Pataila Babes for me

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hello All,

I know many ppl here are in love with the love story and current set of episodes are thus what many of u wanted. I also am liking them but my question Is ‘is this all u wanted to see’...please do not misunderstand as usually few of u feel m against the love story but I am not...why would I be ...why would anyone be...as ladies, our feelings are mutual aren’t they...my only point is ....is a love story the only thing u want to see...did u start seeing PBS only for that ...as 80% of our serials either focus on love or family dramas ...

As I started watching PBS because found it different maybe atleast few of u did for the same reason ...My interest was the journey of a lady and her daughter towards stardom...how they face obstacles to become the biggest food house ...the entire journey ...struggle...obstacles....meeting someone whether HS or anyone else in this path ...where while Babita is not looking out for love she meets someone and realises that she really loves him and needs him in this journey...but that is not the main story but a part & a very integral part of the main story...but the story revolves around Mini Babita ...change in their personalities...how they evolve from what they were to what they become...and a wonderful restaurant or the biggest PBS food house but not the way shown now ...easily achieved one with nothing really done...also wanted all characters intact with their stories...not possibly Ashok Meeta failed story as if a divorce happens the other marriage does not necessarily have to fail...while def it is condemned and the worst to happen for a lady and also we hate the other lady...but their journey can be their’s ..they might live with guilt but not necessary it has to fail but yes still feel can be shown as failed to set an example for society..so that is fine ...but atleast they exist....

What I saw actually ...absolutely no journey for Babita Mini...easily achieved stardom (though that part has been stopped right now but might continue in future as already interviews modelling had started) There was absolutely no struggle or path set. They just become famous overnight...start getting orders God knows how...only two three ppl run the show...with no issues....keep getting orders and big orders aswell...life becomes all easy all set...The episode where chef Vikas Khanna praises PBS for her cutlet had shown me atleast a different story. I expected PBS to start a small food shop with all struggles of how she drives it ...maintains it ...how small things become an issue...how there are obstacles which ppl face in real time....there is so much struggle while running a new joint...v know so many ppl who get into a business and fail...and these ppl are good financially..in this case Babita is a small town ‘not so confident lady’ plus there is a big financial struggle plus there is people struggle (Khatri kinds all around) how good it would have been to see her journey....how she achieves it all...then slowly she get’s ppl once it starts working...she starts getting small orders then big...ppl realise her worth ...thn she makes a small name for herself ...and the journey towards stardom continues ...it never happened....rather she got it all very easily...

maybe thus I was disappointed with the story line at the start aswell as the fact that all characters path was cut down ...plot was changed...characters story was cut short...and what was kept was deliberate ...Babita Mini and HS with only those characters who supported their relationship...now it has become a complete love story ..till the time they showed Mini HS tussel and Babita exploring her feelings is ok ..really liked few of the episodes ...evn mayb the story line now where Mini is trying to get both of them together is good....

but what next ...is this it ...was it all abt the love story ....was this what PBS is ..later they might show how Babita flourishes but is that real as I never saw her struggle ..

were u ppl only wanting to see this love story nothing else......right now it has transformed in One ...and have nothing against it so pls do not judge or misinterprete...usually when someone has views other than max views ppl don’t like to even hear him/her but that should not be the case. Also feel some might agree to my views but don’t want to comment as when it is 4 against 10 views ppl usually want to keep quiet since there are strong reactions. But wanted to put this down...Seriously was not for this PBS...as it is not Babita Hanuman SINGH but Pataila Babes which for many had a different expectation...evn whn Mini’s depression episode was telecast I had really loved it as they had shown the reality ...life is not so simple for a 15 year old having gone thru so much and though she shows she is strong actually how it impacts her was well shown...but these episodes were cut short...Mita also was a nice character which was axed ...overall everything was done to convert a nice different story into a complete love story ...guys do enjoy it....again putting down have nothing against it and was never and am not against the love story ...but if u can think abt this perspective do think over...if u can’t it is ok ....not necessary that you should agree 🙂 but don’t mind me having this view ....hopefully u might understand that many here have this view...it is just not being put forth ....U might respond or u might not but wanted u to see this ....

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Cannot disagree with the points you have put forth and reasons for the same. What i feel is, makers have introduced such a strong character as hs. Makers have brought in the story with a misssion and trying to make people with closed mindset to open up. Young audience as well as old like to see love angles. For reaching out to many audience this was needed.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyadaya13

Cannot disagree with the points you have put forth and reasons for the same. What i feel is, makers have introduced such a strong character as hs. Makers have brought in the story with a misssion and trying to make people with closed mindset to open up. Young audience as well as old like to see love angles. For reaching out to many audience this was needed.

Hmmm maybe ...mayb they introduced HS and thn when ppl started showing interest in the love story just thought of making it a love story ....

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Point of bringing up HS is also making a statement that women who have gone through bad marriage or have lost their partners can again choose to embrace romantic relationship again in their lives . It's just not a love story but it's path to find love again for Babita and how her little girl will help her find that courage to embrace it. Why do we need to look this as typical romance.. here a woman is exploring her feelings again after they were brutally being crushed .. I have a friend who had gone thru a bad relationship and was in a mess after it.. yes it was not marriage but a relationship nevertheless ..she found one person who helped her in those vulnerable times and yes the person was also going thru breakup so yes two broken ppl found each other healing themselves along the path. It's a way of giving hope and yes I think it had to be part of this journey in a strong way .. considering Babita's belief in her marriage in start of show... Not everything is about money and success. It can be about emotional growth.. She has finally the Right to choose a man for her when her previous marriage had never given..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hey Reshmi, (that's your name I guess)

I think you've posted about this topic before also once...

Like is love story is what everyone wants? Definitely not. I'd have been perfectly happy if there wasn't a love story between HS and Babita. Just mutual friendship would have been enough and some good tracks surrounding them.

But our desi soaps can't do without love stories for a reason, unfortunately.

Can't be general about others, but if I speak for myself, every show I have watched, I'd like certain male and female characters friendship and would be hoping against hope that they should never bring a love angle between them and let them stay friends forever.

Especially one pair i was so pissed when they brought the love angle which I can remember now is Star Plus Manmarziyaan's Sam and Neil, as I've discussed in this very forum a few months ago. But our soap writers never let them be.

They showed an absolutely amazing guy like HS , we all start liking him immediately. And then they show those characters fall in love with FLs at some point of the story. Owing to the love we have for that adorable male characters, the viewers are like forced to hope for a love story rather a heartbreak for them... And when the track is developed, it's impossible not to enjoy the romance....

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: riti4u

Point of bringing up HS is also making a statement that women who have gone through bad marriage or have lost their partners can again choose to embrace romantic relationship again in their lives . It's just not a love story but it's path to find love again for Babita and how her little girl will help her find that courage to embrace it. Why do we need to look this as typical romance.. here a woman is exploring her feelings again after they were brutally being crushed .. I have a friend who had gone thru a bad relationship and was in a mess after it.. yes it was not marriage but a relationship nevertheless ..she found one person who helped her in those vulnerable times and yes the person was also going thru breakup so yes two broken ppl found each other healing themselves along the path. It's a way of giving hope and yes I think it had to be part of this journey in a strong way .. considering Babita's belief in her marriage in start of show... Not everything is about money and success. It can be about emotional growth.. She has finally the Right to choose a man for her when her previous marriage had never given..

You explained it beautifully... Couldn't have said it any better 👍🏼

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Posted: 6 years ago
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@Sudharies Thanks dear , I also agree with you on point when you have such an amazing Male lead , we do not mind a love story .. this HS wud have been written by woman I believe coz he is just so perfect ;)

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Posted: 6 years ago
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The love story was always meant to happen. The signs have been there from the beginning. For that matter, you could also say that they didn't have to bring up the father-daughter angle either, but it was also always planned. If nothing else, the last 2-3 episodes proved that they had sowed those seeds within the first couple of weeks after HS entered the show.

I agree with those who say it could have been left as a friendship with more focus on the PB path to success, as well as with those who don't mind a love story. However, I do not really consider this to be a love story in the traditional sense. To me this is a story of love.

In terms of human relationships, it's about the love between mother and daughter, Dadu-Beeji and their (selfish) love for their kids, parent-child bond between HS and Minnie or Naeem Bi and HS, HS and Lala as brothers.

We also see the love that Babita has for cooking and now for her business, Minnie's love for travel photography (though they haven't explored it yet but will in future I'm sure), HS' love for his work and his patriotism, etc.

The Hanita love story serves to show:

  1. That women have the right to choose to live independently and with dignity, without the need for a life partner. If they have one it's because they want him, and not because they need him for material purposes, rather for emotional support (as HS said the other day).
  2. That there are men in the world who desire divorced women, even those with kids, for their personalities and not just beauty or wealth, so that women remain open to remarrying and do not despair that they will never be accepted by another man because they are divorced, with kids.
  3. That there are children who love their mothers but some respond differently to abusive fathers. What stays with them and how they evolve without letting their hearts become so bitter that they cannot spread or feel love as adults makes for interesting perspectives.
  4. That love is not only about romance or about blood ties but that bonds that form during trying times are lasting, and that women who do not get support from family members should be optimistic that there are people like HS and Naeem Bi out there who will stand by them without any selfish reasons. (I had the same experience myself with rock-solid friends who held my hand as I weathered storms, when my family was not there for me).


@Reshmi.parekh78, thank you for voicing your opinion, dear. That's what this forum is for. I totally understand your point of view as do others, but what made me feel bad was that you sounded extra cautious and a tad apologetic for airing your thoughts. Please don't feel that way. We won't judge you for your perspective, rather we love hearing from everyone because brilliant shows like this make us question social norms and the behavior of characters. This should be a space where you are comfortable to speak up without worrying about backlash, especially considering you have been respectful and polite. Keep your posts coming! 🤗

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Originally posted by: riti4u

Point of bringing up HS is also making a statement that women who have gone through bad marriage or have lost their partners can again choose to embrace romantic relationship again in their lives . It's just not a love story but it's path to find love again for Babita and how her little girl will help her find that courage to embrace it. Why do we need to look this as typical romance.. here a woman is exploring her feelings again after they were brutally being crushed .. I have a friend who had gone thru a bad relationship and was in a mess after it.. yes it was not marriage but a relationship nevertheless ..she found one person who helped her in those vulnerable times and yes the person was also going thru breakup so yes two broken ppl found each other healing themselves along the path. It's a way of giving hope and yes I think it had to be part of this journey in a strong way .. considering Babita's belief in her marriage in start of show... Not everything is about money and success. It can be about emotional growth.. She has finally the Right to choose a man for her when her previous marriage had never given..

Yes this aspect is important no doubt. And no even I did not talk abt money and success. It was only because Babita was shown to be very scared of anything and everything, not at all confident...completely ignorant of what she could achieve on her own, not someone to value her own strengths or to value her own self and completely dependent...like many ladies are..many time’s housewives do a lot but the effort goes unnoticed...husband feels that a lady at home does nothing .....ideally they do a lot ...in this case once she was on her own not by choice but circumstances...this path/journey I felt would strongly put forth how strong a person she is, how good and talented she is which was never explored before as she was this typical house wife for others..The whole journey was also necessary to make her confident and independent, to make her belief that she is a wonderful personality and very strong who could stand for herself and others aswell as carve her own niche ....like few scenes where she learns karate or where she has her own eatery in an exhibition which becomes famous overnight...or where she starts learning the Scooty all I felt were powerful scenes...also extremely important..to make her fearless...generally (in real life) u might just start working and that is enough but thus being a serial they get a chance to show a larger than life picture so usually can go all the way making her a star ...which also sets up a good example to all those who have been thru a lot ....since they are quite motivated and encouraged to take all those small steps in their life ....so it was not abt success and money ...though with the stardom that comes along with....so my thought was also to set a example for divorces or single mothers ....as such stories motivate them ....helps thm Take those steps which they might have refrained from taking....and yes marriage also is one more aspect of it ...they should get married if they find a person they want to marry ...so both are important elements

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: riti4u

@Sudharies Thanks dear , I also agree with you on point when you have such an amazing Male lead , we do not mind a love story .. this HS wud have been written by woman I believe coz he is just so perfect ;)

i like hs character. He is neither overtly mahaan nor is he grey. And this is how an indiviual should be, whether male or female. No one is perfect. Even hs is not perfect but his positive traits are so many that there is no place for negative things to survive. He is what he is coz he took positives from life. His mothers suffering and wifes death too are responsible for what he is today.hs is like the sutradhar of the show. And babita is the amalgamation of what many women go through in life. Now they are exploring the remarriage of divorced women if they find the right guy then there is nothing wrong on moving forward in life and also a lesson for kids to be supportive and respecting their parents choices. hs fits the bill perfectly of that kind of guy with whom you can move on.

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