Which one is bigger? Murder or Rape

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Poll is just an attention grabber, but since I have seen so many posts claiming, "There is nothing worse than sexual assult (on woman- being specified very often), or forcing someone to have physical relationship, without their wish..."

I was just wondering, what is bigger as crime? Murder or Rape? Both of which are so sensitve in India, CVs of this show simply made mockery out of it... Rape has been used so casually by CVs, that I cannot even describe the storyline 🤢🤢

This sentence, would definitely be used in future to prove, I am so heartless...!!! But so far,
Maya had almost killed Janvi, she had just physically hurt Vandana, she just played small role in killing Prem, but so far, she hasn't been shown killing anyone... Equally Samay had almost raped Maya, so far Maya is still seen coming to meet Samay at her will, of course on being blackmailed... But still she is giving in to his demand, though not because she enjoys it. Samay has just manhandled and abused her, just like Maya had just pushed Janvi.

So, for anyone here who tells me, that she has indeed committed murder of Ashwin, well, I honestly do NOT consider it as big crime, (😆😆 I really don't know what CVs have done to me, murder is still not a crime...) because, he deserved it... He had actually pushed every button in Maya that led his murder at her hands... SAME GOES HERE ---> Maya has pushed every button in Samay, to make him do what he is doing, so for me, it's not a big big crime either (Again, this show has led me to think about this 😆😆, I am ok, to be called insensitive and be sent to Pagalkhana), If I don't call killing of Ashwin as crime, I do not call Samay's abuse as crime too. It's that way... So no, people are calling monster to Samay (Which he actually is, but more than "Is"; show focuses on How has he been made so... by Maya), but I totally DISAGREE, that he is "Worse" than Maya or Ashwin.

No one can actually beat "Ashwin" in being the lowest of all time, and followed by Maya, in my opinion.

Now, coming to all those who keep says, Maya deserves punishment, but let that be legal way, this is not the way, via Samay... We have already seen, how dumb legal system works in this show, so far Maya has been playing around with it, mocking it and fooling it... Just being punished legally won't suffice, she needs the dose, which I had always thought "Useless" Saanjh would give it, which hasn't happened... But definitely now, it's Samay, who is giving it to her... So, if no one, "Arjun" or "Maya" has right to decide punishment for offenders, except legal offices, but Maya has been doing it all the while, she has been punishing people on her own accord; Then why should one wait for Legal Action to be taken against Maya, why can't Samay decide some punishment for her...????

Yes, agree with many who says, punishments won't affect her, till she is guilty of her own crimes and lives by it; but I don't think that's ever coming till end, atleast for now "Seeing" her helpless could be some part of her punishment... till she really feels guilty.

That's all for my ranting...🥱🥱

Do let me know, if you consider any crime as bigger than other...

@shahsb I am a person who believes you are responsible for your own actions. You can hide a crime from the eyes of the society, but you cannot hide it from you. Your actions will always one way or the other show the crime you have committed so that the punishment comes to you, as you cannot beat Newton's third law of motion, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Only thing is that one action will have multiple reactions good and bad and you have to bear the consequences of all those reactions. That's why it is said that let the action be in such a way so that the maximum reactions are good so net result is good. That's why all scriptures say in times of moral conflict listen to heart than the head.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@shahsb I am a person who believes you are responsible for your own actions. You can hide a crime from the eyes of the society, but you cannot hide it from you. Your actions will always one way or the other show the crime you have committed so that the punishment comes to you, as you cannot beat Newton's third law of motion, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Only thing is that one action will have multiple reactions good and bad and you have to bear the consequences of all those reactions. That's why it is said that let the action be in such a way so that the maximum reactions are good so net result is good. That's why all scriptures say in times of moral conflict listen to heart than the head.

Having said that yes it has to be shown that legal systems works. If people take punishments in their hands, then there is no need for the law in a country. I had expected Saanjh to show that the system does deliver justice as she is a lawyer. But then nothing is coming out as of now.

Beginning @Bold, Saanjh... I don't know where to begin, first this woman needs to get over "Arjun is trapped" syndrome and stop trying to open his eyes... as you have mentioned (bold blue), let Arjun come in terms with his reality on his own now, you tried, person turned deaf, that's it... his FATE... focus on innocent ones, who needs your help... So unless and until Saanjh focuses, such expectation is bekar... And legal system in India might be wayyy better than what is shown in the show... Yes, it's slow, it's corrupted, but many do get things sorted for justice, however, such things are never highlighted by media, because Media focuses on "Who is cribbing" part, when it comes to India.

@Red: That's exactly the point, Maya had set up Samay ... Imagine, if Saanjh wouldn't have bothered with Arjun's whereabout after 3 years, do you think Maya would have still been happily married with Arjun? No, because she had already set up, someone called Samay, or he was always part of it in background, he would have any day come up... But coming up on his own, with connection to Saanjh, and scaring Maya for her crimes (which I hope was only upto killing of Ashwin), would have definitely made me sympathize or feel bad for her... But no, she has been shown as the one to be dropping in all the wrong clues, all the wrong signs., which had to bounce back... Maya has escaped many wrong doings so far, but she couldn't escape this one... so, what Maya is going through is based on what you have mentioned @Maroon.

That's all, 👏

PS: You can call me Sejal 😊 @Bold Green

You know what's disturbing is, this show seems quite real. Don't laugh. Seriously, keeping aside the absurd logistics of this show, outcomes of these situations are similar to the reality.People like Maya and Samay (No, I am not talking about mental illness here) ...Umm.. scratch that criminals like Maya and Samay do get off scot-free.

@sejal I was also with Maya till Ashwin. I could even support some of her manipulations, but ayan and then putting Samay in Saanjh's life has ruined it for her.

Okay so hi sejal!! 😊 u can call me om

well, both crimes are heinous...and not comparable

but for purposes of this poll...i voted for rape
as rape is a killing of soul...even after the worst ur still alive and have to live with it...the other alternative being suicide

whereas in murder, ur dead...no further pain

i repeat...both crimes are still pretty bad...and i spoke generally not in case of beyhadh.

Interesting perspective! I do agree with certain points while I differ with some.

Originally posted by: Darciny

Interesting perspective! I do agree with certain points while I differ with some.

I think Ashwin, Maya and Samay all three are on equal footing as far as their 'Satanic actions' are considered. Ashwin tortured a young innocent girl psychologically as well as physically. Maya tried to kill her own mother twice, framed an innocent guy in a rape case, played a role in the death of a man and also caged her husband with her by threats of suicide(mental harassment). Samay on the other hand, killed an innocent man and was also an accomplice in framing the rape case.

The only difference among the 3 I find is that Ashwin and Samay owned up to their actions. They acknowledged that they are evil and can go to any lengths to achieve their goals. But Maya, she always had some or the other excuse ready for her crimes. Other than that, I don't find any difference among the 3. So for me, all three are equally vile!

Samay here isn't punishing Maya for her crimes. His actions are not even for revenge or justice. He is just resorting to blackmailing to fulfill his sexual desires. He is a hardened criminal and frankly I just cannot bring myself to support his method in trying to get Maya back in his life. Maya may or may not redeem herself in the end, but this incident isn't doing her any good(or making her realize her mistakes). Instead it is just gonna make her more determined than ever to get her revenge on Samay by resorting to more criminal ways.

Originally posted by: Shaenma

@bold: this is one thing which irks me a lot n I feel like cursing the writers then...coz when she is framing someone in a fake rape case or trying to kill her mom then why keep her grey by making her confess to her mom that she keeps evidences so that someone can find it n help her? Such scenes then no longer evoke sympathy anymore ...in season 1 it did because she was still in limits...but the moment she decided to go overboard the CVS should have let her do that unabashedly like how ashwin used to do or samay is doing now...that would have helped in shaping up her character in a better way...this watered down version of Amy Dune is not interesting at all...this is the reason no matter how good Jennifer performs in those solo scenes ...it looks fake and fails to impress!

Now coming to the poll ques...in my opinion both are equally heinous and cringe worthy...and I second what bugsbunny said..rape at times can be more difficult perhaps bcoz when someone dies the pain and agony ends right there...but it takes a lifetime for many to come out of something like rape...the physical scars may cease to exist after a point of time...but the mental scars remains forever...