Sept 11th: The guilt trap - Page 10

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

Babita bole toh... Dusro ko problem. To people like Lovely aur Kammo.

Babina na bole toh -- HS and Mini ko problem.

But yeah.. people have lot of expectation from her in general.

Veer Balika ki mummy hone ke side effects 😆....expectation hi expectation.

One day she will manage to live up to ppl’s expectation maybe. HS ko bahut ummeed hai 😆

Well that's what Micky was hinting at when he told her to stop pressuring Babes to speak up

Babes needs to do it herself

The only expectation I have from Babes is to act like Minnies mom and not her child

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I was just really beyond disgusted with Kammo today.

I know a lot of people in this forum can't stand Beeji and the Khuranas but Kammo's "gaaye ko phasaane ke liye bachhde ko phasaana padta hai" line is on another level of disgusting.....she cheapened HS-Mini ka relationship so horribly.....I can't look past it.

And yes, it's the truth of society.....women are socially conditioned to hinge their entire existence on making their marriages work no matter how pathetic their husbands.....koi aurat is trap se nikal aaye toh woh bhi bardaasht nahin....usko resent karo, keep trying to pull her down...malign her.

Yes, Babita had a fit of temper....she's always had a temper....and she struggles to react when she's faced with something unexpected....toh bol diya gusse mein.....again, after hearing such VILE things about herself and her daughter, expectation Babita se hi tha to sambhaalo it....Kammo Rani ke Pati Parmeshwar kuch bhi bol ke nikal lein......nothing Babita said can justify what Kammo said. Period.

I get that it's a set up for the next track but it was a really ghatiya insinuation without any justification.....first her husband insinuated that a minor Mini be married off and then his wife insinuated that HS only got close to Mini to phasaao her mom.

Mini had to be neglected to set up the track as well....I get that....but I hope the atmosphere of gloom doesn't take over....if this is a setup for her to officially be adopted as HS ki daughter, then that would be a good conclusion....I don't want this to become a long term thing of all three guilt tripping around each other thinking ki Mini is feeling awkward b/w them.

Micky deffo has been a great source of support for Mini no doubt....and it was nice to see the camera back.....hopefully Mini uses that and her diary to self-reflect.

But inspite of this she still judges women very easily. Have a lot of time guided her to see other side of the story and could change her view atleast a little bit. Her friend has stopped watching PB just because babita is marrying again instead of marrying off her daughter. Had to give some of my gyaan to her too😆

Originally posted by: divyadaya13

my MIL was in a bad marriage but never let anyone interfere no even her kids. She got chutkara only after his death. That too before i got married, i am not a person who will see injustice in front of my eyes and keep quiet. I would have certainly put that man in his place.

But inspite of this she still judges women very easily. Have a lot of time guided her to see other side of the story and could change her view atleast a little bit. Her friend has stopped watching PB just because babita is marrying again instead of marrying off her daughter. Had to give some of my gyaan to her too😆

Lol thank you for sharing this. This resonates so much. I know enough women who do the same and it depresses me to no end.

As women only, we are not holding ourselves to baseline self respect and are the first in line to tear down any woman for not hinging her identity and existence only on shaadi and pati 🤷‍♀️

The patriarchy runs super deep. Most women are completely indoctrinated and will never come out of this thinking 🤷‍♀️

Lol at people not watching cuz Babita is getting married instead of Mini 🙄....so they would be happier if Babita was remarrying Ashok instead?

Bacchon ki shaadi dekhni hai rather than emancipating a woman 🤦‍♀️

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

Babita said who invited this ghatiya insaan. So she was only talking about Khatri. And not Kammo.

To me it looked like, Babita until yesterday never replied to Khatri's taunts. Whenever Khatri crossed the line, Mini & HS stopped him. Until Babita spoke, Kammo was fine hearing everyone else. The moment Babita did, she flipped. She never expected Babes to respond. It was a shock for her & then what she did was 😵 But I think it was just to make her catalyst in putting those doubts in Mini's mind.

Babita actually used the words "ghatiya log" which could have been interpreted as referring to both Kammo and him.

Kammo wasn't fine hearing other people's taunts. She would get hurt every time they spoke ill about him but she kept chose to keep quiet because she knew that Khatri was wrong.

Personally, I feel like they didn't need to have Kammo say those things. Khatri could have said them and it would have had the same effect. What this did however, was complicate relationships more than they had to be. Or, this could be used a stepping stone to further solidify some already kachhe rishte.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Lol thank you for sharing this. This resonates so much. I know enough women who do the same and it depresses me to no end.

As women only, we are not holding ourselves to baseline self respect and are the first in line to tear down any woman for not hinging her identity and existence only on shaadi and pati 🤷‍♀️

The patriarchy runs super deep. Most women are completely indoctrinated and will never come out of this thinking 🤷‍♀️

Lol at people not watching cuz Babita is getting married instead of Mini 🙄....so they would be happier if Babita was remarrying Ashok instead?

Bacchon ki shaadi dekhni hai rather than emancipating a woman 🤦‍♀️

how can they expect mini to get married ? she is 17 & they are not living in a village or something where girls will get married at 18.

And what about hanuman calling himself minis dad. those who are narrow minded will have issue with that too ki he is not married to babita and calling himself minis dad. there will be another reference to their out of marriage physical closeness

Originally posted by: naq5

how can they expect mini to get married ? she is 17 & they are not living in a village or something where girls will get married at 18.

And what about hanuman calling himself minis dad. those who are narrow minded will have issue with that too ki he is not married to babita and calling himself minis dad. there will be another reference to their out of marriage physical closeness

I guess many girls do still get married at 18 in small towns 🙄....and ppl expect a mother to think about only her daughter’s wedding, no matter what the age 🤷‍♀️

Basic point is that women are conditioned to only feel secure in assigned roles....daughter ke baad direct wife ban jaao ASAP. Don’t ever think as a woman before an assigned role. Mother ho toh Bas mother raho...don’t ever think or feel like a woman or human being in general.

Logon ko bakwaas ka bahaana chahiye....they cant fathom pure relationships like HS-Mini existing in this world.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I guess many girls do still get married at 18 in small towns 🙄....and ppl expect a mother to think about only her daughter’s wedding, no matter what the age 🤷‍♀️

Basic point is that women are conditioned to only feel secure in assigned roles....daughter ke baad direct wife ban jaao ASAP. Don’t ever think as a woman before an assigned role. Mother ho toh Bas mother raho...don’t ever think or feel like a woman or human being in general.

Logon ko bakwaas ka bahaana chahiye....they cant fathom pure relationships like HS-Mini existing in this world.

I know what you are talking about ..

I was told to consider a boy at 18 .. and this is despite having lived in a metropolitan city .. So it doesnt matter where you live, its the mindset in which you have grown up in .. It is hard to break those shackles .. one has to rebel or find a supportive partner to achieve the status one being a woman, not just a mother, wife, daughter,daughter-in-law ..

Originally posted by: porankisrilata

What I feel is HS does understand Minni situation but now he is not doing anything at he don't want to mess this whole situation more... He knows that he is and will have to deal with two different types of kids one his daughter and the other his daughter mother... And dealing with them both at a time would be difficult for him.. May be that why he is calm now and will pakka give all that a closure once the marriage is done...

I also feel that way. He doesn't want things to get out of control and is just waiting for the wedding to be over, just eyeing the finish line to these festivities. Then he will get back into the HS mode we love and admire.

You're right, he has said on a couple of occasions that handling mother-daughter at the same time would be hard for him.

Originally posted by: tantal

Calming Babita down seems to be everyone's focus nowadays. The writers should stop showing Babita so emotionally fragile and caught up in her own issues that she can't see that Minnie is going through (or closing in very rapidly on) an emotional crisis. I would hate it if HS is the one to notice Minnie's current emotional turmoils and not Babita. She is her mom, they have been together through so much and Minnie has been shown to be so sensitive to the tiniest of tiny emotional troughs and peaks in Babita. If Babita fails to recognise the issues threatening to overpower Minnie's young mind but HS who has known her for a few months does it, it will not be a good light on Babita as a mother. If the tagline is that PS is a story of a mother and daughter then they should focus on these two during big crises.

Yes but Babita needs time to grow and adapt. To much new stuff in her life at this point too.

It doesn't matter which parent notices things first. They are a team and they need to support each other as co-parents and take the right decisions to help their daughter.

A major point of this marriage is for her to have a life partner who has her back as well as her daughter's so that she doesn't have to be stressed about Minnie 24/7.