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nemo316

@nemo316

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

This post is with regards to some posts in VJ AT.

While one may disagree with other people's opinions, there is no need to mock them or to consider them less worthy than one's own. Can't people just agree to disagree and if you don't like some people's views to just ignore them. The forum is a place for all views even those you think are stupid.

I can't see what's the aim of sarcastic posts mocking other members' views except to pick up fights. It surely does not encourage a healthy respectful discussion. It's just a show and if you need to get out of your way to rile others up, then may be the problem is in you and not them.

Edited by meshmesh - 8 years ago

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Eatifi

@Eatifi

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

@meshmesh...

I get you dear,I get you...

We all out here are Udaan fans,and more prominently Sukorians...but I think its not the makers,it is we that are separating Sukor..

Why is it so,if a person is trying to give justification or defend Suraj's actions,he or she is bound to bash Chakor at it.

Or if a person is taking Chakor's side and praising her,it seems incomplete without bashing Suraj at it...

Why???

Why are we so stubborn in our views, we all are so strongly opinionated and judgemental,that we have left no room in our minds,to give a second thought on any topic,or at least for a second try to view things in a different light altogether...

P.S-I am a Suraj and Sukor fan,that does not mean that I dislike Chakor or her actions.

Sukor is that one kind of rare relationship where,the two have given each other,space and liberty to be as they are...no demands,no conditions,no questioning or reasoning.its just that their relationship is going through a bad phase,but things will be sorted out soon,and none is to be blamed between the two.

I believe that in such kind of relationship, no one is wrong,each is right in its own way, only the circumstances are wrong.

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sriarshi

@sriarshi

Dazzler

+ 4

Posted: 8 years ago

Agree with u completely yar!

Actually so many people r sticking to AT because of negativity in d main forum!

But sad thing is this just a hard time fr Sukor.. So u can criticize any character which u don't like.. But this is nt criticism too much negativity.. The kind of words they r using.. After all this is just a serial!

Moreover some people taking advantage separating sukorians in d forum just fr their advantage! This is hard time fr Sukor.. It doesn't mean all bash suraj like hell..what happens when Suraj come out of this.. Sukor wil definitely unite..but after that what we wil do? If we bash our favorite pair like this want separation.. No one respect them..othr people definitely take advantage make posts fr other couples!

We Sukorians doing deliberately and putting down our own pair.. Moreover how much we mock no character is responsible.. Cv's r responsible fr this track!

Actually surprised people r in to so much negativity no one r even making posts fr creative writers! They r bashing suraj, imli kind a way that they both r writing their story!

People who r coming to AT just mocking nevr happened before.. Bec of one person may few people r inspired... But soon people knw what kind of person he is! We r nt liking few negative posts avoiding them! U guy's also can avoid AT! Thanks

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nimmi

@Banjaaran25

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 8 years ago

totally agree Meshmesh.
everybody is entitled to their views good, bad or ugly provided their views are limited to the fictional show, characters and actors.

AT is a place meant for appreciating your favourite, catching up with friends and having a happy time in general.

but let us be absolutely honest... in VJ AT.. other characters were mocked, actors were trashed for their off screen conduct, members were ridiculed, taunted and snide remarks were freely passed at everyone who shared different opinions.
i dunno if it stopped. if yes.. then THANK YOU. let AT be the happy place it is meant to be not a place to settle agendas. and this goes for BOTH sides. for and against.

no one deserves to be question, mocked or judged for liking/disliking show and characters.

Yes SuKor are end game. does that mean we MUST like everything that Su and Kor do? if destination is set... are we supposed to be ok no nevermind how horrid the journey is? because i care for journey more than destination.

the very people who used to post happy threads, write stories, analyze the characters with calmness and smiles are the ones who turned urrmmm 'Negative'. so maybe... maybe there is indeed something wrong with the story and the characters. maybe people can't make themselves sing Kumbaya anymore.

This is a discussion forum. good, bad, ugly/positive, negative, ghastly.. all views are welcome provided they don't break forum rules.

bashing... he/she is ... A-hole/jerk/s**t/bitch/should die etc etc.
criticism... he/she is wrong/shouldn't have done this/disappointing.. etc etc.

may be we all should make peace with the fact that not everyone will share our same perceptions and sentiments.

this is a discussion forum not a shrine and hence even the most negative views are and should be allowed to be expressed.

ATs are meant for love and appreciation.

and if anyone who breaks the rule .. report. Yuvika is a capable mod. but she might be busy at this time of year. then escalate the matter to global mods.

hate to sound like moral police or forum nanny... but i think people should let other people be. both positive and negative.
the forum will die a slow and painful death otherwise.

IGNORE the posts that hurt your sentiments. shouldn't be that difficult. we ignore the ones that we don't concur with. try it for your own sanity. end of the day this is just a serial. real people shouldn't get hurt over it.

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nemo316

@nemo316

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

Hi Nimmi,

I can't vouch for all posts but the tone there has generally been good and most importantly respectful.

I've read posts that are critical of Suraj and I've written very mild criticism of him there. Criticism is not the issue, the issue is making fun of other members. The first time it happened I addressed the post's content and we engaged in a discussion and everything was fine, then this happened again. It didn't feel to me like an attempt to engage in a discussion so I decided that before it turns into a trend to remind everyone of our peaceful coexistence and our mutual respect for each other.

I know the track is horrible and emotions are running high. It's already stressful and there is no need to increase that. Again it's not the criticism that's the problem, it's mocking other's views.

Thankfully, so far things have been going on relatively peacefully in the forum, there are very few instances that warrants reporting. Other than that, I disagree with some choice of words (every time I read the term Suraj's mistress it's like a stab to my heart), but I understand people's frustration, I know that I'm overreacting and that I don't have a right to police people's thoughts, so I can't complain.

Hey guys if you've read this post can you please read my next post. It's my clumsy attempt to understand how we have more that unite us than we think.

Edited by meshmesh - 8 years ago

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nemo316

@nemo316

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

Hi Rabia and Siri

The fact is everyone here is so attached to Suraj and Sukor. It's their love that makes their anger and frustration so high. They feel helpless seeing their dreams shattered and their love tarnished (just like Chakor if you think of it). People are not blaming CVs because of their attachment to the characters, they are somehow real.

Some people view things from Chakor's perspective and some side with Suraj. The wound is raw and that's why it's a black and white issue for many, this is made worse by the uncertainty about the future; we don't know how long the track will go on or what new hell will CVs subject us to. When you're hurt so much it becomes difficult to see things from someone else's perspective, but that's why we should be more careful when engaging with people we disagree with.

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nimmi

@Banjaaran25

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: meshmesh
Hi Nimmi,
I can't vouch for all posts but the tone there has generally been good and most importantly respectful.

I've read posts that are critical of Suraj and I've written very mild criticism of him there. Criticism is not the issue, the issue is making fun of other members. The first time it happened I addressed the post's content and we engaged in a discussion and everything was fine, then this happened again. It didn't feel to me like an attempt to engage in a discussion so I decided that before it turns into a trend to remind everyone of our peaceful coexistence and our mutual respect for each other.

I know the track is horrible and emotions are running high. It's already stressful and there is no need to increase that. Again it's not the criticism that's the problem, it's mocking other's views.

Thankfully, so far things have been going on relatively peacefully in the forum, there are very few instances that warrants reporting. I disagree with some choice of words (every time I read the term Suraj's mistress it's like a stab to my heart), but I understand people's frustration, I know that I'm overreacting and that I don't have a right to police people's thoughts, so I can't complain.

Hey guys if you've read this post can you please read my next post. It's my clumsy attempt to understand how we have more that unite us than we think.

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Sorry meshmesh.
i posted my opinions on DDT thread and in direct retaliation those opinions were ridiculed mind you not debated but outright mocked in the VJ AT.
ditto for other bashers opinions too. i can dig out the links if needed. so pardon me if i disagree. no offense but i for one don't feel too charitable about the past.
not visiting the AT so dunno what is happening there now but past was simply distasteful and off putting.

we reacted and retaliated when we and our opinions were personally taunted. don't get me started on snide remarks.

but even then.. i will say NO member deserves to be made fun of irrespective of their opinions in public platform.

mutual respect is a beautiful concept.

a genuine question to the members complaining about negativity?
have you ever seen US begrudging positivity? do we question you as to why you still support Suraj? why everything looks sunshiny when the Rome is clearly burning?

We DON'T. because we truly believe in freedom of speech. good, bad and ugly.

sorry i don't want to take your beautiful post off tangent.. merely clearly ALL the issues.

if we want to co-exist and maintain peaceful atmosphere ACCEPT that EVERYONE should be allowed to say out what they feel as long as no forum rules are broken.

NO ONE has any right to dictate as to how those opinions should be.
positive.
negative.
or downright ghastly.

you have a different opinion... Ignore, discuss or debate.

STOP dictating.
and dissing.

NO ONE should have to feel sorry and apologetic for holding an opinion.

and yes.. i have seen a single person posting multiple threads of mindless rage and hatred.
a word of wise... Do NOT feed the troll.

so that's it. it is not a single person or a single group's responsibility to maintain forum peace. it is a collective effort.

so try and be less judgemental about real people.
let us limit our harsh opinions on fictional show and characters.

sorry meshmesh if i offended you in whatsoever way.
and once again.. wonderful post and gesture.