Trust issues - Page 4

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Her trauma seems endless, man.....10,000 angles se explore ho chuka hai, 10,000 types ka gyaan mil chuka hai from all kinds of people....but do you get any sort of confidence that she is coming out of it? I don't😕

She is always just a slight trigger away from devolving again....that is what this wedding track has proven.....toh kab aayegi apne trauma se baahar to ever even think of HS ka emotional trauma?

Compeletly agree, i am so getting frustrated with no growth of babita. Everytime same thing happens, she gets angry someone lectures, she is ok for some time , she then again gets angry throw tantrum some one again explains her. Bus ho gai ab to

Ab to even i guess pari is getting frustrated with the way her character is shown . She is stuck at same point. I dont if and when will writers show her growth. Or she will always remain tool for trps.

Excellent analysis of the episode by you, Anu! 🤗

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: This can only happen if they actually talk about it upfront....they still haven't addressed the fact that mother-daughter get consumed in their own world and haven't made space for HS there.....but the writers insist on making the different characters crutches from time to time.....

HS-Mini used to share an independent relationship before this....but everyone seems to have forgotten that now😔......he fell for HER first....Babita toh baad mein aayi yaar.....ah well.....I shouldn't have expected so much in my own head😆

I know exactly what you mean. The fact that HS from time to time has an outburst about being used as a punching bag gives me hope that this would be addressed at one point.

Yes, correct. Minnie became his heartbeat first, and she should always remain in that spot.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Jean, you are just as optimistic as HS sometimes😆

I am exhausted by Babita right now....and I can't even fathom what it would take for her to have enough cognitive ability to get to that point.....looking at her right now, it doesn't seem she is capable of that much.

All the recent scenes only give the feel that she is comfortable being coddled by HS and him making all the extra efforts to manage her unreasonable behavior....she is too consumed by by her own insecurities to even begin to fathom someone else's state of mind.....this relationship will remain imbalanced like this only cuz she is content preparing khaana and doing thoda bahut romance....baaki toh Mini ke baare mein sochne mein nikal jaata hai time.....lol so when will she think about him on that level?

Yeh Dilli toh permanently door hai.....hum sab Kanyakumari mein hi baithe rahenge permanently....Babes se na ho paana😆

What would it take for her to get to that point? 300 episodes!

I wonder if this imbalance would always remain, if the CVs have the guts to show this. There many couples in the world like that, and HS might end up having to make some compromises to keep this relationship stable, if possible.

What he said about drinking poison might last much longer than he or we expected.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Her trauma seems endless, man.....10,000 angles se explore ho chuka hai, 10,000 types ka gyaan mil chuka hai from all kinds of people....but do you get any sort of confidence that she is coming out of it? I don't😕

She is always just a slight trigger away from devolving again....that is what this wedding track has proven.....toh kab aayegi apne trauma se baahar to ever even think of HS ka emotional trauma?

17 saal bhaari padh gaye kuch mahinon par.

I think that's the point here, that people recover at different paces. At least that's what I assume they are trying to show, baaki CVs hi jaanein.

Originally posted by: inlieu

What would it take for her to get to that point? 300 episodes!

I wonder if this imbalance would always remain, if the CVs have the guts to show this. There many couples in the world like that, and HS might end up having to make some compromises to keep this relationship stable, if possible.

What he said about drinking poison might last much longer than he or we expected.

I get what you're saying....and I'm not expecting a perfect balance either. My expectation is simply regarding the recognition that a relationship needs BOTH people to step up from time to time.....that is what HS said to her after the Poonam blow up also....kabhi main stumble karun toh aap sambhaal lena ji.....

Relationships where only one person makes all the compromises are not healthy and IMO sustaining more out of habit than love.

One thing they tried to show in this track is that we all focus on our own POVs and consider ourselves justified....from the outside, it is obvious to everyone that HS is having to step up way more for this relationship.....but in Babita's head, she probably thinks she too is making as much adjustment as she can.....that's how it happens in the real world also.....we all think we are doing more than the other without always being able to be objective about it.

I just wish that even if that was the case, they TALK through it....I don't want this to become the default expectation that he only accommodates on every level while Babita thinks just cooking and basic wifely chores show her doing enough.....no, that's not how this should be.

I expect more from this show cuz they claim they are trying to show an emancipated approach....in that case, they should address the point that there should be EQUAL pulling of weight in a marriage ultimately.....that doesn't mean ki one can't be pampered more out of love.....but CRUCIAL points pe you should step up....otherwise you will be in a vicious spiral that will doom you at some point.

Originally posted by: inlieu

17 saal bhaari padh gaye kuch mahinon par.

I think that's the point here, that people recover at different paces. At least that's what I assume they are trying to show, baaki CVs hi jaanein.

Yeah, that is probably their point but they have to take a call at some point if they really want to show a proper story of emancipation....yes, trauma is not easy to get over.....I absolutely understand that.....but you have to show some level of evolution for a STORY....at the end of the day we are not watching a documentary here....if they want to be that realistic, then they should start showing us every little vegetable Babita cuts for every dish she makes too....why gloss over that either? 😛

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I get what you're saying....and I'm not expecting a perfect balance either. My expectation is simply regarding the recognition that a relationship needs BOTH people to step up from time to time.....that is what HS said to her after the Poonam blow up also....kabhi main stumble karun toh aap sambhaal lena ji.....

Relationships where only one person makes all the compromises are not healthy and IMO sustaining more out of habit than love.

One thing they tried to show in this track is that we all focus on our own POVs and consider ourselves justified....from the outside, it is obvious to everyone that HS is having to step up way more for this relationship.....but in Babita's head, she probably thinks she too is making as much adjustment as she can.....that's how it happens in the real world also.....we all think we are doing more than the other without always being able to be objective about it.

I just wish that even if that was the case, they TALK through it....I don't want this to become the default expectation that he only accommodates on every level while Babita thinks just cooking and basic wifely chores show her doing enough.....no, that's not how this should be.

I expect more from this show cuz they claim they are trying to show an emancipated approach....in that case, they should address the point that there should be EQUAL pulling of weight in a marriage ultimately.....that doesn't mean ki one can't be pampered more out of love.....but CRUCIAL points pe you should step up....otherwise you will be in a vicious spiral that will doom you at some point.

They have spoiled us with fab writing since the beginning so our expectations of them have also increased. I totally get what you mean.

I know they are doing some things for TRPs just to keep the show going long enough to finish all the arcs, but still it doesn't mean that they drag things or not even hint at the fact that some of these concerns will be addressed.

They said the wedding was just the start of the real story, so I wonder what else they are going to show us.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yeah, that is probably their point but they have to take a call at some point if they really want to show a proper story of emancipation....yes, trauma is not easy to get over.....I absolutely understand that.....but you have to show some level of evolution for a STORY....at the end of the day we are not watching a documentary here....if they want to be that realistic, then they should start showing us every little vegetable Babita cuts for every dish she makes too....why gloss over that either? 😛

I think what bothers me is not knowing whether such points will ever be addressed, especially considering they were so meticulously crafted and brought up. At least they can bring them up from time to time even if they don't delve into it and show a bit of progress or characters' introspection.

Originally posted by: inlieu

They have spoiled us with fab writing since the beginning so our expectations of them have also increased. I totally get what you mean.

I know they are doing some things for TRPs just to keep the show going long enough to finish all the arcs, but still it doesn't mean that they drag things or not even hint at the fact that some of these concerns will be addressed.

They said the wedding was just the start of the real story, so I wonder what else they are going to show us.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I think what bothers me is not knowing whether such points will ever be addressed, especially considering they were so meticulously crafted and brought up. At least they can bring them up from time to time even if they don't delve into it and show a bit of progress or characters' introspection.

@bold: THIS....exactly what ends up bothering me from time to time as well.....they don't give us enough assurance that some concerns WILL be addressed eventually.....and in the time we're waiting, hum log kya kya soch lete hain😆.....agar thoda assurance mil jaaye toh we wouldn't get so worked up speculating.

That also only happens because we are so attached to the characters and full credit to the writing for creating such characters that we've grown to love so much....but then it always comes down to managing expectations for what you've created.

Off late, I get the sense that the writers put in some things simply to turn expectations on their head...regardless of whether or not it jives with the characterizations.....like they have to prove some point of being contrary.....somewhere they've lost sight of the balance between doing something refreshing and being contrary for the heck of it.

We expect so much precisely because this is the rare show that has taken care of nuances very meticulously far beyond our expectations.....and our expectations are not that the characters have to be perfect....our expectations are all around atleast putting in nuances to address things side by side....and the writers falter there from time to time whether or not they want to admit it.