Beyhadh Frustration & Confusion Hai Bhaiya

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beyhadhfc2017

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Posted: 8 years ago

OK guys this is my 2nd post on this forum, I love Beyhadh for its unique story-line & a fresh pairing (Kushal-Jennifer, Piyush-Aneri). Bear with me as some people will be butt-hurt by it and some will kind of agree with me.

IS MAYA BEMAAR OR BURI?

Well that is a very complex question to ask, depending on who you're asking on behalf of... We know that nothing is entirely black or white, but the shades of both colors combined, "There's a Yin in every Yang" that's what I believe in, a bad thing has a little drop of good in it, and vice versa. So calling Maya "evil" is something that is entirely subjective & not something that can be answered with a yes or no. So I'll bring a logical & scientific analysis in this. There is a certain criteria of being "evil" in psychiatry:

1. A sociopath (which Maya definitely is) may or may not be evil, our society & those horrendous, gore-filled movies have changed the way we look at anti-social people. We think of them as monsters and war-mongers, which is so not the case, there are loads of sociopaths in the world who are peaceful and obedient citizens of the society. Maya of course isn't a peaceful citizen, she doesn't abide by the laws. But is she really evil? Lets see...

2. An "Evil" person in psychiatry is said to be someone who commits illegal or immoral acts in their complete conscious state, and doesn't feel remorse or guilt about it, he knows the consequences, he knows the results, and yet decides to do it. He is afraid of the consequences, mind you, but he decides to deal with it later on. While a sociopath clearly is void of any feelings, they have very little empathy and that is limited to "exceptions" that they have made (exceptions may include a certain number of family members or friends).

3. Maya on the other hand:

a. Doesn't fear consequences (she's void of those feelings)

b. Doesn't think twice before hurting herself

c. She's delusional, she thinks she's protecting Arjun from the "cruel" world while she's the one who is torturing him day in and day out

d. She has no sense of judgement (she thinks its OK to make your husband drink that scalding water) cause you want him to be "healthy" W*F?

e. She thinks that just about everyone is trying to separate Arjun from her specially Saanjh, while the girl has no intentions at all of doing so

f. An evil person would rather a person be harmed before they're harmed in order to get what they want, while Maya constantly harms herself, instead of harming Arjun first, just to get what she wants.

4. Does Maya fit the profile? Lets see:

a. No sense of remorse? Nope, Maya does seem to feel guilty from time to time when she's hurting her "exceptions" (Refer to today's episode, where she says it hurts her to hurt people who Arjun loves, and yesterday's where she did realize that she has to change her ways)

b. Fear of death or further consequences? Nope, Maya doesn't fear death or any end results at all, due to her sociopathy (Refer to her being ready to fall off 15th floor when Arjun threatened to leave her)

c. Harming people instead of risking your own well-being? Nope, Maya actually tries to harm herself first before harming other people (Refer to her committing suicide multiple times when Arjun or Jhanvi tried to leave her)

d. Being in total control of your impulses and emotions while committing the crime? Nope, we've seen how psycho Maya gets when she commits a crime, also she's not in control of her impulses, she'd do what she wants, without giving it a second thought, whatever she does is when she's in the state of psychosis, that is: During an episode of psychosis (Refer to her pulling the handbrake of the car just to get help from Arjun, & to her trying to save Arjun on that isolated Island, her trying to save her mum, despite of not knowing how to swim)

Hence proved that Maya is suffering from a mental illness. & this isn't to say that what she's done is justified, NEVER, she must be punished if found guilty, if she's guilty, but the fact of the matter is that a mentally ill criminal will end up in a mental asylum or mental rehab centre instead of a prison.

VERDICT: Maya isn't evil, she suffers from psychosis in accordance to psychiatry & medical science

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Posted: 8 years ago

Maya is like Hannibal Lecter. She comes under multiple different psych profiles that it's hard to fit her into one universally accepted blanket parlance in psychiatry😆

After framing Ayaan up for a crime he didn't commit, I'd say she's evil with a broken moral compass.

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beyhadhfc2017

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: CaputDraconis
Maya is like Hannibal Lecter. She comes under multiple different psych profiles that it's hard to fit her into one universally accepted blanket parlance in psychiatry😆
After framing Ayaan up for a crime he didn't commit, I'd say she's evil with a broken moral compass.

"Evil with a broken moral compass..." Well that's acceptable, but science wouldn't call that person "evil" either, cause a broken moral compass is due to a mental health illness. I am a mental health patient so I know such stuff 😛😉

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Posted: 8 years ago

Good post, good effort! 👍🏼 Everything's been written and explained well but personally, I do not think that Maya's a sociopath. Some of her character traits do match with that of a sociopath but the conditions/traits of a psychopath describe and match her character a lot better.

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beyhadhfc2017

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: .annihilation.
Good post, good effort! 👍🏼 Everything's been written and explained well but personally, I do not think that Maya's a sociopath. Some of her character traits do match with that of a sociopath but the conditions/traits of a psychopath describe and match her character a lot better.

thank you! I think Maya is borderline-psychopath, she doesn't meet the criteria of a psychopath entirely, a psychopath doesn't feel humane emotions, they just mimic them, if you meet a psychopathin their true form you will realize that these people are cold as f, and they won't engage in any conversations with you, moreover a psychopath will never feel guilt and remorse, while a sociopath does feel guilt and remorse to a little extent

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annihilation

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: beyhadhfc2017
thank you! I think Maya is borderline-psychopath, she doesn't meet the criteria of a psychopath entirely, a psychopath doesn't feel humane emotions, they just mimic them, if you meet a psychopathin their true form you will realize that these people are cold as f, and they won't engage in any conversations with you, moreover a psychopath will never feel guilt and remorse, while a sociopath does feel guilt and remorse to a little extent

The thing is, I don't think the writers have written Maya's character keeping a certain specific mental illness/personality disorder in mind. They probably just threw things in together as each episode went by and like CaputDraconis said, Maya's basically a hotchpotch of multiple disorders put together. So, to classify under one specific condition is difficult. Going by what I have understood of Maya's character, she matches the description of a psychopath to a greater degree and accuracy. Psychopath, say, 80% and sociopath say 50-60%. Also, Maya rarely feels any guilt or remorse for her actions, imo.

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FreeTheNipple

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Posted: 8 years ago

Excellent analysis, I am not an expert on these terminologies but looks a reasonable interpretation to me. 👍🏼

I just finished last two episodes and I found them interesting because the makers are clearly trying to put two perspectives out, whether Maya is psychotic or she is inherently evil. Of course, it is hard to choose one of them. With time, her situation has only aggravated, thanks to the insecurities which she has about her precarious husband, Arjun. This has left her culpable for many inhumane activities.

In my opinion, choosing the second option as a standalone choice is grossly incorrect. Although Vandana is firmly sticking to this camp. Of course, she is clouded by her own initial judgement and superstitions and is only concerned for the well being of her son.

While Arjun, on other hand, opines that she needs help.

I was kind of taken aback today because I had made up my mind that the CVs were trying hard to establish without any doubt that Maya is evil. But then we have recent episodes, where they decided to make Arjun atleast reflect on the idea of Maya being ill and tried to make the audience ponder about the Maya's situation from medical perspective. What was Arjun doing for all these years? 😕 This guy is so slow.

Maya's conversation with Jhanvi and then Vandana was heartfelt according to me. Although Vandana refuses to even reflect on what she says, it felt to me as if Maya spoke her heart out. For the first time, it seemed to me as if she was completely aware of her problems and insecurities and was trying hard to seek approval from someone else. She needed assurance from her mother in law that she was not a bad person and is good enough to be her daughter in law. She was desperately asking for the antidote to the poison which is killing her softly. I think at that moment, everyone can discern that she is having some serious psychiatric problems unless of course, makers want us to see that she can act like a completely innocent soul while clearly not being so.

But then again, what caused her mental problems to deteriorate to such an extent when Arjun was all hers for 3 years? What did Arjun do in these years? Maya's remorse for her actions came at a very awkward time when I was beginning to believe that Cvs will not think about scientific aspects but just the drama of it. Confused. 😕

Edited by dexter3108 - 8 years ago

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MistyDawn

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Posted: 8 years ago

This whole area of anti-social personality disorder can confuse the best of researchers in the field because eventhough sociopathy and pschycopathy have their own own distinct and unique characteristics, there is a considerable overlap.. My limited understanding says that while psychopathy is largely inherited ( genetically ), sociopathy is acquired.. Of whatever we saw of Maya's biological parents, she seems to have inherited part of the disorder making her a psychopath..the environment in which she grew up also seems to be far from normal so a lot of the characteristics she shows may have been acquired too,making her a sociopath too.. so yeah, in that sense she is a bit of both, which part dominates and when could be a matter of debate. Now evil, is an altogether different subject.. Both sociopaths and psychopaths can commit crimes, unintentionall or with proper planning, with or without remorse, so in that sense they both can be ''evil''..

Great post btw! 👏

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