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Today I will like to play the neutral card and yes I will. Suck at it as every other person in history ... But its my right as a fan to TRY...😉...

So I want to talk about a particular scene from yesterdays' episode...

The second to the last one scene...

First let me state my reasons ... Why the other scenes made me very angry ...

Vv said she wanted to go she stated her reasons ...

Every decision in her life was taken away from her or made for her ...

But she had hope and her hope was atharva and yet he was taken away from her , atharva was her choice , he was her decision ... But still dadaji and her father took him away from her ...

All because that's not the choice THEY wanted ... It has never been about vv but the people who want to control her and make her live her life according to them ...

Because why couldn't vv's choice be ravish ... Vv herself can't explain that to you other than the fact that her soul just knew atharva was the one for her ..


She has reached a point where she doesn't want to live , but she HAS to ... And again a decision not made by her ...

So after all the pain and torment she finally says , let my try and gain control of my life ,let me pretend that I know what is happening or where am going in this world ... And she made the decision.


To live as a widow and to leave that house , because fact will remain , it will be unhealthy for them to see her as a widow because they all still expect SOO much from her ...

They still expect her to play "wife", for ravish ... And no matter how many times she says , I love atharva , I can't love ravish , no one paid attention ...

Hence the stupid idiotic surprise faces when she said okay to the divorce ...

I mean


This girl was half way out the door and were still surprised she wants a divorce




When suman asked about the stairs thing , vv gave her answer and honest and straight forward answer ...

But still suman , was stuck on insulting vv... I feel like all those reasons she gave vv where also the reasons she (su) stayed in her marriage and the fact that she is stupid , worshiped RK and also loved him ...

It failed for suman , but she STILL wants her son and vv to go through it ... 😡

It was all still about her and her son ... Vv stated her feelings , but it seem no one will listen because "WHAT ABOUT RAVISH"

Even though she has said ", Ravish is a very nice man, trust me, I always felt sad when I did not become his wife, I did not become a good bahu which you all wanted, he deserves a better wife.".

" find a good life partner, its my fate that I lost my love, you did not get late, so I want to free you from this relation, so that you get such love which I could not give you."


They still they wanted more ...

What vv wanted didn't matter , why should it , its her role as a woman to sacrifice her own soul for the happiness of others ...


Vv wanted to live life as atharva's widow , and to give ravish life decided to sign and move away ...

But sujata atharva's mother sets up a plan ... This woman with suman finally took us to that trap... There is a reason for the unmarrying ceremony and we all know why ...

Ravish said something about commitment , but I wonder didn't he commit to marrying atharva together or was it a command ... Didn't he promise to help unite them and accept their love...

Or does that promise/commitment he made no longer count because Atharva is now dead ... How easily he forgot I while still mourning said brother ...

He is committed by his heart , but her heart it broken ... Isn't a marriage suppose to be of two willing people ...

Why is his commitment and his heart more important than vv's commitment to atharva and her broken heart ...




Which brings me to the scene I want to talk about ...

This scene to me was (forgetting everything and focusing on the now) my most genuine ravish and vividha scene ...

In this scene there was no lies and all the cards as far as we know where on the table ...

Ravish knew how vv felt and vv knew how he felt ...

Vv knew that ravish loved him ..

And vv knew that ravish knew that she knew ...

Ravish knew that vv knew that he knew that she knew that he loved her ...

And vv knew that ravish knew that she knew that he knew that she knew that he loved her ...
( I challenge someone to explain^^ 😃)


In simple english ...

Ravish knew how vv felt and vv knew how he felt ...

For the first time they had a conversation with all their cards on the table ...


While most people were all about vv or ravish , I was looking at two people who if life was perfect should have been happy ... I saw two hopeless and lost people ...

Vv's questions broke my heart ,

Ravish expected her to explain , but she herself did not understand life ...

Why did all this happen to them , why isn't life as simple as the fairy tales ,

Why can't two people who love each other love each other , why should their. Love depend on this fandom , why should their love depend on the society ...

Why weren't vitharv allowed to own their love , why did she fall in love with atharva , why did they get married , why where they happy if all that was to be taken away and why did they again find each other just to loose AGAIN...


Vv has lost everything , she has nothing left in her to give , this lifeless person isn't her , how and when did that fun loving lif girl become is empty vessel ..m these where questions she too wanted explained to her ...


Yes they all made it a point to guilt trip her and be all about what they did for her and favors and all but what was the point ...

If she could give ravish what he wanted she would , but she has nothing left to give , she was empty and her heart was dying slowly and for but of them not to die together ravish had to let her go ...

That marriage to ravish might have being , with the woman he loves , but to her she was chained , chained to remember that she couldn't give them what they wanted and caged to be alive but dead inside ... And ravish right now was the one refusing to free her ...

But one thing I love too was ravish's honesty , he wasn't refusing because he couldn't its because he didn't want to ...

No one is ever really ready and willing to let go of someone they love ...

This man just lost his brother , he just failed in keeping one promise , the one he made to his father and now the woman he loved was about to leave him too ...

Another promise his heart made was about to be broken ... We are all capable of doing anything , its just that are we strong enough ... Is he strong enough to lose another person in his life ... Vv might be freeing herself but to ravish again he is loosing again he is being left behind , by his brother by his father and know by his wife ...
And don't forget he also lost his grand father ...


But it could never be true happiness , when the person he was caging desperately wanted to be set free ...

And again he realised that while he didn't want to let go , he couldn't make vv love him by forcing her to stay ...

And just as he wiped her tears , vv's face spoke volumes ...

Her face made you ready for tomorrow ...she was asking herself , if I have nothing to live for why don't you become the reason for others to live ...

The look she gave him made you realize , she will sacrifice something again...

And ravish with the mirror scene actually was my best ravish moment , I've been there when you give yourself a pep talk in the mirror ... Him trying to smile , because there is nothing he can do , they all lost ... A wedding is suppose to be happy ...

Inside the entire episode , the emotion of this particular scene broke my heart ...


Am sure some of us have been there , when all you want to do is cry and you tell your self suck it up , put on your big girl/boy pants and smile , but when you smile your smile looks like shit ...

And the worst part is you are really trying you best , you are doing the right thing , so you feel even worst for crying because this is not what your heart wants ...


Well inside the entire episode with all the self pitying from everyone this character for once made me feel for him ,

And bi-cha-chas ^^ was my attempt at being neutral ... Some of you should take notes ...


I can only claim the blue part ...

Now to part three...

As we all know vv is not going to go through with this , they will not divorce or unmarry...

Vividha kayshap is about to make a decision in her life based on self sacrifice ... For once she is going to tell herself that , I can do this ... If I cn stop this pain why not , she will ignore the feeling of being trapped of being empty and be the person everyone needs her to be ...

I feel the decision will be mainly for ravish ... This guy is oozing heart break...
And vv is about to forget hers and look at his ... But am guessing this won't be enough .. For ravish fans or for atharva fans..

But I remember a question would you stand by vv... Well guess what its time to answers ..m will you stand by vv ..m

Will you stand by this girl who has lost everything , and finally thinks this( not leaving) is the choice she is suppose to make ... Its time to stand by your vv whispa ... Its time ...

Its time for all those fights to come to play ... Today or tomorrow you will get you first test ...


Yes she is being manipulated , yes she is not emotionally stable to decide , she needed time she needs time to put her life together , hence her leaving the vashisht ... But remember vv has never been giving anything ... She thinks this decision is hers but , its a trap that was set by none other than sujata ...

Yes its disturbing yes it makes you so angry you want to hit someone 🤬...

But forget all the technicalities ... Are You ready to stand by vividha ... Are you ready for the fact that just when she has lost her will to fight anymore atharva sujata will comeback ...

To the knowledge that his soul mate gave up on him , that she with nothing left chooses his brother ... That after all this fighting to be with her vividha gave up and gave into all this pressure ...


Are YOU ... Ready to stand by vividha kayshap ...

Vv made a badly informed choice and the one thing to remember this time is this ...atharva once told her I will never come between you and your choice ...


The one thing I hate more than self pitying , is self sacrifice... She is in so much pain , but will prefer dying everyday tan see others in pain ...

I personally HATE it . With an undyig passion 😡... And I myself can't say I can answer this question...

Ps: we all know her choice was to leave the vashist , but all the guilt tripping isn't helping .. 😊 and since the MS is not gone then that can mean many things , so the above is just hypothetical...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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res need time to read this 😃 will get back after today's episode
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Res.will come after watching today's epi :)
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LOL ... I know we don't all agree with ravish , but I for once tried looking at this sole from ravish , I put aside my feelings , and my friends feelings and tried to understand what that character might be feeling ... I might be right or wrong ... but I hope the blue was plain and straight forward enough ...
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I loved this kells ... but its too much to consume in one read ...
Will read again and come bcak ...In the meanwhile we would have watched the episode 😊
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Kelly 👏 u have truly been neutral.
I'm surprised u r asking this question. Vividha all her life has been manipulated by her father. To the level that she thought he is doing everything for her well being while we know he did what he did for his selfish reasons.

We stood by vivi when she married ravish.


Same way today again she is being manipulated. EVEN if she decides to sacrifice her life for ravish she won't be able to give her 100 percent. And we know suman will want her to give 100 percent . It's going to be a very tough ride for her. They won't even let her mouth in peace.

And once she sees atharv she is gonna come running to him.

So to me there is no difference.

She was married to R when she saw atharv and came running to him. Today if she chooses to live with R and if atharv comes she is going to do the same.


Their is no difference actually. It ll only increase R's heartbreak. Coz we know atharv gonna come and vivs gonna go back.

I ll support viv. It's her life. Her choice
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Originally posted by: Africanqueenkel

Today I will like to play the neutral card and yes I will. Suck at it as every other person in history ... But its my right as a fan to TRY...😉...

So I want to talk about a particular scene from yesterdays' episode...

The second to the last one scene...

First let me state my reasons ... Why the other scenes made me very angry ...

Vv said she wanted to go she stated her reasons ...

Every decision in her life was taken away from her or made for her ...

But she had hope and her hope was atharva and yet he was taken away from her , atharva was her choice , he was her decision ... But still dadaji and her father took him away from her ...

All because that's not the choice THEY wanted ... It has never been about vv but the people who want to control her and make her live her life according to them ...

Because why couldn't vv's choice be ravish ... Vv herself can't explain that to you other than the fact that her soul just knew atharva was the one for her ..


She has reached a point where she doesn't want to live , but she HAS to ... And again a decision not made by her ...

So after all the pain and torment she finally says , let my try and gain control of my life ,let me pretend that I know what is happening or where am going in this world ... And she made the decision.


To live as a widow and to leave that house , because fact will remain , it will be unhealthy for them to see her as a widow because they all still expect SOO much from her ...

They still expect her to play "wife", for ravish ... And no matter how many times she says , I love atharva , I can't love ravish , no one paid attention ...

Hence the stupid idiotic surprise faces when she said okay to the divorce ...

I mean



This girl was half way out the door and were still surprised she wants a divorce




When suman asked about the stairs thing , vv gave her answer and honest and straight forward answer ...

But still suman , was stuck on insulting vv... I feel like all those reasons she gave vv where also the reasons she (su) stayed in her marriage and the fact that she is stupid , worshiped RK and also loved him ...

It failed for suman , but she STILL wants her son and vv to go through it ... 😡

It was all still about her and her son ... Vv stated her feelings , but it seem no one will listen because "WHAT ABOUT RAVISH"

Even though she has said ", Ravish is a very nice man, trust me, I always felt sad when I did not become his wife, I did not become a good bahu which you all wanted, he deserves a better wife.".

" find a good life partner, its my fate that I lost my love, you did not get late, so I want to free you from this relation, so that you get such love which I could not give you."


They still they wanted more ...

What vv wanted didn't matter , why should it , its her role as a woman to sacrifice her own soul for the happiness of others ...


Vv wanted to live life as atharva's widow , and to give ravish life decided to sign and move away ...

But sujata atharva's mother sets up a plan ... This woman with suman finally took us to that trap... There is a reason for the unmarrying ceremony and we all know why ...

Ravish said something about commitment , but I wonder didn't he commit to marrying atharva together or was it a command ... Didn't he promise to help unite them and accept their love...

Or does that promise/commitment he made no longer count because Atharva is now dead ... How easily he forgot I while still mourning said brother ...

He is committed by his heart , but her heart it broken ... Isn't a marriage suppose to be of two willing people ...

Why is his commitment and his heart more important than vv's commitment to atharva and her broken heart ...




Which brings me to the scene I want to talk about ...

This scene to me was (forgetting everything and focusing on the now) my most genuine ravish and vividha scene ...

In this scene there was no lies and all the cards as far as we know where on the table ...

Ravish knew how vv felt and vv knew how he felt ...

Vv knew that ravish loved him ..

And vv knew that ravish knew that she knew ...

Ravish knew that vv knew that he knew that she knew that he loved her ...

And vv knew that ravish knew that she knew that he knew that she knew that he loved her ...

In simple english ...

Ravish knew how vv felt and vv knew how he felt ...

For the first time they had a conversation with all their cards on the table ...


While most people were all about vv or ravish , I was looking at two people who if life was perfect should have been happy ... I saw two hopeless and lost people ...

Vv's questions broke my heart ,

Ravish expected her to explain , but she herself did not understand life ...

Why did all this happen to them , why isn't life as simple as the fairy tales ,

Why can't two people who love each other love each other , why should their. Love depend on this fandom , why should their love depend on the society ...

Why weren't vitharv allowed to own their love , why did she fall in love with atharva , why did they get married , why where they happy if all that was to be taken away and why did they again find each other just to loose AGAIN...


Vv has lost everything , she has nothing left in her to give , this lifeless person isn't her , how and when did that fun loving lif girl become is empty vessel ..m these where questions she too wanted explained to her ...


Yes they all made it a point to guilt trip her and be all about what they did for her and favors and all but what was the point ...

If she could give ravish what he wanted she would , but she has nothing left to give , she was empty and her heart was dying slowly and for but of them not to die together ravish had to let her go ...

That marriage to ravish might have being , with the woman he loves , but to her she was chained , chained to remember that she couldn't give them what they wanted and caged to be alive but dead inside ... And ravish right now was the one refusing to free her ...

But one thing I love too was ravish's honesty , he wasn't refusing because he couldn't its because he didn't want to ...

No one is ever really ready and willing to let go of someone they love ...

This man just lost his brother , he just failed in keeping one promise , the one he made to his father and now the woman he loved was about to leave him too ...

Another promise his heart made was about to be broken ... We are alll capable of doing anything , its just that are we strong enough ... Is he strong enough to lose another person in his life ... Vv might be freeing herself but to ravish again he is loosing again he is being left behind , by his brother by his father and know by his wife ...
And don't forget he also lost his grand father ...


But it could never be true happiness , when the person he was caging desperately wanted to be set free ...

And again he realised that while he didn't want to let go , he couldn't make vv love him by forcing her to stay ...

And just as he wiped her tears , vv's face spoke volumes ...

Her face made you ready for tomorrow ...she was asking herself , if I have nothing to live for why don't you become the reason for others to live ...

The look she gave him made you realize , she will sacrifice something again...

And ravish with the mirror scene actually was my best ravish moment , I've been there when you give yourself a pep talk in the mirror ... Him trying to smile , because there is nothing he can do , they all lost ... A wedding is suppose to be happy ...

Inside the entire episode , the emotion of this particular scene broke my heart ...


Am sure some of us have been there , when all you want to do is cry and you tell your self suck it up , put on your big girl/boy pants and smile , but when you smile your smile looks like shit ...

And the worst part is you are really trying you best , you are doing the right thing , so you feel even worst for crying because this is not what your heart wants ...


Well inside the entire episode with all the self pitying from everyone this character for once made me feel for him ,

And bi-cha-chas ^^ was my attempt at being neutral ... Some of you should take notes ...


I can only claim the blue part ...

Now to part three...

As we all know vv is not going to go through with this , they will not divorce or unmarry...

Vividha kayshap is about to make a decision in her life based on self sacrifice ... For once she is going to tell herself that , I can do this ... If I cn stop this pain why not , she will ignore the feeling of being trapped of being empty and be the person everyone needs her to be ...

I feel the decision will be mainly for ravish ... This guy is oozing heart break...
And vv is about to forget hers and look at his ... But am guessing this won't be enough .. For ravish fans or for atharva fans..

But I remember a question would you stand by vv... Well guess what its time to answers ..m will you stand by vv ..m

Will you stand by this girl who has lost everything , and finally thinks this( not leaving) is the choice she is suppose to make ... Its time to stand by your vv whispa ... Its time ...

Its time for all those fights to come to play ... Today or tomorrow you will get you first test ...


Yes she is being manipulated , yes she is not emotionally stable to decide , she needed time she needs time to put her life together , hence her leaving the vashisht ... But remember vv has never been giving anything ... She thinks this decision is hers but , its a trap that was set by none other than sujata ...

Yes its disturbing yes it makes you so angry you want to hit someone 🤬...

But forget all the technicalities ... Are You ready to stand by vividha ... Are you ready for the fact that just when she has lost her will to fight anymore atharva sujata will comeback ...

To the knowledge that his soul mate gave up on him , that she with nothing left chooses his brother ... That after all this fighting to be with her vividha gave up and gave into all this pressure ...


Are YOU ... Ready to stand by vividha kayshap ...

Vv made a badly informed choice and the one thing to remember this time is this ...atharva once told her I will never come between you and your choice ...


The one thing I hate more than self pitying , is self sacrifice... She is in so much pain , but will prefer dying everyday tan see others in pain ...

I personally HATE it . With an undyig passion 😡... And I myself can't say I can answer this question...

Ps: we all know her choice was to leave the vashist , but all the guilt tripping isn't helping .. 😊 and since the MS is not gone then that can mean many things , so the above is just hypothetical...



Kells I agree that Ravish would have not letgo if Vivi at first but there is no point continuing a relation like suman where u keep seeing your partner live another person and not you.

@Bold and Red Vivi has been strong and this unwed thing is her price to stay with Atharvas memories and free Ravish from this relation as well as her from her Man ka bhoj and Guilt ki dukaan which she is.

She is not gonna back off ... mark my words.
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Sujata's Effing plan depended ... On vv guilt and her nature of not wanting to hurt others...

😡 imagine such shit...

God have mercy on her ...

Edited by Africanqueenkel - 9 years ago
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kells You have succeeded in your attempt to be neutral👏😆
And yes people should really take notes from you on being Neutral.
However I am not neutral so I can't connect to anything that you mentioned.
Yes he lost his Father, Brother and Grandfather but where was his reaction then?
How many memories must he have shared with his granfather, but there was no reaction, no feeling of betrayal, no questioning, no dissappointment, just absolutely nothing!
I am so sorry no matter how much I try I just cannot bring myself to feel anything at all for this character. But you have justified his situation in a way that else in this forum has!
P.S. I trust my Vivi I don't think she is getting Self Sacrifice mode! and that is one Hypothesis that I don't even want to consider!
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Brilliant. You've summed up everything on both sides of the coin. This is the kind of stuff I wish I saw more often. Definitely one of the best posts i've seen here in a while. 👍🏼
Very nicely written, thank you! 👏
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