true revenge story. calm down feminist

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Posted: 7 years ago
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First for all I think I am started to hate the word feminist ,coz it's so shallow and selfish. A women is put on a high horse while man are considered like dirt so I don't agree with at all. I believe in the word equality for men & women. Wrong or for right .
So when I see ppl go on advay is cruel why manhandling ,why calling her characterless etc I don't agree with it coz he has reasons that say things unlike MLs of Gul's other show. And more than that I glad he is angry that she left her child ,disowned her own mid that makes him more angry and hateful and not to believe his innocence . Chandni is contradiction ,what she says and what she end up doing is completely different coz of love for her mother. She has given so many things to advay disbelief her while just small opportunity of telling him about her past subconsciously but that too just after she brings a baby in the house.

Curx of my post basically is ,if a women is being hurtful (putting nails in flowers) gets away with name of fighting back and strong while a man who has just pulled girl by her arm ,throwing her out of his house is considered just a big issue .the said girl is the one who started rumours that end up killing his parents, PARENTS !!! You know how it must be for that man who was himself a kid. Why think coz he is man he supposed to take revenge in his limits with women . He should first find out the truth to happened 16 yrs ago where a mob killed his parents and where no man want to involve in such murder cases and provide information. V family has not documented their bad acts or made video of them to give him evidence about who is the main culprit. This man has no clue especially about indrani's involvement .he is just working on his guts and hunch but he surely knows what chandni said .

Anyway I just wanted to tell u all a true story that happened into my Nana's village around 18yrs back .I was very small than but I gotta know about it later. This is how true /real revenge roles my friend . A revenge you will never want to see and hear . So what's they showing in show is still very mild and digestible so no need to go hyper over how cruel advay is .

Here it is -

A sikh family newly found shelter in my Nana's village . They bought lands and build home for peaceful life . They lived their for 20yrs and they soon become one of the biggest landlord in the village that explained how rich they were . A that village people knew was this family has gone necular for their joint family in their true home back in Punjab due to some fights or disagreement over LAND.
So after 20 yrs that is in around 1997 a jeep full of sikh man came into the family home carrying big kniives and swords that too in broad daylight light . They use to live in the outer part of village ,their home surrounded by acres of land with few more neighbouring houses . Those people in jeep that were around 8-10 went on killing spree.

Cut the neck of oldest member that was their own grandfather bring brother of that lad's father .
They killed every member of the family no one was spared .

Passed a sword right through womb of their pargnant Babhi .
Killed kids that were just 5,6 yr old . Even killed a small baby . (What was there mistake)
It was harvest season so there were a lot of workers working in the farm and in fields ,they killed reach one of them with no gulit or remorse .

One of my uncle in extended family was killed too .


They went as they come and destroyed everything in a couple of minutes .

Police came , investigation happened but no one from neighbouring family were ready to say a word ,a few who stood up were threatened to be killed .

As you all its all corruption in our system those who killed get by with no punishment by paying huge money to police so with no witness against them . And case got used coz no one was left in the victim family to keep on fighting ,everyone was killed .

The basic reason of revenge was - the family who came to village had fight over land with his other brothers. His brother wanted to snatch his land away but he didn't have them coz farming was his only means of living . His brother threatened him ,that they will him and his family .so scared he sold all his land and ew with his family ,hoping now they can live peacefully . It was all good for 20yrs ,but than the worst happened .

So many innocent killed just because of a piece of land that too after 20yrs of the said disagreements .

In the real life people take worst revenge than its shown in the show .they don't care women Charles's and throw her out if house ,they actually rape her or put acid on her or kill her .

So go easy on. Advay . He is more sane when he should have been most insane .

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Posted: 7 years ago
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well...I dislike your hatred for the word feminism...we need feminism...in a world where women still are denied so much we need feminism...because feminism is 'advocating females' rights on the basis of equality of sexes'...feminism is not as far from equality as you seem to think.
The way some people here keep saying that chandni spread rumours about his mother, it sounds like she did all of that intentionally...and as much as I have seen this show she did not spread the rumours intentionally or actively...she was a 6-8 year old kid who only answered what she thought was true...surely if we can excuse a 32 year old professor who sexually intimidates in the name of revenge,we can try and understand a kid's psychology/nature too...what happened to advay's family was unfortunate,chandni's naivete cost advay his family...but he needs to go after the real,adult culprits imo...and unlike what you seem to think advay does have an idea about there being other adult conspirators...that much has been made clear through his flashbacks.


I am sorry, I didn't read the real life experience you shared...but I read the last para...IMO just because people in real life have done worse,it does not make advay entirely right...he was/is supposed to be a dark character...dark is not supposed to be justifiable or right,is it? One can enjoy dark characters/stories...like I enjoyed wuthering heights...but how do you justify a dark character at every point?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I hope u know what feminism means! Feminism means equality! It is not an equivalent to male chauvinism! And if u hate feminism then u hate the idea of equality!
Edited by Niks77 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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First of all this is an open forum. As far as I understood from TM comments she was just saying that over use of feminism is wrong. We may not agree but there is no need to be rude. This is a revenge series so they have to show something! The focus over here should be how chandhini should defend herself because so far she is keeping quiet. She has to fight for herself. She need to start loving herself first and only then others will love her. I want chandhini to stand up for herself.
About chandhini being innocent. I agree that she didn't realise what she was doing as a kid but she knows now what she is doing! correct? She is making a decision for her family and deciding to bear all the shame. It's her choice. Advay didn't stay back to insult her daily, she came to his place. Also he asked her about baby.let's say that he has no right to judge her but if it was a man doing same, then what will we say? if we know a man gave up the kid for adoption. would you say he is a good man?


Edited by Neelum.drashti - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neelum.drashti

First of all this is an open forum. As far as I understood from TM comments she was just saying that over use of feminism is wrong. We may not agree but there is no need to be rude. This is a revenge series so they have to show something! The focus over here should be how chandhini should defend herself because so far she is keeping quiet. She has to fight for herself. She need to start loving herself first and only then others will love her. I want chandhini to stand up for herself.

About chandhini being innocent. I agree that she didn't realise what she was doing as a kid but she knows now what she is doing! correct? She is making a decision for her family and deciding to bear all the shame. It's her choice. Advay didn't stay back to insult her daily, she came to his place. Also he asked her about baby.let's say that he has no right to judge her but if it was a man doing same, then what will we say? if we know a man gave up the kid for adoption. would you say he is a good man?





There is nothing wrong if advay gave up a child to adoption for his brother's and the child's sake jut like chandni did! Bet he wouldn't be shamed like this by a woman on having sex before marriage! This is not even an argument about what chandni did was right or wrong! It is about feminism! And I don't see how supporting feminism is wrong!
Edited by Niks77 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think we need equality of both men and women in today's world
Atrocities on women are so rampant nowadays
So yes women do need to stand up for themselves now
We still are a male dominated society which is unfair
Few women are really cruel like Indrani
But for every Indrani we have millions of Ravans
So there is a hugely unbalanced ratio
To make a better world the men have to be better too
But with respect to the show I know Advay has his reasons to hate Chandni
After all based on her words his parents were killed
His life was at risk and he had to throw his brother
But in real life people will do much worse and even kill
As for the bashers I doubt they are fans of the show at all
People do not need a reason to bash that just makes them feel good
Some also feel very superior by bashing popular shows
The experience you shared is really terrible and sad
But yes these type of things do happen in the real world
This is why we need more of people like Naani
She has moved on from her past

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: 2filmy

I think we need equality of both men and women in today's world
Atrocities on women are so rampant nowadays
So yes women do need to stand up for themselves now
We still are a male dominated society which is unfair
Few women are really cruel like Indrani
But for every Indrani we have millions of Ravans
So there is a hugely unbalanced ratio
To make a better world the men have to be better too
But with respect to the show I know Advay has his reasons to hate Chandni
After all based on her words his parents were killed
His life was at risk and he had to throw his brother
But in real life people will do much worse and even kill
As for the bashers I doubt they are fans of the show at all
People do not need a reason to bash that just makes them feel good
Some also feel very superior by bashing popular shows
The experience you shared is really terrible and sad
But yes these type of things do happen in the real world
This is why we need more of people like Naani
She has moved on from her past



Advay the super smart guy doesn't even care for the actual guy who set his mother on fire instead he is taking a revenge from a small girl who just said she saw her flying! What bakwas logic!
Edited by Niks77 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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First of all this is an open forum. As far as I understood from TM comments she was just saying that over use of feminism is wrong. We may not agree but there is no need to be rude. This is a revenge series so they have to show something! The focus over here should be how chandhini should defend herself because so far she is keeping quiet. She has to fight for herself. She need to start loving herself first and only then others will love her. I want chandhini to stand up for herself.

About chandhini being innocent. I agree that she didn't realise what she was doing as a kid but she knows now what she is doing! correct? She is making a decision for her family and deciding to bear all the shame. It's her choice. Advay didn't stay back to insult her daily, she came to his place. Also he asked her about baby.let's say that he has no right to judge her but if it was a man doing same, then what will we say? if we know a man gave up the kid for adoption. would you say he is a good man?



Bold agree fully
A man giving up the adoption for baby too would have been criticized I think
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Niks77



Advay the super smart guy doesn't even care for the actual guy who set his mother on fire instead he is staking a revenge from a small girl who just sayid she saw her flying! What bakwas logic!


As he heard with his own ears and saw with his own eyes that she said his mother was flying in the air and she also gave out his hiding place to the goons
I don't want to argue with you on this so I am out
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Niks77



There is nothing wrong if advay gave up a child to adoption for his brother's and the child's sake jut like chandni did! Bet he wouldn't be shamed like this by a woman on having sex before marriage! This is not even an argument about what chandni did was right or wrong! It is about feminism! And I don't see how supporting feminism is wrong!


There is nothing wrong with supporting feminism. Why would you assume nothing will happen to a man? how many time I have seen a guy unable to getting remarried after he divorced? people refusing to give their daughter into wedding with a guy who has got ''reputation''. Men are victim of acid attacks too. So the whole point is that we need to stand up for female rights but let's also stand for human rights too.

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