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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello all,
I am not a regular member in this forum and neither have I followed the show on a regular basis. Now that the show is finally ending I can see a lot of members blaming the CVs for the poor representation of one of the great historical events that shaped the future. I am not able to understand why that point is being highlighted now. When has this show ever been true to historical facts right from its inception? Why didn't anybody here raise their voice then? 😕

1. Chanakya was much before Asoka's time. Yet everyone seemed to be perfectly OK with this track 😕 Some even termed it as one of the best phases of the show. Why? Just because we had a good actor playing that role? When was it true as per history? Chanakya did not live long enough to even know Asoka's existence let alone mentor him to become one of world's greatest emperors.

2. Coming to Dharma and Bindusara, where is it mentioned that Bindusara met her after he was wounded in a war? Or that she practiced medicine? Or he believed her to be dead when she had given birth to his son who would become his successor? 14 years Asoka stayed away from his legacy living the life of a commoner but nobody complained. Only because Siddharth Nigam did a fantabulous job? 😕 Also when was Rani Dharma Bindusaar's eternal love?

3. Was Asoka really the most loved prince and was Sushim the monster he was portrayed to be? Asoka wanted the throne to fulfill his ambitions not to serve mankind in the name of Akhand Bharat. But almost everyone here seemed to be OK with it coz hey no matter what history says, the hero needs to be the quintessential good guy who is a savior and that was what Sid portrayed. A morally ethical Asoka though that wasn't what was said about Asoka.

4. Coming to one of the best villains in the show - Helena. Was she even a villain for real? 😕 Where is it mentioned she was forced into the marriage? She was in love with Chandragupta Maurya. There is no mention of Justin but for argument's sake we can say Helena had a son called Justin. Or maybe I am not well versed with this part of history (please do pardon me in that case) Nobody had a problem with that. Everyone were happy with that in fact.

5. Was there a princess called Ahankara? We assumed she is another version of Asandamitra. For that matter does history ever mention that Asoka knew any of the women he later married during his childhood days, let alone be his childhood sweetheart? But then Sid and Tunisha looked good and their bond was portrayed well. So teekh hai, ye galati bhi maaf hai 😆

6. Coming to Kaurvaki, she was never a princess but most of us here who have watched Santosh Sivam's version of Asoka, Kaurvaki though not a princess of Kalinga was raised to be one 😕 And for the sake of fictionalizing historical fact it was presented in a manner that Kaurvaki was Asoka's eternal love and Devi just an obligation but in reality Asoka had wooed Devi and married her 😆 But who cares? Everyone wants to believe every other emperor had an eternal love story 🤣 So ye bhi maaf 😆

7. Asoka had as many as 99 step brothers but as per the show we have only two competitors - Sushim and Siamak (of all the 99 brothers CVs had to choose Siamak who probably never even existed or say he did, I am sure he was no secret love child of Bindusaar's non existent Arabian wife and Greek half brother 😆) In the beginning of the leap, Sushim was flanked by a couple of his step brothers who served as his bodyguards but what happened to them later on? They vanished just like they had come. So its 97 less for Asoka now to kill for the throne 🤣

These are some of the points I could think of for the pre leap track and post leap the lesser said the better 😛 But coming to the point, history was already screwed. Did the leap screw it? It probably only added to the long list of mistakes the CVs had already made. Everyone blamed Mohit and Soumya for the dip in TRPs. Mohit is one of the finest actors we have in Indian television lately and the fact that he immortalized Lord Shiva on Indian TV testifies it. Till DKDM we did not have many shows which focused on Lord Shiva unlike Lord Vishnu. I don't think anyone needs to say how good Mohit was. Many of us were excited when the news was first out that Mohit will play Asoka. What was Mohit's fault if CVs handled the storyline poorly? Or if he looked older than Pallavi who played his mother Dhrama? Ageing on screen could be an actor's choice but does this really say much about their professionalism? An actor should become the character whether the character is old or not. I am sure if these actors had to age in a KJo movie they would have no qualms 😆 Not saying this since I am a Mohit fan but I had to make this comment seeing the amount of negativity towards him. And then we have Soumya Seth. I am certainly no huge fan of hers and I openly criticised her for her acting in the early days but she did improve later on. Though not nearly good enough but yet I believe improvement is better than perfection. Coming to Kaurvaki its not her fault if CVs made a khachra out of the character. I am sure she did not ask the CVs to do that. If now everyone wants to say makers screwed Asoka post leap is it fair? From a historical standpoint it was screwed long before that. It would be right to say from a fictional POV it was screwed but the leap did not really screw the historical facts. I probably wanted to say this from a long time but for some reason couldn't 😆

Please do share your views on this and also sorry if I offended anybody here 😳 That was certainly not my intent. I just wanted to state my views and hear from u guys as well.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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First of all,Welcome back to this forum.U rarely visit this forum, right?
I don't know anything about pre-leap because I have never watched the show nor came to this forum before the leap.

After the leap,Mohit was criticized for looking older than Pallavi and for being bulky but then he did everyone's bolti bandh with his amazing acting.

Anyways, Mohit was never blamed for dip in trps.Ashwaki love tracks were blamed but not Mohit or Somya.

People here have always criticized about less history and overdose of love story in the show. In fact,this is one of the reasons show has failed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree what Subha said.

Not much is known about Ashokas childhood, so cvs added their own things. And as you said, Sid's acting & also other cast's acting kept all the viewers engaged.

All the viewers including me expected true history post leap as that's where mostly historical shows starts showcasing true events. But... in case of CAS ...nothing such happened and the show became more of a c*ap after leap.
That's my opinion as to why people didn't really care about distortions preleap. We all expected Ashokas true journey to start after he grow up.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think more or less we blamed the CVs for showing everything except history from starting to end. Only difference is that before it used to entertain us now it doesn't. At least they pretended it to be a historical show. It had planning and plotting, fight between the brothers for the throne, court drama every week, Chanakya saving Ashok every time from the evils, mind games, politics, even the competitions used to be related to who will be the next Samrat... But did anything like this happened since 4, 5 months ? No. So before we didn't blame because it was still enjoyable now it pisses us off. We had all the things we like. That's not the case anymore.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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No mohit s nt the reason of cas down fall, it's only cvs who wrote their own imaginary stories
Preleap script and characters bulid up was Gud, frankly post leap script wasn't up to Mark it's not mohit fault, so many people r watching for him only, otherwise ee show kab ko bandh ho jati
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I fully agree with you. There was no history in this historical show 😆...What an irony. But the question is then how does it manage to grab audience at the first place. Well preleap story was fully fictional...Starting from Dharma-Bindusar epic non existent love, Helena being the villain, Noor , Ashoka's birth, his upbringing in jungle for 14 years(vanvaas 😆)...But there was an element of interest. The build up which made the story interesting. Another reason could be very limited information about Ashoka's childhood. So we can say audience were fine with "Creative freedom". Also the excellent performers we had in the form of Chanakya, Ashoka Sushim...That might have worked for the show.And the most important thing is the element of romance was missing till the coming of Kaurwaki.

Yes Ahankara was there. She was a fictional character for many and Asandhmitra for many. But the romance element was subtle . Even after KAurwaki entered the show, the teenage love story was limited. Ashoka was not a puppy. He was very well focused on his mission. Yes there was nothing historical, but every element was there in the show. So nobody complained.

After leap, the expectations were risen to greater heights. Because we wanted to see the history which we have read till now. But cv's had other plans. They were totally into romance ignoring every other aspect of Ashoka's life. And the result is out.Its not Mohit's fault. Its the fault of cv's who misunderstood their target audience . Who thought that the audience consists of Teenage boys and girls who would love to see the lovey dovey couple and will forget the real concept.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Subha.

First of all,Welcome back to this forum.U rarely visit this forum, right?

I don't know anything about pre-leap because I have never watched the show nor came to this forum before the leap.

After the leap,Mohit was criticized for looking older than Pallavi and for being bulky but then he did everyone's bolti bandh with his amazing acting.

Anyways, Mohit was never blamed for dip in trps.Ashwaki love tracks were blamed but not Mohit or Somya.

People here have always criticized about less history and overdose of love story in the show. In fact,this is one of the reasons show has failed.


I was watching the show on an on-off basis owing to the inconsistency in the storyline even when the show was at its peak 😆 But I do admit Sid was fab 👏

If Mohit looked older than Pallavi it wasn his fault. The CVs should have taken care of it. Either they should gone in for a younger looking actor or made Pallavi age on screen. Mohit is 30+ and he looks his age and he looked every bit an emperor. As for being bulky I agree he certainly was but from what I heard he was asked to bulk up for the role.

Yep AshWaki track ruined the show but as far as history goes, this show never depicted that and for a large part of it, it was fictionalized. History was less or non existent even when the show was at its peak. The star cast was amazing but CVs made a khachra of it
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ajinkya_parab16

I agree what Subha said.

Not much is known about Ashokas childhood, so cvs added their own things. And as you said, Sid's acting & also other cast's acting kept all the viewers engaged.

All the viewers including me expected true history post leap as that's where mostly historical shows starts showcasing true events. But... in case of CAS ...nothing such happened and the show became more of a c*ap after leap.
That's my opinion as to why people didn't really care about distortions preleap. We all expected Ashokas true journey to start after he grow up.


Of course I agree that we donno the complete facts. But even when we fictionalize we can stick to some of the theories. For one, Asoka wasn exactly his father's fav and he was certainly no heir of his. But here Asoka was his father's ankhon ka taara 😆 But like most of u rightly put across, Sid's acting was engaging. So if we really need to blame the CVs we can rather say we are fed up of the poor storyline rather than blame them for distorting history as even when all of us loved the show, it was not remotely close to historical facts.

The way pre leap ended I hoped this would be a turning point too but alas the CVs ruined it completely for us 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

I think more or less we blamed the CVs for showing everything except history from starting to end. Only difference is that before it used to entertain us now it doesn't. At least they pretended it to be a historical show. It had planning and plotting, fight between the brothers for the throne, court drama every week, Chanakya saving Ashok every time from the evils, mind games, politics, even the competitions used to be related to who will be the next Samrat... But did anything like this happened since 4, 5 months ? No. So before we didn't blame because it was still enjoyable now it pisses us off. We had all the things we like. That's not the case anymore.


Yep! So that only concludes the show failed bcoz it was no longer entertaining and it had little to do with actual history 😊 In that case I wonder why makers wanna do a historical biopic? It would be better of they came up with a completely fictional story. All of us have studied about the Mauryan era in our school and I so wish the CVs hadn mocked our intelligence 🤣
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: swathiinduru

No mohit s nt the reason of cas down fall, it's only cvs who wrote their own imaginary stories

Preleap script and characters bulid up was Gud, frankly post leap script wasn't up to Mark it's not mohit fault, so many people r watching for him only, otherwise ee show kab ko bandh ho jati


Oh yes, even I watched it only for Mohit 😆 Its just that few articles pissed me off where they said Mohit couldn't take Sid's legacy forward. What can Mohit do if makers ruin their own baby (aka show)

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