Loyality Vs morality - Page 5

Originally posted by: aryapdane

I don't know if you got the memo but Bajaj didn't claim to be a saint ever. Also we don't know about his back story, so let's not judge if the revenge he wanted to take was justified or not.

@ bold: he did show remorse. It was not crushing guilt. But he was guilty enough to go back. It was when he found out that Anu had been taken to the hospital that returned home. He confessed to Prerna, the only person whose opinion he cares about. Told her he couldn't believe that he hadn't helped Anu. Also told her he thought Anu wasn't seriously hurt.

As to why he didn't react, he said that he went into shock. Also, he never said he increased the speed of the car to hit Anu. He said, I was angry so I was driving fast. I saw Anurag, increased the speed of the car and Anurag came in front of the car.

Now I would like to humbly submit this for consideration. What was Anurag doing in the middle of the road, talking on the phone and not making a move when he clearly saw a car was coming at him? But that's okay I guess 🙄

Now onto the so called blackmail...

Whether Bajaj is a blackmailer or not depends on how you define the term. What I understand from the term blackmail (which is the definition by Oxford Dictionary, by the way) is that it's an act of making someone do something against their will by threatening harm that is other than physical.

Did he threaten Prerna anyway? No. He gave her a choice. A deal. He'd help her if she gave him something in return. She could have, at any point chosen to not take the deal. Mr. Bajaj wouldn't even have interfered in the trail. There was no choice between the devil and the deep blue sea. The only consequence of Prerna's refusal would have been that it would have taken longer to get Anurag out of the jail. Or are we going to suggest that India's judiciary doesn't give one enough chances to prove one's innocence?

Bajaj fans don't pretend that he is all good. We know he's a selfish person who takes advantage of situations. He doesn't do the right thing but does the right thing for himself. And we like him because deep down we all do things we're not proud of. We make mistakes. We're all made of both virtues and vices. Does that mean we don't deserve to be loved? I don't think so.

Originally posted by: aryapdane

@bold: There can be more meanings of the same word. Try to go beyond the first meaning given in the dictionary.

And I will help anyone I can till the point my life isn't threatened. If I have to choose between my life and a stranger's or someone who is not my dearly loved one, I will choose to save myself.

I'm not even saying that his action was right. What I am saying is that Bajaj isn't incapable of making a mistake. He makes mistakes. That's why he's not a saint. But it's how he feels about those mistakes. He regrets them. He is sorry for whatever happened with Anurag. Now please tell me.. if a person acknowledges his mistake and shows remorse for it, what should be your response? Will it be right to withhold forgiveness because he made the mistake in the first place? And if your answer is yes, then how is that moral? We can't just condemn people for their wrong actions. What kind of society would that be then?

I have gone through all meanings and none of it fits the bill of helping out a person you just might hv helped kill.

I think you should check the meanings too before calling anything you like as chivalry.

My proffession and my values teach me to help people out even when your own life is at stake. But then.....dts just how I hv been brought up and taught.

Do you know doctors , soldiers and many others risk their life day in and out just to save other's life ?? Do you think they should start self preservation and stop doing it too ?? Will the world be ok wid dt ?? They are human too you know and love their life ......but they still risk it just to help others.

And no I won't forgive someone for something like dis. Even if I pretend to do......I will never ever like or respect that person ever.

Now you tell me will you forgive a murderer if he has remorse later ?? And goes on to open an orphanage later in his life ??? Would you ??

Originally posted by: shin-chan

I thought will stay away. But this reply 🤣

Mujhse bhi raha nahin gaya 😆

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

Just to clarify my point ( because many here don't seem to get that ).

I'm not saying Bajaj didn't try to do things to rectify a "mistake" . But that doesn't relieve him off the thing he has done.

It doesn't matter what you do later on. It matters what you do in the moment. If he would hv done what was needed in the moment .......that would hv shown strength of character. What he does later is just compensation.

Just think would you forgive a murderer or a rapist when they repent their " mistakes " later ??? Because a lot of them do. After spending tym in jail a lot of them reform. But would you be able to call their previous act a " mistake "??

Then why are the scales different here ??? Just because Mr Bajaj is fictional he won't be compared on same standards ?? Or is it because a popular actor plays it ......that we give the character a clean chit for everything ??

Don't even try..you will be told.how in real world people get away with murders and lead a normal life 😆 sab chalta hai ..it's normal.

Firstly ekta maiyaa wont send bajaj to jail or show that he didnt do the accident..or there wasn't sufficient evidence against him ..prerna will become a bigger fan of her mr..all is well..open and shut case ..case bhi nai hai lol

Originally posted by: masdhu

Prerna, it is a great time to reveal all your truth behind the marriage with Mr Bajaj and your pregnancy. Ask Anurag to come back for shake of his child. Take advantage of this situation. Let Anurag to move after knowing the truth. Even after you could move with Mr. Bajaj by showering love for her Kuki.

The truth of your marriage is one of Anurag's mistakes. If he did not chase Ronith unnecessarily, if he did not enter Mr. Bajaj's chemical factory on that day, Your love is still with you. If Anurag could be able to think twice before enter the chemical factory, yes, these accidents, these arguments, these hatreds, this much of court cases were not in the KZK story.

A lil out of context I think.

Didn't understand who the sarcasm was for though.

Is raping somebody or doing an unintentional accident same thing ????......In this bajaj case, anurag is gonna be perfectly fine.....and bajaj did all the needful while in the other case, that girl will always fight that moment when she was raped. These two are very different situations. Though i dont say that basu clan need to forgive bajaj.....its their choice. But they should not throw prerna here and there when she is there to save their son.

Trust me this is the first show of ksg i am watching.....apart from this, all i have watched was alone where i dint liked him as an actor at all......soo my likeness for bajaj doesnt stems from that ksg is playing it (though i do feel ksg is best in kasauti right now acting wise)...its more of like i like to see characters who redeem to become someone what they were not at the beginning.....that growth...that change is attractive to me. I like to know what changed them to the worse to what changed them to good. Sometimes, some people bring the best in us out....i feel prerna does the same for bajaj.

Originally posted by: shakethebiscuit

Bless you for this topic.

I have been feeling the same...and to me this scenario is a direct representation of what is wrong with thinking process of our society. pls note bajaj dd say that when he saw mr basu he go angry and started speeding towards him. which is a deliberate act of harm towards the other person. He may have done good deeds and been a good man but this act is seperate to any of that.

The way prerna reacted was so unnatural, she wants anu to recover and mr bajaj what he did she classified it as galti se mistake ho gaya?

on Indian Roads we have 5.5lakh accidents every year with 1.5 lakh people dying every single year...how many irrensponsible drivers do you think suffer from guilt and guilt to what extent? If guilt was all we were to swear by the world wouldnt be the way it is.

This is a very Lame turn that the cv's have taken...and they dont know which turn to take here...and we all know. Mr bajaj will go to jail for once and be back, that aint justice.

main kuch zyada hi senti ho gayi...😭

That's the point I'm trying to make......only people hv decided to defend Mr Bajaj and his act and his wife one way or the other.

So many accidents happen and yes I agree that it may not always be the driver's fault. But the choice of helping or fleeing is his and his only. A head injury is so fatal people die instantly and here the person left widout thinking twice what would happen you the hurt person. And then his wife supports him and this is apparently praise worthy.

Where is the morality of these characters ????

And one last thing i would like to say......i dont feel any bajaj fan feels that bajaj was right to leave anurag dying......that was wrong......but what people are saying here is that because he came back and realized how wrong he was to leave him there......that's why we can say ....he is not inhumane.

Not saying that he dint risked anurag's life.....not saying that it was not a hit and run......i agree with all.....people just wish to give him a chance to redeem because he did mistake which he now acknowledge. He is not running away from it.....dont appreciate the dialougues he said about the case to mohini .....but yes do appreciate him for what he said regarding prerna to mohini.

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

Is raping somebody or doing an unintentional accident same thing ????......In this bajaj case, anurag is gonna be perfectly fine.....and bajaj did all the needful while in the other case, that girl will always fight that moment when she was raped. These two are very different situations. Though i dont say that basu clan need to forgive bajaj.....its their choice. But they should not throw prerna here and there when she is there to save their son.

Trust me this is the first show of ksg i am watching.....apart from this, all i have watched was alone where i dint liked him as an actor at all......soo my likeness for bajaj doesnt stems from that ksg is playing it (though i do feel ksg is best in kasauti right now acting wise)...its more of like i like to see characters who redeem to become someone what they were not at the beginning.....that growth...that change is attractive to me. I like to know what changed them to the worse to what changed them to good. Sometimes, some people bring the best in us out....i feel prerna does the same for bajaj.

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

Is raping somebody or doing an unintentional accident same thing ????......In this bajaj case, anurag is gonna be perfectly fine.....and bajaj did all the needful while in the other case, that girl will always fight that moment when she was raped. These two are very different situations. Though i dont say that basu clan need to forgive bajaj.....its their choice. But they should not throw prerna here and there when she is there to save their son.

Trust me this is the first show of ksg i am watching.....apart from this, all i have watched was alone where i dint liked him as an actor at all......soo my likeness for bajaj doesnt stems from that ksg is playing it (though i do feel ksg is best in kasauti right now acting wise)...its more of like i like to see characters who redeem to become someone what they were not at the beginning.....that growth...that change is attractive to me. I like to know what changed them to the worse to what changed them to good. Sometimes, some people bring the best in us out....i feel prerna does the same for bajaj.

@bold u shud surely try parth's prev show kyy.. Its available on voot..