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Posted: 8 years ago
#21
@peacelover
True vividha need to balance her emotions. Its high time she need to realise it. Also the people around her stop accepting every order of her. Like u said if uma dont want to take care of kk then she simply left the house or she should say I dont like to take care of kk. In this kk case, atharv almost tried his best to make understand vivi about the situation. But she was soo stubborn to understand. Actually cvs take 360 degrees turn in her character, may be to end the show abruptly without any meaningful ending. becoz vivi was betrayed by kk, dadaji,suman and guddi who are all family members of her. But she learned nothing till now. Coming to ravish, vivi short tempered made her to take decision of marriage with ravish again, but it was ravish call too who accepeted purposal even after knowing how much vivi loves atharv. In that second time marriage, both are at fault. Even uma, dadi are not interfered in that matter like vividha is not their daughter. Yes vividha and ravish both took wrong decisions to their lives.
Thats sunjiv sir said vivi is short tempered, atharv is impulsive and ravish is foolish. A perfect statement for phase 3.
For me its a show though I like vitharv I support ravish when he is right. In phase 2 he sidelined himself from vitharv life by understanding their love. He understood sujatha state when she shooted suman coz its a mother pain to save her child. Also suman crossed her limits. but not second time marriage with vivi, marriage with kangana. (my opinion may be u have urs).
I wont support vitharv when I feel they did wrong. like how Iam against to vividha actions now. She totally lost her brain. She need reality check and treatment.
Thanks for replying in good and polite manner. I stated my opinion.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#22
I know Ravish dying in KK's hand is not logical, but hey people want Atharva to leave Vividha for this ?


Did Atharva leave Ravish because both Ravish's grand father and mother tried to kill him? No, because he knew Ravish was not responsible for his family's criminal actions.

Did Atharva stop loving Vividha because Vividha's father almost killed him and called his mother a s**t? Again no, because he knew Vividha is not responsible for her father's demonic acts.

So why will anybody expect Atharva to leave Vividha for Ravish's murder? Yes vividha is wrong, and I am sure Atharva will be upset with her, but he knows that she is not responsible if KK kills anybody.

Ravish did not leave kangna even though kangna has killed his bua and brother, kangna was directly involved in those murders, whereas Vividha is not even involved and her only mistake is she did not trust Atharva which she should have

some facts apply to all characters, Atharva is not irrational, he knows whom he should leave and whom he should not. His life has been the worst compared to Vividha and Ravish, and he is experienced enough with all the deceits, Vividha is the woman, sorry only woman he has ever loved, its too cruel to judge him if he does not leave her. Ravish got a second woman, he moved on and that is great. Atharva cannot move on if Vividha is not with him, may be that is his weakness or strength, but that is how he is.


And Atharva does care for Ravish, he went to pakistan border just to save Ravish, he allowed Ravish to involve in his life whenever it was possible, he did not question Ravish's love for kangna despite madhav's custody issues, he never taunted Ravish regarding suman's acts, he never made Ravish feel inferior just because Vividha left Ravish. Telling some 100 times that " you are family and brother " is not important, important is how you perceive and accept the person you love, Atharva loves his brother, and yes he is grateful too for whatever Ravish did, otherwise Ravish and Kangna would not hesitate to leave this family and go somewhere else, they are staying here only because they know that family loves them and they want the family too.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#23
i don't think attu will leave viv. he mite b angry learning upon truth but won't leave.
and attu don't care abt ravi its clear.he went 2 border not 4 ravi but 4 viv. wen he 1st learnt abt ravi kidnapping he was only consoling suman then he came 2 know viv went 2 kashmir 2 bring back ravi(tho she also went 2 prove herself innocent. rembr suman blamed her 4 it & she said i"ll prove myself innocent)so his 1st words were viv chose ravi & i m going back 2 home .its suman who got angry on him & reminded all ravi did 4 him & in ravi's crisis hes not helping him.then he went 2 rescue ravi.
and wen he reached there he asked viv 2 return & let the army do the work but she was adamant(as she'd said that she will prove herself innocent) so he stayed 4 viv.
it was not bcoz he cared or luved him.it was bcoz of suman & viv oderwise he was ready 2 go back 2 home.
and attu during guddi case never tried 2 know ravi's feelings. he was angry on ravi thatswhy both husbby-wife were bad mouthing him wen he mrd kangana.
he only thot abt guddi not abt ravi.
he din't question him directly but his behaviour clearly showed he only cared 4 himself or viv not even his mom.

attu din't taunt ravi 4 suman bcoz suzy killed suman & ravi defended suzy in court & gave witness in favour of suzy.if attu does this or had taunted abt suman then he wud b worst ckt.
and yes saying u r my bro, family is not impt but how u perceive & accept it is.but nowhere from attu's beaviour or actions had ever proved that he even care 4 ravi leave alone luv.he says sumthingelse at a time then behave sumthing difft nxt moment.

even now if he"ll try 2 find out truth abt ravi's murderer it"ll b 4 viv not justice 4 ravi. nor he"ll avenge 4 ravi's death.

and ravi clearly said he wanted leave family not bcoz he wanted 2 but bcoz of viv behaviour & oder members helplessness.he said wen our own ppl r not wid us & r not 4 us then its better 2 leave.but knagna knew that ravi luvs his family & bro a lot. he won't b happy w/o them even if they r ehsaan faramosh of no.1.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sujata should take things in her hands now.She should dictate Vividha that KK can't stay at their house.And if Vividha is so damn concerned she herself should take care of kk not Uma.I am also not pleased with the fact the way they have forgiven Guddi and now kangana is trying to be ideal bahu.And all this for what?So in their comparison Vividha still looks tolerable to us.But I personally don't like any 3 of them and surely guys deserved better
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Peacelover15


Sujata should take things in her hands now.She should dictate Vividha that KK can't stay at their house.And if Vividha is so damn concerned she herself should take care of kk not Uma.I am also not pleased with the fact the way they have forgiven Guddi and now kangana is trying to be ideal bahu.And all this for what?So in their comparison Vividha still looks tolerable to us.But I personally don't like any 3 of them and surely guys deserved better

i agree wid u but i can 4give kangs bcoz watever she did she did in her mentally unstable state where she din't know wat she was doing is wrong & normal don't do this.din't she tell ravi that she used 2 loose her mental balance in rehab during treatment so they use 2 chain her up.
and its not kangs trying 2 b ideal bahu. its her nature in normal self which has cum out as she got treated.not even once she shouted or screamed like viv during argument.she listened 2 ravi & agreed but where she felt disagreement she clearly told him and even during argument wen ravi gestured her 2 not 2 exaggerate the thing she went quiet. ithink kangs is more balanced than viv in her normal state.
and viv & guddi r alike.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: Peacelover15



Sujata should take things in her hands now.She should dictate Vividha that KK can't stay at their house.And if Vividha is so damn concerned she herself should take care of kk not Uma.I am also not pleased with the fact the way they have forgiven Guddi and now kangana is trying to be ideal bahu.And all this for what?So in their comparison Vividha still looks tolerable to us.But I personally don't like any 3 of them and surely guys deserved better



Cvs failed to show this show (jndsd) as a family drama. writers are completely out of plot. Cant they handle two separate stories in one serial. Its good to see a sepatate story for ravish and vitharv. But they messed up entire storyline.

as,u said atharv /sujatha doesnt deserve all these messed up life. Ravish doesnt deserve an exit from kk like this. ( its a bad part on story). Vividha character doesnt deserve this type of change from cvs. (as it is low blow to storyline). Loyal viewers of jndsd deserve some happy moments from their favs.

yes u have a point. Like how guddi/kangana/ankit acts cannot be excused in the name of whatever to some people. Same way vivi madness on kk cannot be excused in the name of foolish/stupidity to some people.

Like how I cannot ok with guddi/ankit crimes on vitharv in past. Ravish fans cannot stay calm with vividha madness of keeping kk in home (as it costs a life). Both fandoms are not pleased with this plot in any angle.

but my opinion is dont call vividha with those names. Coz if u (not you, but who called her) think vividha deserve those names then suman, guddi and kangana are not at all exceptional. In long running serials, character sketch can be changed according to plots/tracks. So iam not interested in all these bashings matters. ( my opinion).

Also fans tolerence depends on their favs. As iam a vitharv fan, I want to see regret from vividha side badly, atharv need to set her mind and heart straight. but at this point, many people(including me) tolerence came to zero becoz of this meaningless tracks.

I think cvs are purposely came up with this track so that everyone gonna hate this show so that they can end it abruptly. For cvs supporting characters are like statues of their script.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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CVS Never Showed How Atharv Developed His "BROTHERLY AFFECTIONS" For Ravish. Never Explored That Angle. So I Really Dont Know What To Say About Atharv Caring For Ravish.
Never Showed Any Proper Track Of BROTHERS! Like Seriously?
Ravish Ka I Can Understand Because We Saw How Slowly He Developed That "Responsiblity" Feeling To "Brother" Affection But Thats Not The Case With Atharv.
So I Cannot Get Connected To Atharv Brother Affections!

Vividha. Is She Really An Inspiring Lead? Never! She Is The Most Annoying Lead Out There!
I Mean Now We Are Used To This Concept "Girl Falls For Her Sweet Hubby After Marriage Even Though She Was In Love With Someone Else!" But When You Hear That Girl Is Not Going To Fall For Hubby But Will Remain Loyal To Her First Love And Will Get Back With Him So Yeah It Sounds Pretty Much Inspiring Type..Like Its Right Why Should One Stay In Loveless Marriage Its Better To Walk Out Of It. Nice Thought!
But When I See Vividha And Her Ways Of Walking Out Of This Marriage I Am Stunned With Disgust! What She Did To Ravish And How Badly She Used Him Can Be Inspiring? Heck No!
So For Me She Can Never Be A Lead Worthy Of Rememberence!
All She Does Is Shout. Scream. Accusse. Talk Crap.
When People Are With You She Is Goody Goody And The Moment They Oppose Her She Behaves Patheticly With Them!
Her Stupidity Is Going To Cost Someone His Life. Is This What A Lead Is About?
Yeah Being Flawed Is Acceptable But Being Downright Pathetic Is Not.
First She Wants Favour And Expects None To Remind Her About Those Favours!
But When Someone Does She Says Whats The Use Of Those Favours If You've Reminded Me About Them.
Like Seriously? Such A Pathetic Mentality!
Matlab Saare Favours Lo. Sab Karo. Phir Ussi Insaan Ko Accuse Karo Aur Phir Jab Banda Tumhe Muh Tod Jawab De Toh Yeh Bologi Ke Kya Faida Un Ehsaano Ka.
It Shows That Isko Kadr Nahi Hai Logo Ki.
Being Selfish Is Fine To Some Extent. Also Flawed.
But Itna Bhi Nahi That In All Situations First Things That Comes To Your Mind Is "I Me Mtself"
She Doesnt Even Respect Her Mom Or Sujata.
When Her Mom Said That To Give Her Marriage A Chance What She Did She Walked Out Of It.
Now She This Pathetic Lady Is Asking That Same Person "AAP UNKI PATNI HAI" Even When Uma Tells About Her About HER fear.
LIKE SERIOUSLY?
She And Her Obsession To Madhav.
Matlab Isko Dono Chahiye.
To Ravish She Said None Can Take Away Your Right Of Being Maddy's Dad. I Promise You.
And what She Does After Atharv Comes Back?
Walk Back On Her Words And Expects Everything To Go According To Her Wishes!
When It Comes Her Turn She Screams About Meine Kitna Kuch Saha..Mein Hi Madhav Ki Maa Hoon..I Dont Care Who Gave Birth To Madhav.
So Basically She Applies Some Rules On Other But When Its Time For Her To Follow Those Rules She Applies The Opposite Rules In Her Case.
Well To Atharv. She Always Scream At Him.
Is This What Empowerment Is? Screaming?
In My Dictionary It Means Becoming Strong. Trying To Take Right Decisions. But All She Does Is Accuse. Scream. Talk Crap.
So Atharv's Empowerment Classes Failed Big Time!
The Way She Is Ignoring Khushi. Gets Irratated At Her Antics.. Shows Her "Mamta"!

She Is Definetly Not A Good Daughter!
She Is Definetly Not A Good Friend To Ravish.
She Is Definetly Not A Good Mother
And Wife Well I Dunno About That
A Good Human Being? Bandi Doesnt Respect Anyone. Wants Everyone To Dance On Her Tunes. Show Her Ungli When Someone Gives Her Reality Check. Never Thinks About Anyone Above Herself. Its All About Me. My Wishes. My Life!
Frankly It Sucks!
I Cant Imagine Doing The Stuff That Vividha Has Done. Being Nasty To People Around You. Promising Fake Lies. Being Nasty To My Mother. Ordering Around Everyone!
And I Am Selfish Too. Mean Too And Definetly Not A Saint But Thinking About This Makes Me Feel Thank God I Am Not Even An Inch Like Her..

A Lead Inspires You Or Tell You That You Can Do Good Things.
But It Never Tells You To Be Such A Pathetic Person.

Vividha's Characterisation Is Disgusting. Makers Screwed Up Everything!
I Just Wish I Never Get To See A Lead Like Her In Future!


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: maria13

Atharva will never leave Vividha for Ravish because does he even care for Ravish? He and Vividha will not cry at Ravish's death because someone beloved died they will cry now who will fulfill their wishes and whom they will torture.i don't want this Ajmer family even near Ravish funeral Some one should kick them out They don't deserve to be there They are his murderers .



I wish Kangna keeps them away from him and also do the funeral herself. They dont have a right to do so... least of all Atharva...let him go like a dog wagging his tail, behind Vividha in jail.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiny15

i don't think attu will leave viv. he mite b angry learning upon truth but won't leave.

and attu don't care abt ravi its clear.he went 2 border not 4 ravi but 4 viv. wen he 1st learnt abt ravi kidnapping he was only consoling suman then he came 2 know viv went 2 kashmir 2 bring back ravi(tho she also went 2 prove herself innocent. rembr suman blamed her 4 it & she said i"ll prove myself innocent)so his 1st words were viv chose ravi & i m going back 2 home .its suman who got angry on him & reminded all ravi did 4 him & in ravi's crisis hes not helping him.then he went 2 rescue ravi.
and wen he reached there he asked viv 2 return & let the army do the work but she was adamant(as she'd said that she will prove herself innocent) so he stayed 4 viv.
it was not bcoz he cared or luved him.it was bcoz of suman & viv oderwise he was ready 2 go back 2 home.
and attu during guddi case never tried 2 know ravi's feelings. he was angry on ravi thatswhy both husbby-wife were bad mouthing him wen he mrd kangana.
he only thot abt guddi not abt ravi.
he din't question him directly but his behaviour clearly showed he only cared 4 himself or viv not even his mom.

attu din't taunt ravi 4 suman bcoz suzy killed suman & ravi defended suzy in court & gave witness in favour of suzy.if attu does this or had taunted abt suman then he wud b worst ckt.
and yes saying u r my bro, family is not impt but how u perceive & accept it is.but nowhere from attu's beaviour or actions had ever proved that he even care 4 ravi leave alone luv.he says sumthingelse at a time then behave sumthing difft nxt moment.

even now if he"ll try 2 find out truth abt ravi's murderer it"ll b 4 viv not justice 4 ravi. nor he"ll avenge 4 ravi's death.

and ravi clearly said he wanted leave family not bcoz he wanted 2 but bcoz of viv behaviour & oder members helplessness.he said wen our own ppl r not wid us & r not 4 us then its better 2 leave.but knagna knew that ravi luvs his family & bro a lot. he won't b happy w/o them even if they r ehsaan faramosh of no.1.



In Guddi's case, all 3 accepted that Ravish has soft corner for Kangna, yet they wanted to force Guddi down his throat, such an awesome brotherly love they showed.

Attu never even stopped Vividha once from insulting RAvish, where he will cry for Ravish... even if he does, it will be fake crocodile tears.

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