Writers bakwas now backtracking..

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Posted: 7 years ago
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So the leap brought us a whatever marriage of abhi and the naagin...a grand anniversary party..abhi hate talk against pragya and praise for tanu...but what the writers did not expect to an enormous extent was the backlash from viewers who berated and blasted them for this development...now the backtracking has started...we are now getting the fake party that disha talked about..purab saying tanu forced abhi into this arrangement that we are yet to see what she is holding against him...we saw from the beginning the relationship of king and pragya...but they wanted to see us guessing i believe about tanu and abhi marriage..but no one seems to be interested...they did not expect that fans would bring down the character of the main lead as they did...these writers give the impression that they are truly amateurs..only able to continue a series with bringing in the same plot and recycling stories from one soap to another...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes ann, the writers forgot that the pulse of KKB was the characters of Abhi and Pragya, Abhi though starting as an arrogant, money minded rockstar turning into a person craving for love and who had stood for what is right from the beginning and always helping others in needy, and Pragya though not being able to plan sensibly had always been the warm hearted, kind, generous, selfless person she was from the beginning and their love for each other standing against all odds was what was unique in this creation. But, to shake the foundation of Abhigya, by completely destroying the good nature of Abhi has been the most blunderous mistake the writers could ever make. Now, whatever they do to set it right, the damage has been done, fans are not getting that connect between Abhigya, how can they when the basic foundation of love itself has been made a mockery. It is like whatever happened we knew that they loved each other unconditionally but now it seems it was all one sided, there was no love on Abhi's side at all, it was more of him and his family, he not thinking of Pragya as equally important as Dadi, him all of a sudden turning hateful towards Pragya in spite of him knowing that she will never dream of hurting Dadi and that she did so much for her happiness, even tolerated her sister's death due to her Mogambo role and left the house on Abhi's ML just because Dadi told her so, has completely ruined Abhi's character and making Tanu his wife even though it might it is an eyewash but the pubic see them as a couple, Abhi has lost his sense of right and wrong and the fact that it is 7 years is only angering the fans more. He has his whole family and money behind him but Pragya, a lonely female, very depressed by Dadi's death and Abhi's hate and further knowing about her pregnancy, what would have been her mental toil. Feel, she could have been a single mother taking up her professor's job and bringing up Kiara alone, but the writers wanted to spice up with King, so have tagged him in but that is also a big blunder since I see many routing for Pragya/King combination since they also seem to have good chemistry.
All I want is for Pragya to make Abhi see senses but never give in, help him out if he is in trouble which he will be going by the greediness of Taalya and then when he is out of trouble, just giving him back for all that he had told during Dadi's death and returning back to London with dignity. Let him realize and repent but he should know the complete truth of Taalya in and out and anyways that will be the end of KKB and we can all set our chaotic mind at rest after that.

As a true Tisha/Abhigya fan, I would never dream of giving this opinion but the writers have pushed me to this. I would always want Shabir and Sriti to be thought with love and fondness for their role as Abhi and Pragya, but it is the writers who have marred Abhi's character so and created this blemish on Shabir indirectly. Hope, they do some miracle and turn this all around completely.





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Posted: 7 years ago
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Sorry ann if I went too much into my ramblings and diverted from your topic but still cannot get over this leap and separation whatever might be the magic of Kiara and King and grandeur dressings and scenes.
And of note, Shabir and Sriti will always hold a very special place in my heart as they would in others, it is just that I do not want all their hard work in portraying Abhigya go a waste. It will be a fitting tribute if the characters they played also stay true in our hearts.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@sugummar no you have not gone off topic...but the writers have certainly eff up abhi's character in this so called leap...first of all the reason for pragya being driven away in this nasty manner was not needed at all...killing dadi was another not needed drama...unless of course the actress wanted to leave...now abhi is having flashbacks that we have not seen before...so is it that she will have to come back periodically for 'flashbacks'...tanu's character coming back and ruling the roost in the new mm was the utmost disgusting and eff up factor that has gotten me and i know a lot of other viewers totally out of tune with that part of kkb...i understand to some extend pragyas 'relationship' with king he needs his image with a wife and child to keep his career clean..and pragya needed a father figure in the name of king for kiara...she calls him dada not daddy or dad...the aspect of abhi being so in love with pragya and turning into i hate her i hate her...killed the essence of the love story of abhi and pragya...i believe that the writers have now realised what arseness they did and now the retracting has started..is it too late..i really hope not...because after all that we have been rooting for the past four years no one wants this love story to be effed up as it already has been...now we are to wait for the reason for tanu and alia ruling the roost in mm...there can be none to show why they have been given the rule...it just does not make any sense and any justification...tanus character has not been a relevant factor in kkb for a very long time...it seems that the writers have something being held over their heads to make this character be relevant for them in the show..i read where some one said that whenever tanu is shown the trps go up...i beg to differ...no it is not her character...we can only hope that the writers be in time in trying to right the shit that they have done and bring the character of abhi back to a respective position and stop this arseness.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Spoilers galore... read one today which says Tanu may be first one to have faceoff with Pragya afte hearing from Swarna Dadi athat she is back and Tanu will be scared her past may come out...😆


What past to be scared?😕 except Tanu joining hands with Simonica before Dadi's death, Abhi knows in and out all her evil deeds that she had done along with Aliya, Nikhil & Raj in past, he knows her greed, hatred, fakeness and cheap mentality. Otherwise even if he missed knowing some of her deeds, Purab knows lot more than Abhi about Tanu to keep him informed..


But still in post leap showing in a mad rush to viewers that Abhi comfortably has forgotten every damn thing of past and gave a cheap criminal 7 yrs of glorious life along with wife tag in his house amid celebrations that too after knowing pretty well how much his Dadi despised Tanu's presence and did everything in world to keep him away from that creep..More over after 7 yrs leap in the show Abhi was supposedly celebrating marriage anniversary on what could have been Dadi's death anniversary date..so it doesn't really matter much now..🥱


And I don't think KKB writers/cvs are actually backtracking severely...in a hurry to launch new track they just copy pasted plots, scenes, episodes, sequences, character traits and dialogues from multiple old Ballaji soaps leap with kids tracks as a khichdi,🤪 and in that process some oversights / mess ups they possibly could have undermined..


I actually felt if it was any other sensible production house or writers/directors team. the kind of fans outrage and full negative media reviews that appeared Apr last week about KKB leap track, by now Tanu's character would have been thrown out in some pretext or the other from Abhi's house to get some empathy towards Abhi and also shown that he feels remorse, to avoid further damage.


But here Balalji team seems to be doing everything to justify Tanu's role & her presence in MM, trying to decrease levels of hatred by such new dialogues giving more emphasis that people still miss Pragya even till date. In this shift mode process may be they are actually trying to uphold actress playing Tanu whom they might have negotiated and retained in this show with a meaty role promise and pay rise..😳.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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@ann there was this low budget Malayalam movie (I watched with English subtitles) which was mix of silsila, aarzoo, tab he Bana Di Jodi, nikaah and other similar movie tropes. The first 40 minutes of the movie was about an army officer hero and chirpy bubbly girl who then was presumed dead on battlefield and before interval a common neighbour married with the girl as she was pregnant before marriage. For 6 years, the man used to sleep in sofa and loved the 5 year old son and respect the wife wishes. Then the first hero returns and then girl first love again become dominant formsome time. The boy also came to know about his biological father. But in the end they chose the second hero over the first one asnhe was there when they were at their worst without wanting anything in exchange, he was there when everyone was against the girl, he was there to understand the girl pain and was there to do a proper upbringing of the son. The message of the movie was clear. Just love without any kind of understanding, without trust, without understanding how other person feels, blaming everything on other person because you are not capable to take it is not a proper love.
King has a long way to go. No doubt about it. Based on your written updates he still come out a slightly jerk and irresponsible. But he seems to have taken the role of a friend, of a partner me of a dad quite well. Yes maybe there is zero love currently between them but he was there an abhi was not. Hell abhi cant be equated to first hero as well. That poor guy was a prisoner of war for 6 years. And where was abhi for 7 years. Throwing a pregnant wife and driven her to suicide, marrying a money leech, still hating Pragya for i don't know what illogical reason and etc etc. Can makers show that okay Pragya will run and say I love you abhi and Kiara will run and say I love my biological father and forget king. They can as they are masters of showing illogical things.

Abhi can be redeemed only if he realizes he was and is at fault. then also what guarantee is there tomorrow he will not throw Pragya out if Tanu shoot swarna dadi. He first need to understand a wife is a part of family not some commodity which you buy from someone and throw her out because you hurt my family. Even after his redemption, I don't want an endgame of abhi and Pragya. I am okay if they don't show king Pragya endgame and Pragya living independently with Kiara and king as a friend. But as they already have shown king as father, so let's see what makers decide
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@prozium, you make a lot sense! Thanks for your post!

I never felt Abhi and Pragya belonged together. Abhi started off as a dark character with a lot of negative qualities. Pragya was such a delightful character, so positive and her influence changed him a lot. But I didn't think those changes were lasting because Prayga started her missions and totally confused him about her identity. In way I can see Abhi's point of view. He's not a traditional guy and doesn't have much in common with Pragya's values. I feel Abhi kicking Pragya out is symbolic of the clash inside him - the trendy take it easy guy vs being a responsible and put up with her unconditionally. Life was hell for both of them. So he took the easy route and chose not to deal with her missions.

IMO, writers never meant to make their love so super duper. I think they were trying to mock the traditional concepts of arranged marriages. I think viewers interpreted their marriage as a great love story. So I never felt both of them loved each other as regular love.

I've always wanted Pragya to quit their relationship and leave Abhi and MM. I wanted to see Pragya reject the joke of a marriage she had and walk out with moral superiority and heroism. Pragya not taking crap in this track in mm and taaliya is probably the best part of this track (haven't watched the show in more than a week, so not sure).

Maybe now Pragya will begin to fall in love with King. Maybe she now realizes what real love is and not the kind of love where she has to save her husband all the time. I don't want to see just an empty friendly relationship between King and Pragya at the end. hope both King and Pragya fall in love with each other. Maybe the endgame is Prayga choosing King over Abhi. That would be excellent. Bottomline for me - Pragya's life has to have meaning for her and for viewers. Pragya settling for kumkum is not the right choice. At some point, Pragya's character has to become inspiring again, and not just a woman who gets pitied.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Good morning girls !!!!
Agree with you Ann, Ambica and LA. I agree everything with Prozium👍🏼.

Prani, respect your opinion but I am still not there yet, who knows, I might get there😕. In general, I would like to believe that love and friendship can be different. Friends don't have to be lovers, no matter what they have done for each other. But the vice versa holds true, lovers have to be friends in every sense. I have a few, very close friends who would do anything for me, in a literal sense, but they would totally freak out if I told them I love them😉 in this sense😃, nor do I feel that way for them.

Yes, Annie, the writers sought out to shock us, looks like, in turn they got gobsmacked really bad😃. Whether we agree or not, to be brutally honest, the underlying theme of this show is always that of whether Abhi would either reign in his indiscretions either voluntarily ( when he is in his senses ) or if others would help him do that and we were tethered with this apprehension always. The story became a feel good one, as they seemingly upheld the sanctity of marriage by their preachings, be it only in the name of kumkum, MS etc. and in the process we found Abhi, Pragya to be in deeply falling in love with each other and some of us fell hopelessly in love with that couple💔

But when they make the lead cross that morally indefensible line, then all connections to him are lost , just like that☢️😲. He had insulted all of us viewers, as Harsha put in somewhere, for staying with them for 4 years, not to mention Pragya and daadi in that order. It took a really long time for me to accept Abhi as a hero in the first place for being disloyal to his friend ( he intentionally married a supposed love interest of his friend ), but somebody was watching over him and saved him from making that gravest sin of his lifetime. That was a very bitter pill for me at that time.

Even now, if they just showed him that he lost it with daadi's death and said some revolting things to Pragya in the spur of that moment, I probably would have swallowed it with lots of coffee, soda, antacids and whatever else over the next 2 years, if only they showed that he came to his senses and set out to look for her and truly repenting what he had done and he couldn't find her as she is in London. Like Prozium said in the past, this should have changed his outer shell to be ruthless, hard with the softness buried deep inside because of what their relationship had become. He would have been in a morally defensible place, if he got angry at her for leaving him at the time of his need or whatever it may be. But no, instead they showed us that he is happy and normal with everybody else to the point of forgetting what the 🤬has done and bring her in as a beloved💔Ewww... and marry her Ewww...👎🏼💔 That is emesis provoking. So now he failed Pragya and forget about Pragya, his own sense of love, biggg time. He failed daadi in the process as well, as he knows fully well that daadi wanted him to stay away from this creature with all her heart. So once he crossed that morally reprehensible line, I lost all connect with him as a viewer and could care less as to what his life had become or how sad he is or how he is still ruminating about Pragya being bewafaa or a mistake in his life😡💔 There is absolutely no soul searching on the part of this guy, who should have known her inside out, he is probably the closest to her to know what her essence is and how she would never have compromised daadi if she could help it. Only the week before we heard him say to the police guy in jail " how one would ladh bhi jaata and mar bhi jaata" for his love. He did neither here, instead maar diya usko💔👎🏼 and then went on to do the unthinkable. So how can you connect with a guy like this? Pardon me for saying this, but would we accept such behavior from our life partners in real life? Even though we know this is fictional, I am sure we do apply it to real life at some level, heck I apply it to real life all the time and get mad. Then, how do you defend this guy at any level? I am sorry, I find his actions unjustifiable and indefensible any which way I look at it.

There isn't anything he doesn't know about the sleazy vamp, except for the fact that she also was behind daadi's death. But that can't be a be all, end all revelation, he knows how low that creature can fall and that should have been enough for him to keep her at bay. No matter what the situation they show, I would have expected my hero to say " I am true to my love ( may be not to Pragya ) and would never do anything to disrespect that" and marrying that vulgarity " NEVER IN MY LIFETIME". But we didn't get any of that. This totally puts him at risk of being false, fake and totally superficial in the last 4 years of his married life.

So people like me who were in this for this couple, Abhi, Pragya are so disillusioned now to the point of saying I don't want this guy anywhere near her life. What about next time? If somebody makes up a convincing enough story, is he going to do the repeat of throwing her out😡😲💔. Which woman would want to live in Pragya's shoes not knowing exactly what her place is in his life, whether it is the most important one or she is a worthless mistake😡😭👎🏼

More later. Sorry Ann, if I hijacked the discussion.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have been meaning to ask this guys, whatever happened to Simonica? Is she serving her sentence or was she killed so no evidence can ever be found against the 🤬?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@mili, hope Simonica is alive somewhere and gets into an odd situation where King or Pragya help her out and she exposes Tanu for her gratefulness and meets Abhi in person, makes him sit in one corner of MM and blurts out the entire truth about who was behind Dadi's death and that will make our day, but will the darling of KKB creative team get exposed at all till the end?

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