Harman's Love Vs Saumya's Fear..Who will Win? - Page 2

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Posted: 8 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: zubeada

wow jyoti wht an amazing analysis & Review❤️

i too hated inserting preetoo in this track
but i wish they totaly focuz on haya in this track not preetoo much



Actually flashback could hv come in the end of this track .. then we would not hv to tolerate Preeto giving orders to Saumya .. I still hope thats not the case and whatever HaYa do with each other , there r no third party influences
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Posted: 8 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Beautiful...

Nice analysis Jyoti

The episode was so good and a perfect ending by the temple scene of haya.
Harman entry with soumya is just mind blowing and preetho defeated look is great and yes harak Singh is genuinely happy to see Harman back unlike preetho who is looking unhappy.
Preetho fb scene looked forced . And the ending scene is so emotional and painful.



I loved it when HaYa entered the house and Preeto had that defeated look on her face... Harman dint even bother to tell anyone about all the details .. Preeto faces another defeat 😆

And yes HaYa visiting bangkok temple was a lovely scene too 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LuvRUBI

Don't know what is CV problem with haya close scenes.. but still it was beautiful. I loved mandir scene.. it was beautifully picturised.

Regarding fb, I thought you would be happy as it was you only who predicted that something definitely happened when saumya was inside the room n harman slept outside. I know people can't digest preeto but this time I am happy as atleat we got the reason for saumya's disastrous decision of selling herself. I was completely ok with saumya leaving harman n going back to saaya etc. but this selling thing was too much n I wanted a strong reason for this n since now we got the reason I am relieved.

I loved both harman saumya confession n felt how painful their lovestory is. Both love each other n wanted to stay with each other but this damn society.. are never going to live them peacefully.

I am loving this maalik gulam tashan-e-love...



Yes I always though there was some missing link of that night and though I knew its something to do with Preeto only , but I wish it was a better reason than same old Preeto 😡 . but like I mentioned in my same take that Preeto is a grt manipulator , so it makes sense that she left the house after those words of Preeto hit her hard .. she felt defeated and disappointed by Harman only and dint really hv anything to say in her defence in front of Preeto ..which is one of the major reason she left that night ..

And yup it does look like she is trying every possible way to make Harman hate her which even includes selling herself .. still I do hope Saumya regrets for taking such a step later .. because this act was a bit too extreme ..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: khan_

and even very happy with the trp



hope trp is maintained and they dont go back to Preeto drama ..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sairitu

Congrats all HAYA fans for this magical TRP.I am so happy to see the rise in TRP.HAYA truly deserves this as they enacted very well thier emotions .

Kudo's to the director,cinematographer of bangkok track for beautifully executing scenes with perfection.
Thank you jyothi for your analysis .I always look forward to your takes .they are so unbiased .



Oh yes bangkok track deserves this trps .. technically episodes were brillaint .. especially that noor e khuda picturisation and kidnap sequence ...Rashmi sharma's husband Pawanji personally directed Bangkok epis and he is one of the best director in theatre .. so no wonder epis were of high quality ... Wish he directs all epis in India too which I know not possible but still 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: anitarani

Beautiful review again Jyoti...now I begin to understand Saumya's

point of view...thanks for the indepth explanation/analysis...you
are just too good...a real mind reader...going to the depth of each
character...especially that of Haya...Love this war of words
between Malik and Gulam...and hoping focus stays on Haya
only...Was really disappointed at the end of the Bangkok track...
that whole scenario...with jazzy nautanki Maharani and all was
great...😳



Though I m trying to understand Saumya as well slowly .. but I still wish they dont show too much Preeto domination over her again .. it will look repitative then .. its a HaYa tashan track and it should remain like that only .. both can pull each other's hair out , we wont mind as long as Preeto is out of the picture 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Flora15

For all Shakti fans congratulations for the big jump in the trp👏 👏 🥳Bangkok track was a hit in all the senses direction ,technically, concentration in HaYa ,the purefull places where excused HaYa scenes...Hats of to all the team who made Bangkok track successful .We enjoyed in Bangkok track with Hilarious HaYa scenes with amazing execution and I won'the relate the beauty of Bangkok track bcz we talked about.Hope makers understand when there is concentration in the mean leads and a good execution sure trp will increase.
Dear gago your retake is amazing ;loved the uptitle"Harman Love Vs Saumya fear" and I said that is inspiring a lot of thoughts. You never desappointed me ;your analysis of all the details is fabulous but as usual i'll make an usual retake with smalls differents interpretation especially Preeto flashback and her dialogue with Saumya.
First the episode begins with a funny dialogue between mahrani and Harman .He said he'll take Saumya with him at any cost and mahrani said him" ye film nahi ha😆 asli mahrani "and clapping with her hand with her funniest expressions and" said him kya karega ha"😆 Harman with one hand angrily push Mahrani to the wall and as predator begin beating Avinash saying you're baying someone's mothers and sisters ;Harman is enraged and his expressions are showing his increased rage and with it he's increasing beating him badly saying severals times where is Saumya .Oh god we're really thankful that his hindi guide friend comes with the police or Harman will commit a crime killing Avinash. Even with police enter Harman is out of control keeping being Avinash asking about Saumya. ..He stopped only when his friend said him to stop or he'll kill him .Just then they heard girls screaming ;Harman heart skip with fear they go to the place where are all girls and Harman fil released only when he saw his gulabo.I won't do an analysis for HaYa hug bcz you''v done it perfectly and yes Saumya for a glimpse of second forgotten everything and enjoyed Harman hug feeling his warmth and smelling his fragrance ; she's missing him and missing hearing her heart beat in his heart ...But unfortunately ,it was only a moment and Saumya hundled herself.I amazed that they showed that hug but it isn't taken from the same angle of that segment we have seen and we didn't see that passionate flashy forehead kiss from the purefull ashiq..The scene was Incomplete but was fabulous with every single detail done by that lover to his lady love and with his emotional speech with his modulated voice that he'll never let her go far away from him.
They goodby from Bangkok to the guide who tell them they'll come next time for an outing was amazing ;wish like u that HaYa return to Bangkok as lovers in a new honeymoon but we're only dreaming😆 Before quiting Bangkok Harman tells Saumya to pray and said" ji malik";Harman shocked Said "Malik "? Saumya said you bought me and i'll listen to your orders but never expect that i'll love you. Harman is saying few seconds before gulabo ,gulabo in every sentence with happiness is perplexed and said oh!god I said her Tha angrily and she took it as real.Harman discovered that his gulabo take every thing as it said and she can't differenciate anything ;she's so pure and naif. Saumya closed her eyes praying and Harman keep gazing at his beautiful wife and prayed god the give force to clear everything and make his love ignite in his wife heart.
I won't talk about that family drama doing prayers for Harman return like I do in my retakes and I skip directly to that hilarious entry of HaYa in Harman Singh house.The door opened and it's HaYa entry ,when all the family see Harman and Saumya they freezed with shock only two persons show happiness chintu and Harak Singh face shined with a happy smile forgetting Saumya and enjoying his son return.Loved the background sounds effects used with HaYa entry, first they used the wind storm sound with prayers sounds .HaYa return will be the storm for that family, HaYa with that sound prayers means that this couple is blessed by God and their love is Devine. ..Makers amazed us more with the famous song Shakti. .Oh my god!hearing this song again have tears in my eyes ;HaYa together are Shakti ; their love story is Shakti and we will see the Shakti of Harman love how he'll cure his wife wounds and ignite in her his love who is kept inside her heart.
Harman tells his family with authority no one ask Saumya Where she's gone ,what happened or anything and said this "aurat gulam"
Don't know if you noticed like me he said "aurat";Harman even said word gulam ;said with it "aurat"..Harman is considering his wife aurat...But it seems what is resonant more and shocked Saumya and others is gulam.When he said felt Happy and sad in same time.Happy for Harman smartness ;he's using the same weapon ; as his wife refused him and because he bought her and he said her that she's his property take it for real.He said to himself "tik hai" as your wishes my love you don't want being my wife tik Hai you're my gulam ;you'r my property like you said .Why not? The most important thing you're with me.I'll treat you as gulam till you redeem my love.Harman from Bangkok decided doing that when he done that dashing smile.
Harman took Saumya to their room and push her badly saying her from now you'll listen to my orders and goes.Just then Preeto has done her entry and it's the flashback and after that the torture.I wanted see what happened that night but not from the first day of Haya coming. I won't blame CVS bcz they can have an agenda and it'seems important showing that flashback directly with Haya return .Jyoti i'm with you that Saumya have fear from getting exposed in front of society and how to do without Harman support and you have said it's like Harman fear of loosing Saumya if society discover she's kinar.;just here it'seems well said my dear gago but Saumya really want live with her real identity and she's hurted badly dicovering that her husband loves only her beauty .Concentrate in all that flashback ;how Preeto brainwashed Saumya perfectly and made her another person.She said her you know now that he loves your Beauty ;you lost him ..What do you do if society discover that you're kinar,Harman will be not with you and this family will be hurted aND difamed..You know what you want. Preeto speech is adding more fire and harassing her.
Saumya is a very complicated character ;she's full of complexes and especially her identity ,Saumya is pure and sensible, Saumya can't hate and Saumya sacralises the family unity.Saumya leaved Harman to live with her real identity out of fear ,insecurity and especially hatred.Saumya is tired with being hated she said that to Harman in that MU and after leaving Harman one kinar showed her hatred; Saumya prayed her if she can't give her love don't hate her.Saumya loved Harman and choosen being kinar because thought that her husband loves only her beauty and not her soul..She said that and showed it severals times after quiting Harman especially that famous and hilarious monologue in Bangkok in Avinash home balcony she said bitterly you love only my beauty and said she can't be that wife who can give him happiness and woman need because she's adhuri.
Saumya understand everything superficially and the exemples are many ;i'll remember you with the famous one when she saw a couple fighting in Bangkok ;she said fights happens only between man and woman and her eyes are full of tears.
Jyoti Preeto get her target and she's harassing Saumya badly again saying her why she returned and our lovely Saumya painfully answered her I have gone so far ;he finds me and i sold myself to make him hating me but he bought me and returned me .Preeto shakes her angrily saying you're becoming my son illness.It was very hurtful watching Saumya treated like that.I usually tray to make myself in her place to feel her feelings. ..It's unbearable situation ; no one can support it .
But Jyoti this time Preeto is only screaming ; Saumya is Harman property and no one dare touch her..He's her Malik and she'll only listen to his orders .Preeto acting like this sure end trapped by Harman with proof this time bcz Harman know the mastermind of Saumya changement and he done his strategy not only to win his lady love love again but to trap the criminals who destroyed his relation with his wife.
Saumya crying and saying our love for each other is different and saying that this time she'll go so far and he will not find her.
Their love is different is only after what happened Saumya loves Harman a lot but for all what happened wants leaving far of him living with his love memories ; Saumya love watching him happy building his life with a complete woman, fullfiling his family wish by having children and respected in society.Saumya won't be selfish destroying Harman's life ;she prefers living the hell and not hurting him.Harman wants her in his life ;she's his love and he will not giving up till he burns her her heart with love and she confesses him her love.
For the last scene of Harman i'm really loving Harman more and more,Harman is the man of seasons and I felt bad for him but Harman is very courageous and can do the unbelievable for making that love work.
Harman famous dialogue
"Hatho ki lakeer ki tarah ho tu
Hatho mai ho
Par muthi mai nahi"
I was very ridiculous in tinting traducing that monologue 🤣 but I really i' loved my ridiculous traduction because it was poetic and have reversals meanings and this my traduction but Hasana nahi 😆
"you're like the lines of my hand.
May you be;
but not a fiddle .
The real traduction gived by one freind
You are like the lines of my hands, you are inside my hand but not inside my fist .
I'll analize mine like I felt it🤣Saumya is inside Harman ;she's infused in him ;his heart is beating for her and he's breathing her love .Saumya is with Harman and that may be means that Saumya is too loving Harman but she's rejecting that love .Saumya is inside Harman love but her heart isn't composing the molody of love.
that's why Harman said but not a fiddle .The fiddle is Harman who will compose the hilarious composition of that Heart.😆 This is what I felt even the traduction is false;what to do with my heart?🤣
The fiddle can be also symbolizing the mastermind who changed Saumya and makes her indeffernt with her love rejecting him ;she's in his hand but there is a fiddle who is manipulating her.
Gago ,i'm really thankful that you're telling me to write my retake again ;hopping that my dear soon bcz i'm really missing that.
You're saying to make those relays as posts ;it's unfair for you first because i'm bazing my replays to immerse more in some points or to make something different..Your posts inspires what I write. My retake have a strategy with a plan ,I talk about the whole episode immersing in details and in the characters.
Watch the ep severals times and sometimes I can repeat a scene das baar to write what is said in Hindi🤣 I love doing a complete retake like i'my counting a story with quotes and every episode should have a tittle related to the choosen quotes.


m really loving Harman more and more,Harman is the man of season and I felt bad for him but Harman is very courageous and can do the unbelievable for making that love work.
Harman famous dialogue
"Hatho ki lakeer ki tarah ho tu
Hatho mai ho
Par muthi mai nahi"
I was very ridiculous in tinting traducing that monologue 🤣 but I really i' loved my ridiculous traduction because it was poetic and have reversals meaning and this my traduction but Hasana nahi 😆
"you're like the lines of my hand.
May you be;
but not a fiddle .
The real traduction gived by one freind
You are like the lines of my hands, you are inside my hand but not inside my fist .
I'll analize mine like I felt it🤣Saumya is inside Harman ;she infused in him ;his heart is beating for him and he's breathing her love .Saumya is with Harman and that may be means that Saumya is too loving Harman but she's rejecting that love .Saumya is inside Harman love but her heart isn't composing the molody of love.
that'said why Harman said but not a fiddle the fiddle is Harman who will compose the hilarious composition of that Heart.😆 This I'd what I felt even the traduction is false;what to do with my heart?🤣
The fiddle can be also symbolizing the mastermind who changed Saumya and makes her indeffernt with her love rejecting him ;she's in his hand but there a fiddle who is manipulating her.
Gago ,i'm really thankful that you'received telling to write my retake again ;hopping that my dear soon bcz i'm really missing that.
You're saying to make those relays as posts ;it'seems unfair for you first because i'm bazing my replays to immerse more in some points or to make something different..Your posts inspires what I write. My retake have a strategy with a plan ,I talk about the whole episode immersing in details and in the characters.
Watch the ep several times and sometimes I can repeat a scene das baar to write what is said in Hindi🤣 I love doing a complete retake like i'my counting a story with quotes and every episode should have a tittle related to the choosen quotes.





Flora thats a lovely analysis dear 👏 .. I agree that hug was shown from different angle and the SBAS angle was better one but thank god at least hug was shown .. I thought they will edit it again 😆 .. And loved that little moment as she finds some relief in his warm arms and he too finds peace taking her in his arms .. lovely moment

He thought he got his Gulabo back and was happy .. but things changed when in temple she called him Malik .. he realised that she is still angry on him .. and so to forcefully keep her with him , he had to apply reverse psychology by calilng her ghulam because she was not ready to stay with him as his wife .. once again smart presense of mind from Harman ..

About Preeto dominating Saumya , I really hope what u say is right and this time she just keeps screaming because Saumya is Harman's property now and he is calling the shots .. So even if Preeto tries , she will fail as the ball is in Harman's court this time 😎

Yes Saumya is a complicated character .. her inner conflicts and insecurities r yet to completely wipe off .. fact that she cannot give that happiness of a wife still haunts her and on top of that Harman's rejection that night break her completely ... if it was not enough then Preeto's further taunts that night finally forced her to leave the house ... sighhh 😭

Loved those dialogues of Harman about haaton ki lakeer ..so true .. he knows Saumya is in his lifeline but somehow he is not able to get hold of her completely and this is what is hurting him like anything ..

both HaYa r in pain and they can heal each other's pain only by coming together

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