Sadia crying.. if Sadia gave into Umair willingly in night, she shouldn't be crying the next morning

not having an ideal relationship is one thing, having one with scars is quite another..

I dont know what to say except here they are married and girl thinks that it is a jayez relationship,to her him accepting the baby and accepting her as a wife matters a lot.When he finally said can you forgive me,she was crying,never once she showed any aversion to him,am talking from her point of view

a rape child from gang rape or from a husband is two different things at least in our society.I am not all saying any of it is right ,but my own POV for sake of your children ,if you have to live in less than perfect relationship,it is ok.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanabmw

Islamic wise dekha jaye to ek husband ka apni wife par full right hota hai. uska jab mann kare wo uske saath physical ho sakta hai..but wife khush na ho than wo usko chod De.. sadia ne yaha ye nahi kiya.usne umair ko bola tha k tumhra meri bahen se milna najayaz hai.. means usko apna and umair ka relation jayaz laga.. so ab hum kar hi kya sakte hai. jiske liye stand le rahe hai wo to ok hai. lol


Grossly untrue.. husband ko wife or right hai but only with wife's consent.. if the wife does not want to indulge in physical intimacy with her, husband cannot force her.. That is prohibited.. wife ka chorna na chorna is secondary.. but. Husband forcing himself on his wife without her consent is a gunah.. husband is not even allowed to force his wife to live with his parents.. wife has the right to demand a separate house from him and you think husband has such unconditional right on her body?! No..

The rest I think is just going in circles.. you think it's acceptable if Sadia and Umair end up together for whatever reason and I think that end would be worst possible.. you think people should stay in such a marriage, I think no child deserves such a father

And lastly, whether Sadia forgives Zoobie or not does not concern me.. simply because it wouldn't impact her life in any way .

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanabmw

firstly me and Sami dono yaha normal marriage life me jo problem aati hai wo baat kar rahe the.. I clearly said marrige me fight ho ok but small small honi chahiye..me yaha generally marriage and divorce par baat kar rahi thi, sadia and umair ka topic hum discuss nahi kar Rahe the kyu k unki fights small nahi thi.

second yes islaam me kahi bhi nahi likha k husband wife ka rape kare.nikaah halaal hai and is me rape jaisa harass kaam bilkul bhi accepted nahi hai

ek wife apne husband se khula le sakti hai agar wo uske saath khush na ho.. ya usko apna husband pasand na ho, islaam me women k bahot rights hai.. even nikaah me bhi isliye pehle woman se pucha jata hai.. than Mard se puchte hai.

sadia k saath umair ne wo sab kiya jiska tumne upar comment me bataya hai.. and real life me koi aisa kisi k saath kare to me yahi kahugi k usko khula lekar alag ho Jana chahiye... but hum sirf advice de sakte hai.. usse aage kuch nahi.. b/c ye husband and wife ka personal mattar hai. sadia meri koi sister ya daughter nahi hai k me usko bithakar samjhau k plzzz is horrible marriage se bahar as jao.. she is a character and jo character writer ne likha hai usko ye rape, physical and mental abuse.. lag hi nahi raha.. she is ok with it.. infact sadia ne to umair se pyaar hai ya phir uska haq hai us par ye bhi bol diya hai last epi me... it means agar uska haq hai umair par to wo apne upar umair ka haq bhi samjhti hogi.. isliye usko umair ka by force relation banana kabhi rape laga hi nahi.. wo to mujhe tumhe aur baki sabko lagta hai.. and hum sab different soch and different background se aate hai..and follow karte hai. so har topic ya matter par same thinking nahi rakh sakte.. I respect ur views.

Islamic wise dekha jaye to ek husband ka apni wife par full right hota hai. uska jab mann kare wo uske saath physical ho sakta hai..but wife khush na ho than wo usko chod De.. sadia ne yaha ye nahi kiya.usne umair ko bola tha k tumhra meri bahen se milna najayaz hai.. means usko apna and umair ka relation jayaz laga.. so ab hum kar hi kya sakte hai. jiske liye stand le rahe hai wo to ok hai. lol

jab umair ne first type baby ko accept nahi kiya tha sadia ko t abhi usko chod dena chahiye tha. sadia me koi self respect nahi hai. wo baar baar apne bacche ko humiliate karwati rahi.. wo bhi uske apne baap se.

abhi bhi sadia umair ko apne par lagaaye bohtaan k liye maaf nahi kar rahi.. rape par to wo maaf kar chuki hai.. and even usne us din k baad kabhi umair se bola bhi nahi rape ka.. so yaha sadia weak hai.. ya phir yu kaho usne rape ko as a rape consider hi nahi kiya.

u said sadia agar umair ko accept karegi to wrong msg hoga.. yes but ye baat writer ko koi batao HER NAME IS SAMINA IJAZ somebody plzz msg her.

YT par 95% peoples said sadia umair ko maaf nahi kar rahi but zobi ko kyu kuch nahi bol rahi... basically sadia me as a character bahot se fault hai. jiska kisi ko samjh nahi aaya. wo sab bhi same yahi bol rahe hai jo me bol rahi hu k zobi ko maaf kiya to umair ko bhi kar de b/c wo to sorry hai jab k zobi still game kar rahi hai

jaha tak baat hai chemistry ki to mujhe ayeza and muneeb jayada pasand hai.. ye show start hi unke liye kiya tha.. but story wise umair sadia k saath hi sahi hai. isliye unke side hu. jaise imraan ayeza my fav but KCR me umair rabail mere fab the. so yaha koi personal fav nahi hai.

and BTW my name is sana not a goodnesssmiley37what is ur name..?

yes Sana we are talking multidimentionally ,generally.

Sadia in real life probably would have reacted more to zoobie marrying her ex,she was happy for her.The character has so many flaws.She and Umair both had no trust in each other.

Something happened and she got pregnant,she was only angry for few days but considered it jayez.

See I cant comment on rights in islam as am not muslim and I feel it is not my place to say so.am going by what is shown in the drama.Character of Sadia atleast until yesterday's episode does not consider it rape,she was more anguished by baditmadi(lol my urdu is becoming very good😆 jo maine punjabi urdu kayede se seekhi).She even feels she is in love with umair so if she thinks it was ok for umair to do so,who am I to object.I can just get mad at writer/director/character.

And I agree sana on logic by people on YT insta and all that if she can even console zoobie why so much anger for Umair. But uska gussa tha jayez,he deserved every single thing she said to him.

But I do want to say some thing about cultural rights--many traditions in our societies are cultural,they are not religious ,jaise pati sab kuch hai and all ,the reforms take time and martial rape is a topic that needs to be explored with sensitivity

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Posted: 6 years ago
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also kuch hum gareebon ka bhi socho...ek baar phere le ke saat janam ke liye phas gaye🤣

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