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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: KamikazeKinght01

Yes saheba... Kyu nahi.

The best was just sharing her views about Bajaj... Everybody has their views na.

But, yeah we will be careful ofcours. As we have to be here together. Its better to discuss about the show altogether but AP & PRB just dont get along well just like A & R i guess... Buti liked what saps said.. Agar wo tino etne sal sath reh liye toh ham bhi reh lenge..

And dont worry.. If me/ we will start to bother you so much we will leave without even been asked. But i hope it wont happen.

Someone said, class of RB fans!! Yeah of course. :D

I am not saying don't discuss Rish, coz the story is such that Anu, PRe and Rish are inseparable 😆 I used love the camaraderie of Anu and Rish during Sneha's marriage track!

And there is no question of anyone leaving, please! It is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions

What I meant was that let's keep the bashing and negativity to the minimum and let us enjoy our fav show!

Edited by Manasi_16 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#62

how do we access the archived threads btw?😆

i hope Munni ji doesn't read this🤣

edited: now I know! ignore this.

Edited by saps.156 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: saps.156

yes it is definitey worth saving,,,i just keep on reposting it every now and then 😆

WIst has written this,,so the credit goes to her.

for my post its as follows: on PRB consummation scene. hope u can relive it:

Whenever I remember this scene it starts with the tune of "Thoda sambhaln de, toofan tham ne de sathiya...." playing in my mind as the wordings are so perfect for this scene. The mighty RB needing to pull up his sleeves and take a breath to dive in the deepest of the oceans. He is overwhelmed by all the emotions and just needs to take a pause for the reality to sink in and accomplish what he has waited his whole life for.

And Prerna was just perfect in the entire sequence. ST was simply astonishing! Her eyes throughout the scene were never lowered even for a split second unless they were closed while resting on his shoulder and at the last when she could no longer hold his gaze, she puts her hand covering his eyes. But she never lowered the gaze. I simply adored Prerna for that. That defined her boldness and want and need all at once. The full sequence it was her eyes which played the part without the words and it continued even the next day when AB comes in the morning. The way she looks up after adjusting her mangtika was mesmerizing. The expression in her eyes was full of contentment of the previous night, shyness of a new bride, the pride of finally being Mrs. Bajaj completely, and mad love for RB. She was just outstanding.

Her voice modulation while apologizing to RB's frame was so realistic and genuine. It was so sincere that it was actually cute to see the lipstick sorry on the wall and it was this sincerity which also touched RB and melted him away. I also liked the direction part to show ST's voice over while RB was reading his card and note. Happy Birthday dear husband. That was a first from Prerna.

And I loved RB's platonic face at the start. Because he didn't want his hopes up and then being crashed again. The way he smiles at that mirror sorry, it was all pure love in him and not even an ounce of lusty love. While he comforts P she just can't stop admiring RB for he says. She really appreciates him and how lucky she is to have a husband like RB bcoz instead of being angry at her he is wiping away her tears. But there is another thought process simultaneously in her, that she wants to accomplish the task at hand and not just be caught with words and hugs and lose the momentum. So she breaks the hug; and in a somewhat similar fashion to that Kali mandir aarti, but this time around when Prerna nods at him to follow her, RB just gives a quizzical look followed by a smile which meant why do I even bother to ask, I know I am going to follow you anywhere you lead me.

And every time P lead him to the next step. It was so good to see that she understood quite well that RB was not going to push her and she will have to take the initiative. It also showed her will to match his love for her in all ways.

Once the cake is cut and before the song, there is a look that passes between them. RB is wondering whether to get his hopes high and P gives him that nod. It was then that RB finally knows. Their entire dance sequence was full of eyes! How ST keeps her hand on RR's shoulder while dancing is a sight to behold. And the perfect flashback of that evening when he kissed her hand and the way she looks (that will be another post). The BG score was so perfect!. Their hands entwined, gaze locked. The way RB expressed that this was the moment he was waiting for all these years and P expressing that she understood that wait but now she is here and not going anywhere. She is all his forever and this is the moment his dream comes true. RR-ST were just too perfect.

The mangtika was so significant for PRB. She hated it when AB gave but she cherished it when RB gave it to her. That was so remarkable and says it all pretty much. It also held its significance in the years to come. She just worshipped RB so to say. Loved the way he carried her and even then how she wraps her hands around his neck. ( Again notice how she wraps her hand around AB and how she does with RB in Panchmeshwar during PRB fight track when they save her from fire. Vast difference.) Given the time era, it was a bold scene but without any vulgarity at all since the story was built up so strong. And next morning the way she closes in and looks at RB sleeping was so satisfactory. She cherished her previous night and was glad that he was her man now. It was full of harmony and bliss.

And so glad cissy's calls were unattended. Again that was symbolic, in favor of PRB.

BTW, she always used to forget RB's birthdays.smiley15 The look on her face when she realizes that she has once again forgotten was priceless. But how she made up for it was a treat for everyone!

I am sorry to interupt here you guys...

She hated it when AB gave that to her.. But....... (Jo bhi apne likha)

They wanted to establish the whole mangtika thing as PRB THING thats why they have shown it. But She hated when AB brought that.. Sorry, it wasnt the message.. She hated magtika (she didn’t hate bcoz AB brought that). Sorry, hate is not the perfect word... You can use she didn’t like mangtika that much. When Anu said, 'sorry I forgot that I am talking to Mrs Bajaj'.. That banged my 12 years old heart... You missed the hidden meaning i guess. She liked it as Mrs Bajaj.. AAs RB's wife, as Prerna bajaj... She loved that because Rishab loved that. She didn’t love that as Prerna... And she couldn’t even say that... Its beautiful and romantic to do things for your hubby... But not every relationship provide you with the space of rejecting the things you dont like. bajaj would have been hurt like a teenage boy if she had rejected that. I am not saying prerna accepted that half heartedly.. She accepted it with all love and all. But some people will prefer to live with their own choices.

Sorry for balbbing so much... But i always wanted to present my views on this mangtika thing.

And yeah, Prerna was bolder than Bajaj in thay scene.. I liked that..

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Posted: 6 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Manasi_16

Hayeeeeeee his smile makes me go weak in the knees even today

It should be a crime to look so handsome, debonair and sexy❤️

u bet! RR was just made for RB. his every minutest action was so much in character. with class and elegance.

the way he used to hold his glass, or the way he would wear his coat, or just pocket his phone, or drive the car, his walk, his run, the way he would pocket his hands, the way he used to enter and exit the Basu house, the ay he used to lean on the car, the way he carried his jacket on hi arms and much more thank I can remember

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manasi_16

I am not saying don't discuss Rish, coz the story is such that Anu, PRe and Rish are inseparable 😆 I used love the camaraderie of Anu and Prerna during Sneha's marriage track!

And there is no question of anyone leaving, please! It is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions

What I meant was that let's keep the bashing and negativity to the minimum and let us enjoy our fav show!

Yep ofcourse. We will. One may have diff pov on same scene... We can discuss that with respect righ? I mean we @re not teenage to fight for OUR crushes!!

This will be fun.. Kzk1 used to have loads o* arguements... But no arguements worked there i noticed... No one can change pov of others or themselve.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: saps.156

u bet! RR was just made for RB. his every minutest action was so much in character. with class and elegance.

the way he used to hold his glass, or the way he would wear his coat, or just pocket his phone, or drive the car, his walk, his run, the way he would pocket his hands, the way he used to enter and exit the Basu house, the ay he used to lean on the car, the way he carried his jacket on hi arms and much more thank I can remember

Omg! So much love!!! Ah.. So exotic :p :p celebrity crazyness haan.. Hope you can meet him one day.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: KamikazeKinght01

Omg! So much love!!! Ah.. So exotic :p :p celebrity crazyness haan.. Hope you can meet him one day.

thanks but no thanks.. I do not have any such wishes. rest u can call it whatever u want to as far as the show is concerned but kindly do not go personal. u r not the correct person to decide whether I am a celebrity crazy person or not.

repeating again, u can keep quoting my posts as far as it's concerned with the show. Do not go personal.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: saps.156

for my post its as follows: on PRB consummation scene. hope u can relive it:

Whenever I remember this scene it starts with the tune of "Thoda sambhaln de, toofan tham ne de sathiya...." playing in my mind as the wordings are so perfect for this scene. The mighty RB needing to pull up his sleeves and take a breath to dive in the deepest of the oceans. He is overwhelmed by all the emotions and just needs to take a pause for the reality to sink in and accomplish what he has waited his whole life for.

And Prerna was just perfect in the entire sequence. ST was simply astonishing! Her eyes throughout the scene were never lowered even for a split second unless they were closed while resting on his shoulder and at the last when she could no longer hold his gaze, she puts her hand covering his eyes. But she never lowered the gaze. I simply adored Prerna for that. That defined her boldness and want and need all at once. The full sequence it was her eyes which played the part without the words and it continued even the next day when AB comes in the morning. The way she looks up after adjusting her mangtika was mesmerizing. The expression in her eyes was full of contentment of the previous night, shyness of a new bride, the pride of finally being Mrs. Bajaj completely, and mad love for RB. She was just outstanding.

Her voice modulation while apologizing to RB's frame was so realistic and genuine. It was so sincere that it was actually cute to see the lipstick sorry on the wall and it was this sincerity which also touched RB and melted him away. I also liked the direction part to show ST's voice over while RB was reading his card and note. Happy Birthday dear husband. That was a first from Prerna.

And I loved RB's platonic face at the start. Because he didn't want his hopes up and then being crashed again. The way he smiles at that mirror sorry, it was all pure love in him and not even an ounce of lusty love. While he comforts P she just can't stop admiring RB for he says. She really appreciates him and how lucky she is to have a husband like RB bcoz instead of being angry at her he is wiping away her tears. But there is another thought process simultaneously in her, that she wants to accomplish the task at hand and not just be caught with words and hugs and lose the momentum. So she breaks the hug; and in a somewhat similar fashion to that Kali mandir aarti, but this time around when Prerna nods at him to follow her, RB just gives a quizzical look followed by a smile which meant why do I even bother to ask, I know I am going to follow you anywhere you lead me.

And every time P lead him to the next step. It was so good to see that she understood quite well that RB was not going to push her and she will have to take the initiative. It also showed her will to match his love for her in all ways.

Once the cake is cut and before the song, there is a look that passes between them. RB is wondering whether to get his hopes high and P gives him that nod. It was then that RB finally knows. Their entire dance sequence was full of eyes! How ST keeps her hand on RR's shoulder while dancing is a sight to behold. And the perfect flashback of that evening when he kissed her hand and the way she looks (that will be another post). The BG score was so perfect!. Their hands entwined, gaze locked. The way RB expressed that this was the moment he was waiting for all these years and P expressing that she understood that wait but now she is here and not going anywhere. She is all his forever and this is the moment his dream comes true. RR-ST were just too perfect.

The mangtika was so significant for PRB. She hated it when AB gave but she cherished it when RB gave it to her. That was so remarkable and says it all pretty much. It also held its significance in the years to come. She just worshipped RB so to say. Loved the way he carried her and even then how she wraps her hands around his neck. ( Again notice how she wraps her hand around AB and how she does with RB in Panchmeshwar during PRB fight track when they save her from fire. Vast difference.) Given the time era, it was a bold scene but without any vulgarity at all since the story was built up so strong. And next morning the way she closes in and looks at RB sleeping was so satisfactory. She cherished her previous night and was glad that he was her man now. It was full of harmony and bliss.

And so glad cissy's calls were unattended. Again that was symbolic, in favor of PRB.

BTW, she always used to forget RB's birthdays.smiley15 The look on her face when she realizes that she has once again forgotten was priceless. But how she made up for it was a treat for everyone!

How do you'll do it...how do you get just the perfect words to express?!?!?! This is so very beautiful

I now have to go back n see this again!!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: The_Best

I used to use VPN too, but my sister and I could use it only for few days. So I just registered for hotstar as it was convenient and I was able to afford. My laptop isn’t working properly too these days so it’s hard to use VPN through mobile. It’s headache. Plus my sister loves all old shows and we all love KZK. We used to watch lots of shows, but my most fav and first was KZK. I used to love Karan-Nandini too, but then I wasn’t fan of Kyunki much. I just used to love Karan-Nandini. So it was KZK for me as I used to love not just the main couple just, but all the characters and storylines too except Bajaj. I am glad the VPN is working for you. Paying for hotstar is waste of money if you can watch through vpn. We registered because vpn wasn’t working on our cell phones

Yeah I understand without Bajaj, there wouldn’t be the longing of AP. But I don’t hate Bajaj just because he was evil. Komo was evil too but I liked her and especially Aparna whom I loved a lot. She was my fav. The reason I hate Bajaj because he was glorified as saint despite being evil which was such a bad message. I dislike such hypocrite and fake people whether in shows or in real life. If Bajaj was always shown as evil he was and not glorified, I wouldn’t have problem with him and would’ve loved him. I would have also loved him if he truly was shown changed to be a better human as I love such characters from being bad to good and his journey was shown But Bajaj was none of that. Instead he was never exposed for his crimes and evils and just glorified and whitewashed like we should forget and now accept this fake saint. If he was truly a good human and changed, the first thing he would’ve done was to tell his truth to everyone, ask for forgiveness from his victims and gone away from their lives to not bother them again unless he was stopped and they themselves wanted him and so on. But instead he was whitewashed with no journey, no guilt and nothing and just became fake saint just because now he apparently loved Prena and was still always insecure of AP all his life as if Anurag is trying to separate him and Pre when he was the third wheel between them all their lives. That all was such a bad message. Such dangerous and fake people are in real life too who became this fake person because now they have a motive to remain fake good. With or without Anupre, I would’ve hated him as it wasn’t about them. Such fake people irritate most people and can’t be liked other than by some. I do like Ronit though. He is a good actor. Not his fault if Bajaj was this way.

When I started watching it the first time, Prena was already with Bajaj. And it was that Saving Sneha track going on. I was very small like 6-7 likely. So I never really saw any happy AP scenes and them being together. I kept waiting and waiting till them end for them to be together. Then I came to US and later found out about the ending. But I was happy that they finally did get reunited forever for eternity as physical life is temporary. At least, Ekta got some sanity towards the end. But she had to as many were watching in the hopes of AP being reunited from what I have heard. So that’s why I am in confused state if I should start watching the show or not as I want to badly, but at the same time they are rarely together in the show and will be together in the end :( I just also wish Cezzane and Shweta’s relations were good so we could’ve gotten many of their romantic scenes. But then at the same time those times almost all Ekta young romantic shows used to have lead separation through the whole show and would get united in the end only. KTH, KYPH, Etc all of them were the same way with full on separation, marrying and sleeping with others and full on pain. So I doubt KZK would’ve been different even if the lead had good relation off screen. Ekta is really a sadist seriously when it comes to love couples. She didn’t use to make the leads together at all and make them get married to others and many times wouldn’t give happy ending to the couple either. At least AP got happy end. Others didn’t even get that.

I used to love all Anupre romantic scenes in Flashbacks ❤️❤️❤️ AP had such beautiful chemistry. They had the most natural and beautiful chemistry. No wonder the whole nation was crazy for them and not just in India but in Pakistan too and later in Afghanistan too and who knows how many countries. You know In Pakistan KZK/AP had a huge craze. Everyone used to wait for 8 pm to watch KZK. It was discussed everywhere which I didn’t see any other show being discussed ever like that before. Especially that Aparna trying to kill Anu was shocking and being discuss in school and everywhere. I SO SO MISS THOSE TIMES. SUCH NOSTALGIA I Have. Those times were something else :(

My fav scenes of their are from their marriage. Those happy scenes of theirs. But I am watching it from hotstar from the beginning, so I think I will many of their fav scenes when they were single too. I do find their love story very realistic as that’s how most true loves are especially soulmate relations I heard. Soulmates aren’t suppose to be together. Only few are lucky to be together but most end up being separated if you know in spiritual side of searching about soulmate. Not the way Hollywood/Bollywood, Etc give the fake image and whole stereotypes to soulmate relations like how they are so easy and everything will be all la la la land. Soulmate relations are supposed to be the most painful and most of them lead to separation and don’t get reunited even if they love each other. So in the case, Ekta was right even though i am sure she mostly no idea that it was accurate portrayal of soulmate mostly except with the harsh words of Prena to Anurag sometimes and also Anurag toward Prena sometimes with trust issues as soulmates mostly do have trust on each other.

Yes I wish many AP fans were active. But they aren’t. The last thread of this thread was made by big AP fan. Lol, he too watched KZK till the end in the hope of seeing AP getting reunited at last as a child. 😂 There are many AP fans on other sites I have seen though and on IF some I know are in BW forum. Most of them aren’t active here though as they don’t like this season:(


P.S - sorry for the long essay. I either don’t write much or if I do, I end up writing long essays mostly.

Picking up from where I have left,

So u can understand now that why bajaj never aplogized.. He was always scared to lose Prerna n he paid a lot to gain Prerna in his life.

Although i wanted the truth to be published and then solved. But you know what for Anu it never mattered who planted the plot.. He just knew he had lost her and had hurt her terribly. It was his fault.. Its all mattered to him.

I liked Anu better than Bajaj beacuse Anu was always guilt about his mistakes where bajaj never even looked at his karma as bad enough. He was changed of course.. But not changed enough to feel guilt over the entire disgracing of Prerna.

Second, yes at one point bajaj too wanted Pr3 to go to Anurag.. But may i add, that was so half hearted. If he really wanted he would have succeeded... But knowing that she had started to fall for him (after so many effort) it was hard to let her go.

He SHOULD have told her about madhvi.. I am sure she would have been heart broken but she wont just leave him. So yeah, Bajaj always had Trust issues with Prerna. Preena was nothing but loyal to Bajaj.. But bajaj always had trust issues. And as you have mentioned soulmates dont have trust issue... So PreBaj weren’t soulmate either... :p :p :p

The whole purpose of the show was showing diff shades of love... Ekta was successful. Prerna was so much loyal to Bajaj (Anu was also so annoyingly loyal to preBaj- annoyingly coz he used to interfere unnecessarily sometime) n yet her bond with Anu bcoz of their children was so prominenet. She always reffered Anu as Prem's father... And even in the hight of hatress she at kolkata jad sushed Sneha for disrespecting Anu, 'wo tunhare pita hain toh hain'. That lady has some style. and also the bravest of heart to accept the things the way they were, and thats too so effortlessly.

About Cez nad Shweta's personal relationshi. It makes me laugh everytime people say bcoz of their relations they were relunctant to share screen. First, ekta wouldn’t have brought that crap. Second, theh were professionals.. always respected their on sceren relations.. Like for Cez Swheta was best for Prerna... N for Shweta, i dont know i had never hard her saying she had orob shooting with him. In fact they were both always clear that they never had any probs while shooting, even romantic scenes too. Remember that amnesia track.. They had some intimate scenes... Some People say they looked thanda... But guys, the scenes were meant to be thanda na :p woth no romantic feelings from cez side. He had nailed it in those scene. One of my junior online frirnd who never had seen a single epi of kzk wanted to surprise me with AnuPre edited pics.. She sent me the one from amnesia track (Prerna hugging Anu in Panchmeshwa hotel and t!ey had arguement over sampada).. She said she was confused with the pic as i had said her AnuPre loved each other very much but the pic was like Anu was hugging someone's else wife. :p :p so correct she wa#.

Third, the director of their show even said that he never had any probs getting the scene done by them. So people who say ekta changed the storyline for cez- shweta's bittee relationship either dont know Ekta or Cez_shweta's professionalism. Unlike today the actor actress used to very greatful to the production house for their break. The story line was always meant that way.

About AP scenes.. Its easy to say which scenes i didnt like.. As they are very less... Or i used to like them even if they used to stand side by side. :p :p umm, i never enjoyed their hatred.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: saps.156

u bet! RR was just made for RB. his every minutest action was so much in character. with class and elegance.

the way he used to hold his glass, or the way he would wear his coat, or just pocket his phone, or drive the car, his walk, his run, the way he would pocket his hands, the way he used to enter and exit the Basu house, the ay he used to lean on the car, the way he carried his jacket on hi arms and much more thank I can remember

RR just oozes class and style, there is just no one like him. And the ease with which he carries himself, if cannot be taught...it.just has to be natural

The run...oh the run...my brain stopped functioning after I read this 😳

That run he makes to save Prem from the truck (post 5 year leap) I dont know how many times I must have seen that

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